dat - Posted - 09/14/2012:  15:02:04

compressed backbone joints

DeanT - Posted - 09/14/2012:  15:08:22

I'm thinking about 1/4" is the lack of cartilage in my knees....

dat - Posted - 09/14/2012:  15:13:48

kinda makes running more of a chore than it used to be

DeanT - Posted - 09/14/2012:  16:58:42

The older I get, the more running becomes shuffling. But I've already had two friends die from a heart attack, and family and co-workers die from lung cancer and heart disease. I'm at a point where things go down hill fast if ya don't fight it. So a-shuffeling I will go..... 

OM45GE - Posted - 09/15/2012:  07:42:57

I had a running coach try to show me a different gait that was supposed to spare my knees. But other things hurt even more, so it's a-walking I will go.

DeanT - Posted - 09/15/2012:  08:56:32

I'm toe running now, to save what's left of my knees... the first time I tried it, my calves burned and I couldn't go down steps for a day or two.... but they're getting used to it now, and it's actually working

OM45GE - Posted - 09/15/2012:  14:41:30

How about the arches of your feet? I've heard some guys complain that they hurt toe running.

DeanT - Posted - 09/15/2012:  15:03:39

No trouble at all with my arches. Keep in mind I'm topping out at 4 miles at an 8 minute pace max. Usually slower and sometime just 2 miles. I could see toe running at a faster pace or longer distances would definitely take some work, and trouble if not taking it gradual. So far so good!

OM45GE - Posted - 09/15/2012:  17:28:22

I'm tempted to try it.

DeanT - Posted - 09/15/2012:  19:47:51

Be prepared for some sore calfs for a few days but it does work. BTW, I just got home from toe shuffling 5 miles :)

5steve - Posted - 09/16/2012:  09:40:55

Bicycles are the answer

DeanT - Posted - 09/16/2012:  12:21:32

I wish we lived near some nice bike paths

OM45GE - Posted - 09/16/2012:  17:40:36

I can't ride a bike and walk the dog at the same time. It's walk or run.

DeanT - Posted - 09/16/2012:  18:47:19

I don't think three greyhounds and a bike would mix....

OM45GE - Posted - 09/17/2012:  06:22:28

Toby would stop for a pee or a sniff and I would be on the ground in a flash.

dat - Posted - 09/17/2012:  07:20:52

I walk and ride, neither one as much as I should

OM45GE - Posted - 09/17/2012:  07:53:06

Toby is my excuse, staying healthy is my motivation. We do four to six miles a day year round.

DeanT - Posted - 09/17/2012:  08:06:15

My male greyhound does that to me when we run... if I'm not paying attention, and he decides on a tree temptation he can't resist, we both end up with whiplash

dat - Posted - 09/17/2012:  08:57:48

I walk a lot at work, but the normal walking doesn't do much, I need to get out and do some extra, I'm not in bad shape, just need to be in better shape

OM45GE - Posted - 09/17/2012:  09:53:13

Our next-door neighbor was walking her Golden Retriever. She went left, the dog went right and she ended up with a broken shoulder socket. Toby's don't similar stunts with me but so far I haven't broken anything.

dat - Posted - 09/17/2012:  10:10:03

when I was about 10 or 11, I was holding the leash of my brother in laws bluetick coon hound, that dog caught the smell of something and drug me for a while before I got wise enough to let go

dat - Posted - 09/17/2012:  10:45:48

here is my brother and two kids at his retirement,   he'll start his new job next monday

OM45GE - Posted - 09/17/2012:  11:10:55

About three years ago Toby pulled me just enough that I lost my balance and scraped my knee on the pavement. No big deal except I got a MRSA infection. They about killed me with antibiotics but they were able to kill the infection. They were talking about amputation if it didn't work. I was a nervous puppy for sure.

dat - Posted - 09/17/2012:  12:10:15

the doctor is about to wear me out with the west nile stuff, I've felt good for over a week now but he still wants me to keep going back for more bloodwork and tests.  

DeanT - Posted - 09/17/2012:  12:38:06

hey your pictures didn't work :(

Two summers ago My dogs broke my right pinkey going after a yappy dog that was off leash. The next day I was playing a 4th of July gig with my hand looking like the stay-puff marshmellow man. Man that hurt!

OM45GE - Posted - 09/17/2012:  16:28:45

They didn't work for me either.

DeanT - Posted - 09/17/2012:  16:44:17

Those supersonic infections now adays are really scary...

OM45GE - Posted - 09/18/2012:  04:15:59

It scared the hell out of me for sure. The infectious disease doc wasn't wasting any time either. He was giving the antibiotics 24 hours to show improvement or he wanted to amputate. He said that the joints are a problem because if the infection got into the synovial fluid it would become systemic and could kill in hours.

dat - Posted - 09/18/2012:  06:08:40

anytime they talk about cutting off body parts it's bad, glad the antibiotics worked

DeanT - Posted - 09/18/2012:  07:59:29

we just had a girl in the news who lost both hands and legs.

OM45GE - Posted - 09/18/2012:  09:21:44

I saw that - she had just had a baby right? Now they're talking about a arm transplant.

dat - Posted - 09/18/2012:  09:29:27

Arm transplant?  whew, it's amazing what they can do nowadays

OM45GE - Posted - 09/18/2012:  09:46:28

It sure is amazing.

This is the woman I was talking about:

boston.com/whitecoatnotes/2012...tory.html

OM45GE - Posted - 09/18/2012:  09:49:48

The company I work for makes some amazing, life saving drugs. We also make skin for patients who have been burned aver too much of their bodies to do skin grafts. That's  pretty wild science too.

epicel.com/

DeanT - Posted - 09/18/2012:  10:18:21

Wow. That's not the person in our local news. The story I saw was a young woman that got a cut from zip-lining, that got infected. Sad!

kansascity.com/2012/09/11/3809...ting.html

Edited by - DeanT on 09/18/2012 10:22:31

dat - Posted - 09/18/2012:  13:59:13

I'll try again

dat - Posted - 09/18/2012:  15:23:08

well, that didn't work either

OM45GE - Posted - 09/18/2012:  15:29:31

Houston, we have a problem.

DeanT - Posted - 09/18/2012:  16:47:03

nice little blue squares on my Mac

OM45GE - Posted - 09/19/2012:  03:57:58

I get little squares with red x's on my PC.

dat - Posted - 09/19/2012:  05:37:41

same here red x, they were there when I first put them there, then when I closed it down then came back, they were gone.  kinda like a bigfoot sighting

DeanT - Posted - 09/19/2012:  07:35:03

stupid knee is killing me this morning. How am I ever supposed to run a marathon if my knee hurts after two miles each evening...

dat - Posted - 09/19/2012:  07:48:31

I walked two miles yesterday evening with my bride, not far, but better than sitting on the porch drinking ice tea

DeanT - Posted - 09/19/2012:  08:07:39

My dogs make my runs more interesting than maybe they should be...

OM45GE - Posted - 09/19/2012:  09:24:42

"Interesting" is a good word for it.

DeanT - Posted - 09/19/2012:  10:35:11

especially when there are skunks lurking about...

OM45GE - Posted - 09/19/2012:  11:42:58

Toby usually gives them a wide berth.

dat - Posted - 09/19/2012:  11:54:36

Most dogs will only mess with a skunk once

DeanT - Posted - 09/19/2012:  12:05:58

so far so good... wide open space... golf course.... dogs on leash... skunks wander off