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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Practical use of Music Theory presented in a fun way


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puddinfangers - Posted - 04/12/2018:  22:06:07


Thanks Rick! Didn’t make it through the entire thread, I’ll finish it tomorrow. I like the way you’ve explained it and added the charts!

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/12/2018:  22:08:25


Someone else start a new round of the game, I’ve got to go to bed...

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/13/2018:  06:27:40


Alright, here’s a bluegrass song,

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And hopefully that is a song that doesn’t share the same tune with a billion other songs. Some notes are above and some are below the tonic.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/13/2018:  08:48:49


cool, a bluegrass song...after we guess the song, we can argue if it is really a bluegrass song or not! laugh

Mooooo - Posted - 04/13/2018:  15:24:18


I've been messing with these notes putting different note values to each of them, adding rests...it ain't easy...It's probably really obvious but I am missing it...oh well, let me try some more.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/13/2018:  16:30:20


It’s like a Rubix cube

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/13/2018:  17:38:08


All the Good Times Are Past and Gone

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/13/2018:  18:03:40


Rick, you won. Your prize is the Genie that I won last night!

Mooooo - Posted - 04/13/2018:  18:08:16


Hahahaha....Re-gifter!!!

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/13/2018:  18:36:19


quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

All the Good Times Are Past and Gone






My favorite mando player, sorry Jesse



youtube.com/watch?v=L4EPhsjuUVk

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/13/2018:  20:19:43


What bluegrass song has the complete melody consisting of only 1 3 5 b7 intervals?

Mooooo - Posted - 04/13/2018:  21:06:07


is it the same 1, 3, 5 and b7 for the whole song or do they change relative to chords being played? For instance when they switch from the G chord to the C chord would the notes change from G,B,D and F to C E G and Bb...etc...?


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/13/2018 21:06:36

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/13/2018:  21:32:13


never changes

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/14/2018:  08:57:34


chords are 1 5 b7


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/14/2018 08:57:49

Mooooo - Posted - 04/14/2018:  09:18:02


Little Maggie?


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/14/2018 09:21:19

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/14/2018:  09:46:53


quote:

Originally posted by Mooooo

Little Maggie?






Mike you will be receiving your own personal dram glass with Genie included!



youtube.com/watch?v=mCBRbJVZZzk



banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...p;v=20046

Mooooo - Posted - 04/14/2018:  10:19:36


I guess we can't shake that Genie. I guess that means I can have a dram of Gin with my Djinn.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/14/2018 10:21:08

Mooooo - Posted - 04/14/2018:  10:50:14


OK...the tune I am thinking of is in the key of 2 flats. The theme starts on the 5 note then jumps up to the 1 then walks chromatically from the 2 to the 3, a short rest then back to the 5, then 1 then walks chromatically from the 2 to the #3 and steps down to the flat 3. It plays around with those same notes for a while...but if you know the tune you will have it already. It's great Jazz. And it is how I will drink my prize from the previous name that tune episode.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/14/2018:  11:48:51


All of the the notes of the chromatic 2-flat scale are used in the introduction.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/14/2018:  16:37:43


How Moon the High (aka, How I Mooned the High Sheriff)



at 27:40  youtu.be/_BCiT2KF7xM


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/14/2018 16:41:00

Mooooo - Posted - 04/14/2018:  18:15:28


That's a great guess Chuck, but this tune has no lyrics as far as I know. It is famous as an instrumental and is a 12 bar blues tune.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/14/2018 18:18:14

Mooooo - Posted - 04/15/2018:  09:03:29


It starts out on Piano and is joined by several other instruments...drums, sax, bass.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/15/2018:  09:25:18


It’s on the tip o’ my tongue...I keep playing those notes...sounds familiar,, can’t place it (yet)

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/15/2018:  09:28:49


By Jove!...would it be Blue Monk.. , by Thelonius?

youtu.be/_40V2lcxM7k



and Nedski’s banjer version  ....   shazam.com/track/341294055/blue-monk


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/15/2018 09:32:39

Mooooo - Posted - 04/15/2018:  10:23:55


You are very hot, almost boiling....re-read the last line in the original clue I gave and it should get you there.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/15/2018:  10:28:00


All the chromatic notes of the 2 flat scale? That clue?

Mooooo - Posted - 04/15/2018:  10:30:58


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

All the chromatic notes of the 2 flat scale? That clue?






"And it is how I will drink my prize from the previous name that tune episode"  - this part should tell you what tune it is, but you may have to take a look at my prize to really get it.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/15/2018 10:32:16

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/15/2018:  11:05:01


Straight No Chaser, also by Thelonius

Mooooo - Posted - 04/15/2018:  11:35:39


Congratulations Puddinfangers, you guessed the correct tune!!!!! I am still using the Genie, so your prize is an open tab at the dive bar of your choice.

enjoy Straight No Chaser



Here's the Sheet music if you want to buy it: Straight No Chaser sheet music

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/15/2018:  13:12:46


Thanks Mooooo, but I’m gonna politely decline the prize. I’m a minor, Am in theory terms :)

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/15/2018:  13:15:17


Here’s the next song,

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This might be an easy one.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  10:53:25


This is so easy that I can't even think what it could be. Any hints as to how these melody notes should be played?

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/16/2018:  13:38:50


Hold the second 5, second 1, and the 2 longer than the others.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  15:36:11


I am hearing a lot of different tunes, I will guess Uncloudy Day. If that's not the one you are thinking of don't give it to me, I have a lot more guesses.

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/16/2018:  15:44:05


Nope

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  17:57:40


How about I Saw The Light?

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:04:20


I’ve Laid Around and Played Around

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:39:19


Both are similiar, but both of those are incorrect. I’m beginning to see that lot’s of songs share a similiar melody... Keep guessing the bluegrassy stuff.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:47:10


My next guess is: Mountain Dew




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puddinfangers - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:51:23


Correct! Now if you go find the big hollow tree down the road you can find your prize.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:57:06


I am a major and will politely accept this prize gladly.

puddinfangers - Posted - 04/16/2018:  18:59:08


Enjoy it Mooooo!

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/16/2018:  19:02:11


I think everybody sings this a little different, here's Grandpa Jones 515561333213

youtube.com/watch?v=ryOZ8otRhdg


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/16/2018 19:03:03

Mooooo - Posted - 04/16/2018:  21:01:31


I am having a hard time coming up with a tune and my 2 hour grace period has ended. So anyone who wants to present a tune for us banjo pickers to guess that will hopefully teach us about theory, please feel free. Lately we have been listing some of the notes to a song or tune, but there are many other ways to describe it, feel free to describe it how you want.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/16/2018 21:04:53

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/16/2018:  23:15:53


A hit in the 60's that is 12 Bar Blues, Lydian mode with blue notes added.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/17/2018:  08:57:52


I can't recall any Lydian hits from the '60s....I know of a handful of Mixolydian ones...no Lydians though.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/17/2018:  12:18:56


The Beatles could have heard it on the radio during their first studio recording experience. BTW Mixolydian backup with Lydian melody on top.


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/17/2018 12:27:33

Mooooo - Posted - 04/17/2018:  16:03:56


So a little research shows that in 1961 The Beatles recorded with Tony Sheridan for the first time in Hamburg (my favorite city named after food). Are we in agreement?

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/17/2018:  16:18:38


Carl Perkins’  “Honey Don’t”?


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/17/2018 16:19:19

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/17/2018:  16:50:55


<p><blockquote id="quote">quote: <hr height="1" id="quote" noshade="noshade" /><i>Originally posted by <a href="/myhangout/home.asp?id=113457" ID="newtag-113457">Mooooo</a></i><br /> <p>So a little research shows that in 1961 The Beatles recorded with Tony Sheridan for the first time in Hamburg (my favorite city named after food). Are we in agreement?</p><br />

<hr height="1" id="quote" noshade="noshade" /></blockquote><p></p></p>



 Sorry for the confusion.I'm saying their first parlophone record with love me do etc. Abbey Rd., Studios 1962


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/17/2018 17:00:19

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