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Mooooo - Posted - 04/10/2018:  12:10:26


When I previously said Honey Pie, I meant Wild Honey Pie which over-features the tritone...many of them.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/10/2018:  13:43:08


for the theory lurkers
youtube.com/watch?v=e2r3ZB06mFY



 

Mooooo - Posted - 04/10/2018:  14:14:56


Now I'm confused are we looking for a Beatles song featuring the Diminished Triad or the Tritone interval?

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/10/2018:  14:36:35


That guy plays basicaly the first five notes of the beatle tune during that video

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/10/2018:  18:46:49


Who can solve this MYSTERY?

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  08:55:56


The song title is the name of a street in LA.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  09:22:39


Penny Lane



I see an Eflat over an A note,,n’est-ce pas?


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 09:30:09

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  09:32:28


It's Gotta be Blue Jay Way.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  09:37:16


Huh? Daz in Toronto

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  09:40:53


Daz on Majikul Misstree toor.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:13:26


Wuts rong wit’ Penny Lane...it’s in LA ..,and has da tritone, no?



“We measure distance on the piano in intervals. A tritone is the distance between the root and the #4. So, C to F# is a tritone. Years ago you could get banned from the church for even playing a tritone due to its very “harsh” or dissonant sound. It used to be called the “devil's interval”.”


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 10:16:26

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:15:40


Why R wee talkin' like figmo?

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:17:04


Cuz wee lyk Conn-ek-ti-kutt

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:30:56


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Wuts rong wit’ Penny Lane...it’s in LA ..,and has da tritone, no?



“We measure distance on the piano in intervals. A tritone is the distance between the root and the #4. So, C to F# is a tritone






Where is the tritone in Penny Lane? I don't hear it in Blue Jay Way either. So we are probably both wrong.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 10:31:35

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:36:52


Mike you have just won a trip to Haight Ashberry and like George see the drug attic's and just go home.
By the way the tritone is on the word fog and that interval is used many times in the verse and finally resolves to the natural five just before the chorus

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:43:57


Wait just a minute! An A to an Eflat is a tritone...as evidenced in my post of Penny Lane..if only for an 1/8 th note,,but SO WHAT.  And Penny Lane is in LA.  But I don’t want to visit hate-assbury, thnx anyhoo


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 10:52:20

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  10:56:40


I'll take the win, but I believe for it to be a tritone it should be an interval (2 notes at once a #4 interval) and not just a note that is the #4 of a scale, maybe they can be played in succcession, but probably not with that b3 in between. I could be wrong. I would love to hear what George, Fink, Russ, and the others have to say about it.

I haven't been to Haight-Ashberry in about 3 years or so. I will probably shoot out to Yosemite and do a little hiking like I did last time.



Blue Jay Way


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 10:58:19

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:04:45


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Penny Lane



I see an Eflat over an A note,,n’est-ce pas?




A as a whole note in the left hand of the piano score, Eflat (sharped 4th) in the right hand, at the end of the measure



 


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 11:05:46

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:10:22


notice the multiple F#s over the C tonic and as for PENNY LANE that Eb serves as the 5th of the Ab chord


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/11/2018 11:12:48


chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:14:15


quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

notice the multiple F#s over the C tonic and as for PENNY LANE that Eb serves as the 5th of the Ab chord






Negatory, my Cinci pal...that’s an am7b5


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 11:16:20

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:14:49


I guess you're right, I never noticed that droning C note before. I thought after the intro the organ rested and then aped the melody in unison.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 11:16:04

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:18:14


My theory knowledge is limited compared to the august posters in this april thread, but I was always taught that a tri-tone is 2 notes.

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:20:31


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

quote:

Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

notice the multiple F#s over the C tonic and as for PENNY LANE that Eb serves as the 5th of the Ab chord






Negatory, my Cinci pal...that’s an am7b5






Just because the song you thought of may fit, it's not the one he chose. If he gives it away to any answer that fits, I guess my answer of Wild Honey Pie would have won. Sometimes you have to be a gracious loser.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 11:24:22

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:23:25


quote:

Originally posted by FlyinEagle

My theory knowledge is limited compared to the august posters in this april thread, but I was always taught that a tri-tone is 2 notes.






I'm in the same boat as you are theroy-wise Jeff, as far as I know, I also think it's 2 notes.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:28:03


It is two notes - the “tri” refers to three whole steps, n’est-ce pas?

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:29:20


Quote: “Sometimes you have to be a gracious loser.”

Bah...”nice guys finish last” - Leo “the Lip” Durocher

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:31:39


Yes, I know, but I always thought it was only those 2 notes. A 2 note chord, with a full 3 steps between the 2 notes. That's what I always thought a tri-tone was.

That and a jazz bar on South Street.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:35:49


One note ringing against another ,although not struck simultaneously ($50 word for “at the same time “) , can form the tritone interval, n’est-ce pas ($1 Quebecois phrase)?


Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/11/2018 11:36:48

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:38:46


OK, but I think this is an attack on theory.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:40:05


Tritone kaput...

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:40:27


quote:

Originally posted by FlyinEagle

OK, but I think this is an attack on theory.






Hilarious...you should start a thread see if it goes as long as the attack on Bluegrass thread.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:47:10


quote:

Originally posted by FlyinEagle

OK, but I think this is an attack on theory.






Yep..

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:50:12


quote:

Originally posted by chuckv97

Tritone kaput...






Damn.  When did that happen.  Jeez.



 



Well, Bob and Barbara's is still going strong right across the street.  Thursday night drag shows, and a jazz organ trio called the Crowd Pleasers plays 4 or 5 sets every Friday and Saturday night.  And they offer the true Citywide Special (A can of PBR and a shot of Beam for 5 bucks). Love that place.

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  11:56:32


youtu.be/4N3iVHxP8FQ

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:01:10


What in the devil has got into you guys?

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:03:08


I’m suffering from tritone-itus.... a cousin malady of tinnitus

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:16:44


The tune I am thinking of is a folk song. It is based on the Phrygian Dominant Scale and everyone knows this tune. The Phrygian Dominant Scale is: b2, b6, b7.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:20:23


youtube.com/watch?v=PdJH7Y56c7Y

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:23:39


That was the quickest guessed song yet. Did you know it, figure it out or google it?

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:28:17


Rick, you have won an all expense paid trip to a wedding and a Bar Mitzvah in beautiful downtown Jerusalem!!! Bring your favorite yarmulke and have a blast.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 12:39:30

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:35:43


A Dutchman, a Scot, and an Arab walked into a Bar (Mitzvah)....

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:41:34


quote:

Originally posted by Mooooo

That was the quickest guessed song yet. Did you know it, figure it out or google it?






Heard the intervals in my head and I'll pass to give someone else a chance, maybe a newcomer to this thread or even a "PRO player"wink

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  12:45:15


Sure we will wait the traditional 2 hours and if no one new or PROwink posts, it's anyone's game.


Edited by - Mooooo on 04/11/2018 12:46:22

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  13:09:05


major scale with a b2
youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  13:19:17


They used this 10 hour version one time when the final Jeopardy clue was: "It is the meaning of life"

Mooooo - Posted - 04/11/2018:  15:49:36


Alright, it's been about 3 hours so anyone with a piece of music in mind may present it. Let's see how well you can describe a song so people can figure it out. Good luck.

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  17:30:37


Name a classic rock song that heavily features suspended chords.

The famous intro is a just a rhythmically strummed Bsus4.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  17:40:23


Pinball Wizard

FlyinEagle - Posted - 04/11/2018:  17:47:52


Well that was easy.

You win a trip to the last penny arcade in Asbury Park, NJ.

It's in between the pawn shop and check cashing joint on the boardwalk (near 1st and Ocean).

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 04/11/2018:  18:21:30


youtube.com/watch?v=4AKbUm8GrbM

And a quick how to do it on 5 string


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 04/11/2018 18:22:04


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