Astrobanjo - Posted - 04/10/2019:  14:33:37

Hi Sonny...Long time fan here. I was browsing online banjo videos and I came across this gem. youtube.com/watch?v=LscE2FcQw6s
Don't Let Smokey Mountain Smoke Get in Your Eyes
This along with Banjo Medley, and years of listening banjo, helped inspire me to learn to play myself.
I think this video illustrates the joy of the banjo and bluegrass music in general.
I swear I hear Bobby say "scare-a-kee" because of the video camera..haha, then the Reuben detour...so fun and whimsical.
Thank you, Sir...You help make the world a brighter place.

jaderhold - Posted - 04/10/2019:  16:05:52

Sonny, The Osborne Bros. and The Glaser Bros. were the only two groups I remember playing that night. Of course my memory may not be clear on that. It was a Friday or Saturday night show that probably started around 8:00. I can’t be 100%, but I believe Dale was on guitar and probably Ronnie Blackwell was playing bass. It was a fantastic show. I would like to be able to turn the clock back and go to it again!

Astrobanjo - Posted - 04/11/2019:  16:05:15

WOW...you were there!?....that's so amazing and inspiring, I wish I could join you on your memory time machine detour

Edited by - Astrobanjo on 04/11/2019 16:06:46

miket - Posted - 04/11/2019:  16:36:46

I just have to pop out of the quiet corner to say how much I'm loving this long-lived conversation. My first "real" banjo was 206MP6E and while I've bought a couple of other great and unique instruments over the years I still play my Chief with joy almost every night. Thanks, Mr. Osborne, for hanging out with us and sharing your thoughts.

TheChief - Posted - 04/12/2019:  11:35:56

Hey Mike, pop out anytime you have the urge.  Only thing, next time and all after that you don't need to bring that Mister stuff with you.  We're all kinda on a first name basis here.

Mr. Osborne was my Dad....someone once said!

So, you still have the engraved Chief I understand. Greg Rich did the engraving on those banjos. Originally there were 23 of them.

Incidentally, that was Greg's idea. If believe he said anyone who bought a new Chief between a certain amount of time...maybe a month...he would engrave it free. They are beautiful, aren't they...In your case, I guess I should have said IT is beautiful...right? Thank you Mike. Join in anytime.

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TheChief - Posted - 04/12/2019:  11:41:41

Astrobanjo...you're a kind man to say such good things. Especially in this time of so much chaos in our world. 

Thank you. I appreciate it more than you know.

s

leeave96 - Posted - 04/12/2019:  11:45:21

Sonny - are these Chief banjos still available?

TheChief - Posted - 04/12/2019:  11:51:13

Joel Aderhold, you're a good friend. You know what. The Wilburn Brothers and Ray Price and The Cherokee Cowboys were actually on that show.  The Glasers and Osbornes were there too. The late Dale Sledd and Ronnie Blackwell were our band. Both are gone now, you know?

I seem to also remember you coming to our show in the 60's I believe. We talked and I don't remember the place. Can't outrun Mother Nature and Father Time.

s

Edited by - TheChief on 04/12/2019 11:53:48

chuckv97 - Posted - 04/12/2019:  11:59:04

Sonny, your memory is awesome, to remember all the different happenings in the past,, esp. with all the people you’ve met over the years. I was amazed you remembered the Vancouver gig in ~1979 , that you fellas went for Chinese food before the show. With a memory like that, it must have helped you play the music. I read where you once thought out what you were going to play on “Up This Hill and Down” while driving to the studio.

TheChief - Posted - 04/12/2019:  12:05:38

Hey Leeave96...

The Chief is still available....Maple, Mahogany, or Walnut. Blaylock tone ring, Hard Maple rim, Frank Neat neck, Rick Neat inlay. Frank and Ricky set up and assembly. Your choice inlay pattern. Wreath, Flying Eagle, or Hearts and Flowers. Gold or Nickel hardware. 

My Email address is;Chiefbanjo@comcast .net

Be happy for you to have one, or two!

s

TheChief - Posted - 04/12/2019:  12:17:47

Chuck, I think I told you that was my first Chinese Food. 

Up This Hill and Down, Blue Moon of Kentucky, Tennessee Hound Dog...On the way from Hendersonville to Mt. Juliet...by way of Gallatin! 

Thankfully, I am blessed with a good long term memory. It did have an effect on my banjo playing at the time. Some other things I'm rather lax on, but I don't forget them...!!!!!

s

mahogchief01 - Posted - 04/13/2019:  15:16:34

I haven't posted on here in quite a while, so I thought I would give an update on my Chief banjo. I picked mine up from Sonny in October of 2003. My how time has passed. Mine is the first mahogany banjo that he had made. I have played this banjo alot over the years. It is my primary banjo. It has settled in so well over the years. I would put it up against most prewar banjos out there. If anyone is "on the fence" about getting a Chief, get off the fence and get one while you still can. Frank and Ricky Neat do a great job making banjos and their setup is as good as anyone. These banjos are the best being produced and the price can't be beat for what you get.


Keep up the great work Sonny!

Mickey Flatt

TheChief - Posted - 04/14/2019:  16:12:54

Well, thank you Mickey for the unsolicited advertisement.

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jaderhold - Posted - 04/14/2019:  18:48:51

Thanks Sonny, I had heard of Dale Sledd’s passing, but not Ronnie Blackwell. As has been discussed previously Dale was a great rhythm player, parts singer, and lead singer when called on. And Ronnie did a fine job on the bass.

On the old MGM recordings, there was a tic tac Johnny Cash rhythm going on, particularly noticeable on tracks like Each Season Changes You, (One of my favorites of all your records).
Was that an electric guitar? Was it recorded live with the singing or dubbed in later? Thanks

bcampbe5 - Posted - 04/15/2019:  09:57:34

I echo your comments Micky.  I have Mahogany number 3 and it just keeps getting better and better.  I recently put a new head on mine; the original had finally given up the ghost as it split.  I cannot say enough good things about these banjos.  My only hope is to one day be able to add a maple version, simply out of want of course, not need.   Yes, they are indeed THAT good and a great value as you've mentioned.

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Originally posted by mahogchief01

I haven't posted on here in quite a while, so I thought I would give an update on my Chief banjo. I picked mine up from Sonny in October of 2003. My how time has passed. Mine is the first mahogany banjo that he had made. I have played this banjo alot over the years. It is my primary banjo. It has settled in so well over the years. I would put it up against most prewar banjos out there. If anyone is "on the fence" about getting a Chief, get off the fence and get one while you still can. Frank and Ricky Neat do a great job making banjos and their setup is as good as anyone. These banjos are the best being produced and the price can't be beat for what you get.





Keep up the great work Sonny!



Mickey Flatt

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Lost 54 - Posted - 04/15/2019:  14:51:05

I have owned many banjos ,so I am very familiar with most of the various brands .I only have one banjo now ,a maple 2005 Osborne chief .without doubt ,the only banjo I will ever need ,and by far the easiest playing and best sounding banjo I have ever owned .those who have played it ,have wanted to buy it .thanks sonny

TheChief - Posted - 04/21/2019:  10:28:34

Thank you guys.

The Chief is a good banjo. All American I might add.

s 

From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 05/08/2019:  10:05:07

Sonny,
I don't know if you want to get into this or not, but do you have any tone ring that you prefer over all others? Hope your summer is starting great.
ken

chuckv97 - Posted - 05/08/2019:  13:05:23

Hi Sonny,, some nostalgia on my part here - I bought your Mel Bay instruction book in the late ‘60’s, even before Earl’s. I lost the original over the years, so bought the new “refurbished” model a few years ago.  Red Wing is one I tried & helped get me going on the banjo. It’s played often at local jams around here, - I always think of your book when we play it. Who on the recording played double banjo with you? And then the second break you went on your own, doing that “Osborne roll” on part of it. (I bought it from iTunes). Love it!

Edited by - chuckv97 on 05/08/2019 13:07:25

jrimes - Posted - 05/09/2019:  06:15:00

Hey Sonny,
I just finished reading the "Dixie Dewdrop" the Uncle Dave Macon story. It was hard to put down. What an extraordinary man! Did you ever meet him? Or did you ever meet any of the Opry old timers such as the Crook Brothers, DeFord Bailey, or Sam and Kirk McGee? If so, what were they like?
Many thanks as always!!
Josh

TheChief - Posted - 05/14/2019:  11:25:54

Chuck in Alberta;

Benny Birchfield played the lead banjo and I played harmony on the MGM recording of Red Wing. Great tune to play, if you play it right. It's a bit harder than it seems. Tricky.  Played in G, the part that goes to C is: Middle, Index, Thumb, Middle, Thumb. Noted....1st on 2, 2nd on 1, 3rd o, 1st on 2, 5th o. 

s

TheChief - Posted - 05/14/2019:  11:49:37

Ken;

I'm not sure I have a favorite tone ring. I always thought the gold plated ring tended to soften the tone and produce the best sustain, which goes with what I did. But I have seen and heard banjos that had very little the way of a tone ring and they still sound good.  So, a favorite for me would have to be an old, flat, gold plated Gibson ring from about 1934. but then......? Do you prefer one over another?

The ring I'm using in the Chief banjo was a design from Bill Blaylock and me and they sound pretty good. Frank Neat has his own design and they sound pretty good too....I'm truly of the belief that there about 20+- parts that must be just right for a banjo to sound really at it's very best. And Mr. Neat is just about the best at doing a set up of that nature too. I've seen him do wonders.

s

TheChief - Posted - 05/14/2019:  12:18:28

Josh:

I didn't get to meet Dave Macon, I came a year too late. I did see him perform several times however. Extraordinary might be a watered down version of Dave, so let's just say he was interesting. He did not like competition. Earl told me quite a lot about him. Earl said Dave always called him Ernest! And he told Bill that Earl could "play the banjo pretty good but he sure was not funny!"

I did know the old guys...remember I was a 14 year old kid playing with Monroe but they treated me like an equal. They had a specific dressing room at the old Ryman and when we were in town, which in those days was every Saturday, I would go and hang out with them.  Incidentally, two others treated me as a human at that time. George Morgan and Jack Anglin...and Hank Williams SR. talked to me some.

I knew Sam and Kirk McGee, the Boys From Sunny Tennessee, The Fruit Jar Drinkers, The Possum Hunters, lazy Jim Day, Rod Brassfield, Minnie Pearl, and others. Man....Ernest Tubb, Roy Acuff, Red Foley, Marty Robins, Ray Price, Eddie Arnold, Grant Turner, Dee Kilpatrick, Jim Denny....The Grand Ole Opry was THE DEAL then. I felt it an honor to just walk BY the Ryman, and then be able to walk in the building...much less to go out on the stage and play my banjo.

THAT WAS THE HONOR

s

Edited by - TheChief on 05/14/2019 12:21:29

chuckv97 - Posted - 05/14/2019:  15:09:24

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Originally posted by TheChief

Chuck in Alberta;

Benny Birchfield played the lead banjo and I played harmony on the MGM recording of Red Wing. Great tune to play, if you play it right. It's a bit harder than it seems. Tricky.  Played in G, the part that goes to C is: Middle, Index, Thumb, Middle, Thumb. Noted....1st on 2, 2nd on 1, 3rd o, 1st on 2, 5th o. 

s

 

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Thanks, Sonny.  I’m amazed again by your memory.  That C-section (!) had me twisted up for a while when I learned it. 

jrimes - Posted - 05/15/2019:  06:07:18

Sonny, I always appreciate you answering my crazy questions. What you've seen and done is quite legendary! I'm sure your book too, would be one that I would have a hard time putting down.
Josh

Gary r voigt - Posted - 05/25/2019:  22:48:08

thanks sonny for the 2011 Osborne chief... I just bought it today from a friend of yours and frank, his name is Harlan and was a neighbor of frank before he moved to mn. where I live also... again thanks for the great banjo... I would like to possibly order a new custom one for me in the next year... there on a waiting list I,am sure of that... maple with a speed neck in flying eagles inlay and I think they call it shelled maple on the back of the resonator like the one frank made for Harlan in 2015 or so... ballpark price would be???

thanks,
Gary

From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 06/02/2019:  12:00:17

Sonny,
Would you care to comment on what your thoughts and experiences are with straight grain maple necks?
Hope you are having a great summer.
Thanks,
Ken

TheChief - Posted - 06/07/2019:  11:15:23

Ken...I don't know that I ever had anything with straight grain Maple. Everything I've had any experience with has been of the Curly Maple. I can't honestly say that I've seen one. I wonder if it warps and twists like the Curly Maple will do if the neck gets too small. I know they are bad for that. The early Granada banjos came with a large neck to guard against that. Earl attempted to shave his original down because he had small hands and it was just uncomfortable. It warped. Lester told me he cut it down with a wood rasp. How bout that?

Tell me more about the straight grain Maple.

s

From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 06/07/2019:  13:14:52

Sonny, Kevin Hendrix is having a straight grain maple neck banjo made for him. He has been partial to the sound of Curtis McPeak's Old Betsy banjo which was also a straight grain maple. From what I understand, Gibson was going to make some copies of Old Betsy and had made a few prototypes with the straight grain maple. However they never put it into production. As a hobby project, I was toying with the idea of trying to put a parts banjo together (you can never go wrong with bringing a new banjo into this world right?) and was toying with the idea of doing a straight grain maple. From what I have heard people say, the straight grain sounds like more bite/crack. Others have told me that the sound you get from straight or curly maple just depends upon the individual piece of wood you use. Soooo, with the ear and experience you have, I was just trying to see if you had any thoughts about it.

And I guess I have to say, that I have never heard anyone talking about Earl being that "raspy" of a guy. (sorry, bad pun - )

Thanks for your answer.

ken

Edited by - From Greylock to Bean Blossom on 06/07/2019 13:16:32

HSmith - Posted - 06/08/2019:  00:15:09

Ken

I was interested to read your post about Curtis McPeake's 'Ole Betsy'. A Hangout member here in the UK is selling a Gibson-made 'Ole Betsy' re-creation. Here's the ad banjohangout.org/classified/68698
I have no connection with the seller other than that I bought a Nechville Meteor from him a few years ago, That was a great purchase and a good experience. I'm sure he would be happy to answer any questions you may have about the banjo he's selling.

Regards
Harry

TheChief - Posted - 06/09/2019:  08:46:58

I don't have any experience with straight grain maple.
Question would be....by having a neck made of this cause your banjo to sound like Curtis? His banjo is what, 85 years old?
s

markbyrum - Posted - 06/09/2019:  15:01:14

Sonny, I had Steve Huber build me a Banjo about 9 years ago and I supplied him with old barn wood straight grain maple. So the remainder of the Banjo was new wood and the neck was old, straight grain maple. From the start those who played it said it sounded different from his other banjos. I can only ascribe it to the neck wood - straight-grain maple but also very old. I think the age of the wood has more impact than the grain. IMHO. BTW: the irregularities in the neck close up are worm holes - maybe that makes the difference! ;-) 

Edited by - markbyrum on 06/09/2019 15:03:27

Huber Shelor Custom neck - closeup

Huber Shelor Custom - front

Huber Shelor Custom - back

 

pick1936 - Posted - 06/10/2019:  00:10:45

Hi Sonny, I see above where You talked with Jack Anglin, I liked His singing, good range of voice. It's pretty ironic that He was killed in car wreck on the way to Patsy Clines Funeral. Did You ever talk to Patsy? And do You think Huber makes as good a neck as Neat?

TheChief - Posted - 06/10/2019:  08:32:46

Hey Lee, good to hear from you.

When I came to Nashville at 14 years old, two people on the The Real Grand Ole Opry treated me like a human being...Jack Anglin and George Morgan. Jack didn't live long enough for me to be well acquainted with him as an adult, sadly...but George and I became close friends.

I was on a friendly basis with Patsy's husband..Charlie Dick...but The closest I ever came to talking to Patsy was as she was recording Faded Love. We waited until she finished so we could get into the studio...I believe that would be The Quanset Hut...do our session. 

I'm sure others are building good necks. Huber, Stelling, Robin Smith...but Frank Neat is the best in my opinion..maybe because he has built hundreds for me. Each Chief banjo has a Frank Neat neck and never a flaw, and they always fit perfectly so I gotta go with Mr. Neat.

s 

TheChief - Posted - 06/10/2019:  08:40:20

Mark...that's a good looking five....I see you have the neck finish taken off...I had been doing that since the 70's and it sure makes a big difference in playability. Do you still have that banjo? Wonder how it would have sounded like if you had the rim made from the old wood? 

Good pictures, thanks.

s

markbyrum - Posted - 06/10/2019:  09:59:53

Thanks, Sonny. It's a great banjo and I like it. An old wood neck AND rim was the original plan. Great minds think alike! I supplied the old neck wood AND old maple flooring sourced from a Reclaimed flooring company in Virginia - enough for 4 rims. But Steve's rim builder was unable to bend it without breaking it, so we went with the standard Huber rim (pre-Truetone days). So I have a modern wood rim and old wood neck. Sounds great. And you know Earl's Granada was less than 20 years old when he recorded the Country Music album. Aren't your early Chief's getting up there in years? They're sounding better all the time!

TheChief - Posted - 06/14/2019:  10:15:19

The first Chief banjo got to me June 16, 1998. so, YES...IT'S 21 YEARS OLD.
That would be number 00...or "snake eyes"
s

TheChief - Posted - 06/14/2019:  10:28:53

"Bluegrass Today" is running a series of articles called: "Ask Sonny Anything" and if you're interested in that sort of thing..you may wish to participate.

Just a word to clarify something that surfaced. 

I read only this part of Banjo Hangout. Sometimes people send an email and refer to something someone has said concerning me, something I might have said, my opinion of another person or banjo, or the Chief banjo. Most time I don't have a clue as to what is going on out side this page and you good folks.

That's all.

s

deestexas - Posted - 06/14/2019:  10:37:24

Dr. O:

I remember a very hot August afternoon in Hugo, OK about 40 years ago. It was around 100 and Bobby had a towel around his neck to absorb the sweat. Then, to top things off, the band on stage before you had played a number of Osborne Brothers songs. You were hot and not just because of the temperature. I recall your discourse about there being "no need to the Osborne Brothers since our music has already been played. I will not mention the other band, but I expect you remember them.

chuckv97 - Posted - 06/14/2019:  10:55:03

Mr. Sonny,, your reply in your Bluegrass Today column about the vasectomy was hilarious.... !

Gary Griffin - Posted - 06/21/2019:  09:58:22

Hi Chief! Are we getting any closer to the Book? We all sure hope so! Have a great Weekend!

TheChief - Posted - 06/23/2019:  07:35:22

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT HEARD THE BAND, "MERLE MONROE" YOU SHOULD. THEY'RE GOOD. OUR OLD FRIENDS DAN'L GRINDSTAFF AND TIM RABON ARE BETTER THAN GOOD.  IT'S TITLED "BACK TO THE COUNTRY."

S

TheChief - Posted - 06/23/2019:  07:47:03

Dees, I remember that well. I think the group you are talking about was a  motorcycle gang. 

You know, that happened often with them and a few more. I never understood what the point of that action was. They seemed to think it was funny somehow. Weird...but, the world goes on turning! 

The good part of all that, and I told our guys and Bobby...when we go home, the next day we go to the bank...when they go home...that's what they do...go home!

if we did a Stanley Bros. song I always asked Ralph for permission...We did Rank Strangers a lot, but if he was there I always asked.

s 

TheChief - Posted - 06/23/2019:  08:00:22

The subject of the book has come up. This is all the info I have. Beginning till now.

Scott Street had the idea and did a tremendous amount of legwork doing interviews etc. Before he could finish  it he passed away, Bill Evans agreed to finish it. His wife was diagnosed with leukemia and this pretty much filled up Bill's plate, so then Daniel Mullins agreed to do it...and that's where it is now. I haven't heard anything concerning the book in quite a while...so I think it might be a dead issue. Seems as though it's had a dark cloud around it from the beginning...so, maybe it's best. That's absolutely OK with me. When Scott asked my permission to do it, I was 50-50...so maybe it IS best.

s 

TheChief - Posted - 06/23/2019:  08:11:02

THE BLUEGRASS TODAY, "ASK SONNY ANYTHING" HAS BEEN ACCEPTED REALLY WELL, I'M TOLD BY TERRY HERD. PLEASES ME GREATLY. I LOVE DOING IT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CONSTRAINTS SO FAR AS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ARE CONCERNED.  THEY SEND ME THE QUESTIONS AND I ANSWER THEM...AND THEY PRINT MY ANSWERS...NO QUESTIONS ASKED, NO EYEBROWS RAISED, NO ROLLED EYES....CASE CLOSED! 

JOIN IN!

S

Beardog - Posted - 06/23/2019:  11:24:42

I am going to chime in here with my own "Sonny Osborne story". 

I don't know if Sonny will remember it, or not. I am sure it is just a boring, mediocre tale, anyway. But here goes....

When I first got into the banjo and bluegrass, about 10-11 years ago, I went to the IBMA World of Bluegrass. Back then, it was still in Nashville. I was there by myself, and I was a TOTALLY green newbie to all things banjo and bluegrass. I only knew that I loved it. I stopped in to eat lunch at the Subway sandwich shop there in the convention center. There were very few tables available. A gentleman asked a few minutes later if he could share my table. It was Sonny. I was such a newbie, I had no idea who he was. 

After eating our sandwiches, he ended up headed the same way as me (big surprise, in retrospect!), so we ended up at  record table in the main showroom. He invited me to sit with him, and started showing me his banjos. If I recall correctly, he had 3 Chiefs there. He had them under the table,  but wasn't making an issue out of them, at all. Of course, it didn't take me too long to put 2 and 2 together, and figure out who he was. LOL! 

I spent a great deal of time sitting next to him and picking around on the banjos over the next few days. I got to meet lots of real nice folks who would come by to say hello to Sonny.  

On Sunday morning, just before I left to drive back home, I talked to my wife on the phone. I told her my story. She said,  "why don't you buy just one those Chief banjos, you know that you want one".  So, I called Sonny and told him that I wanted one. He said "you rascal!" (or something along that line!). "You have waited until the very last day, after I left to come home, and the banjos are all with me". Naturally, I felt really bad! But then he said,  "I will deliver you the banjo, for a fee". I tentatively said "great, how much do I owe you?". He replied,  "a Starbucks coffee for both me and my wife. She is coming with me!". He asked me which one I wanted. I told him whichever one he thought was the best out them.

And that is how I got my maple Chief banjo!

rbfour5 - Posted - 06/23/2019:  11:39:54

@beardog.  That is a great story, and a memorable one at that! And I’ll bet you still own that maple Cheif banjo!

ManjoMan - Posted - 06/24/2019:  03:20:37

Sonny,

I am wondering if you know where each and everyone of the Chief banjo's are living? I know there are so many out there and it may be hard to keep track, but I am thinking that those who do acquire one eventually get around to telling you about it. I would love to know where #33 ended up.

TheChief - Posted - 06/24/2019:  13:19:32

Jeff...I can tell you where each one went when it left here originally. They became like children to me. I set every one up and made sure everything was right. Delivered some, packed and shipped the rest. George Gruhn sold a few so I didn't do everything on those.

I can tell you where #33 went originally and to whom it was sold...and the date it left me.

11-16-2000...Number 33 went to Jeff Tuttle....wait a minute here...that's you ain't it Jeff...why sure. 

A little trivia...Rocky Top, perhaps the top selling Bluegrass song of all time, was recorded at Bradley's Barn Studio on that date in 1967. 'twas the first recording of that song. Recorded by The Osborne Brothers and since has been recorded over 100 times by different artists.

s