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Feb 29, 2008 - 2:47:50 AM

beegee

USA

23121 posts since 7/6/2005

I still don't get the chart. Whether I play "Welcome to NY" or "Blue Moon of Ky", I don't think of the progression. I couldn't tell you what group it belongs to, but I know the tune.

quote:
For example, if someone calls for a song called "Before I Met You" ... I know immediately from practices I have done how the chord progression goes.


I know immediately how "Before I Met You" goes, because I know the tune and I 've never seen a chart. How difficult can it be?

But hey, we all have different learning styles.If it works for you, YAY! I still don't see the advantage.

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turtle on a fencepost....

Feb 29, 2008 - 4:47:52 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by beegee

.........................................hey, we all have different learning styles.If it works for you, YAY! .........................



Wow! I couldn't have said it better. You and I are in total agreement on this idea. There are dozens and dozens of songs on this 'chart' where I no longer have to think about the chord progressions any longer......the chord progression is just automatic for me and the fun of doing the backup is greater. But the chart and practice is the method I used to get to that point and I continue to use that method of learning. As a side note, I have also been in several jam sessions where I have been able to explain chord progressions to other players (beginners and intermediate) simply because I have worked on the detail from these charts. I can easily see where advanced players would be quite bored with a chart like this.

Thanks,

Phil
Katy, TX

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Feb 29, 2008 - 9:09:17 AM

2057 posts since 11/24/2003

A good friend of mine who has been playing and singing bluegrass for many years knows the words to about 200 songs. He can't understand why someone would need to read them to sing. He just has to accept it.

Mar 4, 2008 - 3:25:20 PM

rwkuta

USA

1735 posts since 7/9/2005

I read thru this whole 5 page thread and maybe I did'nt pay enough attention but ...................I never found out who won?

Molly?

Tenbrooks?

my money has always been on Tenbrooks since the end of the song quotes this verse.

.."we're going to bury Ol' Molly in a coffin ready made"


"Obsession is a great subsitute for talent" Steve Martin
nowhereradio.com/artists/album...3&alid=-1

Mar 4, 2008 - 3:44 PM
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gDGBD

USA

513 posts since 2/7/2005

quote:
Originally posted by rwkuta
my money has always been on Tenbrooks since the end of the song quotes this verse.

.."we're going to bury Ol' Molly in a coffin ready made"


There's also the line, "Out in California where Molly done as she please/
Come back to old Kentucky, got beat with all ease."

Mar 4, 2008 - 4:15:51 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

Well, on the chord chart.....that is the first post of this thread that I edit from time to time.... I tried to underline and boldface the winner as I understand it to be: Tenbrooks. I read somewhere that this song was based on a real true live horserace. I think the article said it was a long, long race ...4 miles or so...do they still have races that long for horses? Sadly, I think ole Molly died. I do not know how much of this story is true. Maybe someone can enlighten us on that.

Phil
Katy, Tx

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Mar 4, 2008 - 4:26:07 PM

rwkuta

USA

1735 posts since 7/9/2005

Im sorry Kemosabe................you are right. Paying attention is a skill I have yet to master. And gDGBD.......I remembered the line you reference but I'm not sure it realtes to the race between Molly & Tenbrooks.

"Obsession is a great subsitute for talent" Steve Martin
nowhereradio.com/artists/album...3&alid=-1

Mar 4, 2008 - 9:23:22 PM

2057 posts since 11/24/2003

They were supposed to have 3 races. Molly got hurt in the first one and had to forfeit. Some think the race was fixed hence the line "coffin ready made". The race was such a big deal congress shut down for the day.

Mar 21, 2008 - 10:22:39 PM

Bizdoc

USA

556 posts since 12/29/2007

as a newb I am playing the C, G, and D7 cords. But I see in the list the D cord is prevelant. upon looking up the D cord I find it can be played either as a 4 finger cord or as a partial D with two fingers, is either correct to use or is the full D the correct manner to play these progressions.

Mar 23, 2008 - 8:22:46 AM

beegee

USA

23121 posts since 7/6/2005

Many times you can get away with using only a couple of notes of any chord. So, use whatever chord form or inversion that work for you. There is no "correct" manner other than what you can do to get the job done.

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turtle on a fencepost....

Mar 23, 2008 - 8:43:43 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by beegee

Many times you can get away with using only a couple of notes of any chord. So, use whatever chord form or inversion that work for you. There is no "correct" manner other than what you can do to get the job done.

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turtle on a fencepost....



Beegee,

That is a great idea. I like practicing these chord progressions using full shape chords and three finger chords - and I will start experimenting with using just two notes of the chords from time to time. 'Two notes of the chords' opens up new ideas for learning more about the fret board and new ideas for some good sounds from the banjo! That is a great contribution to this thread.

Thanks for that idea!

Phil

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 5, 2008 - 3:29:53 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

I have been asked how a person can save the "Chord Progressions" on to their computer.... I am not a techie but I will tell you how I save the file (first post in this thread)... I just do a "copy" of that page ...it is quite large but it copies very well with my cursor....and then just 'paste' that to an email and email it to myself. I do this from time to time because there are updates from time to time on the "Chord Progressions" thread (page one). I also do one more copy of the page and paste it to my Excel files...then print the file ..it is about 5 pages long... and put those pages in the front of my song book. That printout is not for flipping through at jams.....there is not enough time for that foolishness at a jam....those pages in the front of my song book are for my review here at home when I have time to just do some fun review / practice. I hope this makes sense. BTW...I am sure other folks probably know better ways to copy / paste / save / or not /...but it works for me.

Phil
Katy, Tx

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 7, 2008 - 4:50:54 AM

1403 posts since 6/13/2003

Very interesting reading. Thanks Kemo Sabe.

Apr 7, 2008 - 9:10:54 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by sundance

Very interesting reading. Thanks Kemo Sabe.









You are welcome Sundance. One more thing about the 'copy' and 'paste' that I do - the links do come with the copy on both the email and the Excel spreadsheet. I found myself using those links in the last couple of days (with the email paste) because I was unable to get to the BHO....was Eric doing some upgrades?

Phil
Katy, Tx

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 17, 2008 - 4:52:53 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003


youtube.com/watch?v=ve6PjEKFPd...e=related

That is some incredible harmony from the Louvin Brothers in their song "Kentucky". To me , it sounds like two chords (Key of A: A & E). Does anybody have other ideas on the chord progression?

Thanks,

Phil
Katy, Tx


"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 17, 2008 - 12:37:24 PM

1373 posts since 6/18/2003

Happy Birthday to this forum thread, it turns one year old today!

-Ryan.

Apr 17, 2008 - 1:23:25 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by RyanHerr

Happy Birthday to this forum thread, it turns one year old today!

-Ryan.





Ryan,

Thank you for that comment! It has been a blast and I am honored you posted your thought. I hope this thread is useful to folks learning about chord progressions and maybe in some other useful areas.

Thanks,
Phil
Katy, Tx

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 20, 2008 - 7:29 PM

7053 posts since 1/3/2007

I think that it's great that this thread is still going. And what a huge resource the list has become!!

And yes, Tenbrooks (Tenbroeck in real life) won the race. I've always thought they should make a movie out of it -- if folks loved little Seabiscuit, they would really embrace Tenbrooks.

Diva

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“With a little training, he’d make a good idiot.” -- Cousin Jake

Edited by - BanjoDiva on 04/20/2008 19:29:49

Apr 21, 2008 - 8:19:48 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoDiva

I think that it's great that this thread is still going. And what a huge resource the list has become!!

And yes, Tenbrooks (Tenbroeck in real life) won the race. I've always thought they should make a movie out of it -- if folks loved little Seabiscuit, they would really embrace Tenbrooks.

Diva

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“With a little training, he’d make a good idiot.” -- Cousin Jake



Diva,

That sounds like a great movie idea. Thanks for the 'Tenbroeck' information - that is interesting. Also, thanks for the comments regarding this thread.

Phil


"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Apr 30, 2008 - 1:15:54 PM

3526 posts since 5/6/2004

Kemo, I've been listening the Ricky Skaggs' new Bill Monroe tribute CD. I think you can beef up your Group C with the song "Toy Heart." At least that's the way it sounds to me.

Apr 30, 2008 - 1:25:59 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Rich Weill

Kemo, I've been listening the Ricky Skaggs' new Bill Monroe tribute CD. I think you can beef up your Group C with the song "Toy Heart." At least that's the way it sounds to me.





Rich - thanks for that info - I will definitely look that song up.

Thanks,

Phil

"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

May 4, 2008 - 1:49:55 AM

SandyR

USA

2173 posts since 10/23/2007

"My Little Home in Tennessee" is an old Carson J. Robison song that was recorded in 1953 by Mac Wiseman and is rather uncommon in bluegrass repertoire (for no good reason). The verse has a 2-minor chord between the IV and V chords.

Edited by - SandyR on 05/04/2008 01:57:29

May 4, 2008 - 6:30:39 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Sandy Rothman

"My Little Home in Tennessee" is an old Carson J. Robison song that was recorded in 1953 by Mac Wiseman and is rather uncommon in bluegrass repertoire (for no good reason). The verse has a 2-minor chord between the IV and V chords.





Sandy - that is a nice song and I agree - it is uncommon in jams in my area. We had some nice comments about that song from Rich (from Pleasanton, Ca a while back - see his post on this thread on 4/30/07). After his suggestion I added the song to Group D: Generally the chord progressions on that group are I IV V I....... the version I have of that song is what I listed in number 5 in Group D. The version I have of 'My Little Home In Tennessee' has the song with several verses and three choruses... The lyrics in each chorus are different except basically for the last line of each chorus. The chorus is where I have a ii7 chord.... this may differ from what you have.

It is a nice song and I appreciate your comment.

Phil
Katy, Tx



"Banjo isn't that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

Jun 5, 2008 - 4:26:58 PM

522 posts since 11/14/2005

This thread started out about "Highway of Regret" written by the late Don "Chubby" Anthony. He was the fiddler for the Stanleys on the Jim Walter shows and many others but the Jim Walter might be the most commonly known.
I was lucky enough to know Chubby for many years before his death and was able to acquire his 30's style 11 prior to his death. He was a master musician who not only played fiddle but was as good on the banjo, guitar, piano, and many other instruments as anyone you have ever heard.
Chubby taught me some very important and common Scruggs licks on the banjo and for that I am eternally grateful.
Red and Murphy and Company (Murphy Method) did a fine version of this tune on one of their records and I was fortunate to hear Chubby do this song many times live (even at my folks house when I was growing up).
Check out the banjo I am playing in my phote - it is Chubby's old banjo which i have had and played furiously since 1978 - it is as good as any original prewar Gibson I have ever heard and smokes anything made in the last several decades. (sorry Steve Huber)

It''s great to be a Florida Gator!

Jun 5, 2008 - 5:48:11 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

Richard,

Thanks for the history about "Highway Of Regret" - that is a wonderful song and one of my favorites - I wish it were played more at jams I go to - I am making it a goal to introduce it soon to jams I attend here in my area. Chubby definitely wrote a great song. Also, thanks for the comments about the Henry's - I love Murphy's teaching and she has a wonderfully talented musical family. I appreciate hearing from you about the history of the song, the banjo you play and your musical experience,

Thanks,

Phil
Katy, Tx

"Banjo isn''t that hard - just requires a lot of time and focused concentration, practicing rightly and with intent rather than noodling. Keep at it." (Ron Block)

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey" [Chris Quinn]

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