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Mar 10, 2009 - 8:28:19 AM

KI4PRK

USA

1705 posts since 7/14/2008

Just a note on Salt Creek: It is often played the way Phil posted, but sometimes (especially among the old guys) during the first part the second G chord is deleted, so the progression for the first part goes like this:

A...D...G...E...A...D...E...A

73, Brennen

Mar 10, 2009 - 10:11:54 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

Brennen,

Thanks for the info on a variation to playing 'Salt Creek'. I am kind of new at all this stuff...I used to think 'Salt Creek' must have at least a billion chords...it is incredible to see just how easy the progression really goes.

Last Friday evening at the Argyle, Tx Bluegrass Festival I enjoyed very much the performance by Tony Rice playing 'Salt Creek' - what a great performance.

Thanks again for your comment.

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Mar 22, 2009 - 11:37:16 PM

12 posts since 1/24/2009

KemoSabe,
Thanks for all your list of chord progressions. It'll be a great asset to use. I didn't realize that many songs used the same chord progressions. Just different keys.
-Vic-


-Vic-

Mar 23, 2009 - 6:03:12 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by blksmth2

KemoSabe,
Thanks for all your list of chord progressions. It'll be a great asset to use. I didn't realize that many songs used the same chord progressions. Just different keys.
-Vic-



Vic

I didn't realize that many songs used the same progressions either when I started... when I began this thread I thought I might get about a dozen or so songs in each of maybe three groups. After you listen and play along with these progressions it gets easier and easier to predict (and nail) the chord changes. I think Pete Wernick compared the sounds of some of these chord changes to the sounds and sensations of shifting of gears in an auto - that describes it well for me in a ton of these songs. I also have fun learning about the different keys along the way. It seems to me a lot of this stuff is all about chord patterns, timing and ear training.

Thanks for your post.

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 03/23/2009 18:07:25

May 9, 2009 - 6:13:32 AM

3928 posts since 1/16/2007

BUMP - Just because this may be THE most valuable post (at least to me) EVER to help newbies start jamming! Thanx to all who have contributed thus far.
What is the chord progression for "Lonesome Pines"?


It''s a gDGBD (Gosh Darn Good Banjo Day)!
Tony

Proud Member of

The Gibson Chapter

"...if ya got time to breathe, ya got time for music..."
Briscoe Darling - Apr.29,1963

May 11, 2009 - 7:43:03 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by TMarshall1

BUMP - Just because this may be THE most valuable post (at least to me) EVER to help newbies start jamming! Thanx to all who have contributed thus far.
What is the chord progression for "Lonesome Pines"?


It''s a gDGBD (Gosh Darn Good Banjo Day)!
Tony

Proud Member of

The Gibson Chapter

"...if ya got time to breathe, ya got time for music..."
Briscoe Darling - Apr.29,1963




Tony

I will listen for chords to 'Lonesome Pines'.

Thanks for the bump and the comment. In addition to what I agree are some good points for getting ready for jams - I have also had jam organizers and band members tell me they have distributed these chord ideas / lists to their group members.

Thanks,

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

May 14, 2009 - 2:56:16 PM

2586 posts since 5/12/2007

[quote]Originally posted by Kemo Sabe
'On Top Of Old Smokey'
...The Morris Brothers & Earl Scruggs (3/4) (Key of A): youtube.com/watch?v=ExaJoy9v_jk

I don't think I'll ever tire of watching that clip.

May 24, 2009 - 5:43:08 PM

338 posts since 10/6/2007

It's amazing how you look at something one day and say "OK, that's neat" and then later look at it and it's life changing (or at least banjo progress changing). I've rediscovered your post and it is helping me greatly - a treasure trove!
Along with your chord info, the links, and my new found "D, skip 2, bar, skip 2, F, skip 1...etc." knowledge, I'm having a great time playing along and finding chords all over the neck.

Thank you very much Phil!
Crutch

May 25, 2009 - 7:36:53 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by millennium3

It's amazing how you look at something one day and say "OK, that's neat" and then later look at it and it's life changing (or at least banjo progress changing). I've rediscovered your post and it is helping me greatly - a treasure trove!
Along with your chord info, the links, and my new found "D, skip 2, bar, skip 2, F, skip 1...etc." knowledge, I'm having a great time playing along and finding chords all over the neck.

Thank you very much Phil!
Crutch
________________________________________________________

Crutch

I think you have discovered the beauty of 'patterns' of chord progressions up and down the neck - that is very exciting and a BIG development in learning the banjo. I too enjoy going up and down the neck and playing along with these links. I believe there is a lot of learning going on with those exercises - and it's the same 'pattern' regardless of the key of the song.

My third greatest pleasure in the music world is realizing I have helped someone in some small way learn something about music. Thank you for your comment above!

My second greatest pleasure in the mucic world is enjoying the music.

My greatest pleasure in the music world lately has been playing the music.

Thanks again for your post.

Phil





"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Jun 10, 2009 - 3:30:48 AM

GlennM

USA

4506 posts since 8/31/2005

Great post

Check Out TheBluegrassAcademy.com

Jun 28, 2009 - 4:20:46 PM

bones

USA

844 posts since 2/10/2003

phil great job. a labor of love. good to see al the updates and links you've added since i saw the first posting a while back. for those not undersdtanding the circle of fith's in relation to the nashville numberings system visit the theory section more often --- it sometimes gets complicated but generally you will find very helpful pickers there to help simplify your questions.

For Fun and Frolic the One and Only "Mr. Bones" and his trusty 5 string Banjo !

Edited by - bones on 08/03/2009 19:28:12

Jun 28, 2009 - 7:12:16 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by bones

phil great job. a labor of love. good to see al the updates and links you've added since i saw the first posting a while back. for those not undersdtanding the circle of fith's in relation to the nashville numberings system visit the theory section more often --- it sometimes gets complicated but generally you will find very helpful pickers there to help simplify your questins.

For Fun and Frolic the One and Only "Mr. Bones" and his trusty 5 string Banjo !





Thank you for your kind words!

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Jun 28, 2009 - 9:10:47 PM

DocDel

USA

11 posts since 5/1/2009

Just finished reading through the whole thread. Great insight and information that helps me alot. Thanks to Kemo Sabe, Banjomon and all who contributed.
Glad I joined the hangout, learning somthing new every day.

Success is not final, Failure is not fatal, What counts is the will to carry on.....WC

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:41:04 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

Thanks for your comments DocDel and welcome to BHO!

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 07/01/2009 06:56:15

Jul 13, 2009 - 9:01:33 AM

4393 posts since 2/6/2003

quote:
Originally posted by TMarshall1

BUMP - Just because this may be THE most valuable post (at least to me) EVER to help newbies start jamming! Thanx to all who have contributed thus far.
What is the chord progression for "Lonesome Pines"?


It''s a gDGBD (Gosh Darn Good Banjo Day)!
Tony

Proud Member of

The Gibson Chapter

"...if ya got time to breathe, ya got time for music..."
Briscoe Darling - Apr.29,1963


We play Lonesome Pine with these chords:
G - D - C - G - Am - Bm - C - D - G.

j

youtube.com/profile?user=downo...ew=videos
There''s more to life than playing the banjo, but not a lot more.

Jul 25, 2009 - 7:38:31 PM

104 posts since 1/28/2007

thanks to all
this is a big help

add one more smile to each day .....banjo bode

Aug 13, 2009 - 6:13:13 AM

115 posts since 3/8/2009

I also want to thank everyone for this post. It solidified what I just started discovering the last week or so about how many songs use G,C,D in various combinations.
It has made my practice even more enjoyable to start strumming and singing songs I like using chords. I will also try to find different patterns for the same chords up and down the neck. This fun practice helps me learn where the chords are and also how to form tough positions like D smoothly and transistion between them.
I can't help to think that I'm "cheating" when I do some things like, use a barre chord instead of a closed chord or simply strum instead of vamping or frailing. But I try to mix it up. I like the cool effect of forming the chord one half step below the actual chord and sliding it up.
Stew

Aug 13, 2009 - 8:28:07 AM

154 posts since 6/9/2009

'Man Of Constant Sorrow' sound really wrong.
It is probably more like F Bb C F or something like that.
At least that what I managed to squeeze out from one string. (I can be also wrong because I have 0 experience)




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Edited by - bandzo on 08/13/2009 09:03:40

Aug 13, 2009 - 10:34:58 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by bandzo

'Man Of Constant Sorrow' sound really wrong.
It is probably more like F Bb C F or something like that.
At least that what I managed to squeeze out from one string. (I can be also wrong because I have 0 experience)....



I am not sure what version of the song you are talking about ...
In the movie 'Oh Brother Where Art Thou' I think the Soggy Bottom Boys did the song in the Key of F as you have listed .... Dan Tyminski is the lead singer in that version. I had the great pleasure of seeing and hearing Dan Tyminski perform that song a couple of months ago at the Argyle Bluegrass Festival. So if that is what you are talking about you are exactly correct. If you are squeezing out F, Bflat and C on one string with Dan's version you are hearing REAL GOOD! And, you have way more experience than the "0" you are giving yourself!

In the link on page one to this thread - BanjoJeff is doing the song in the Key of G if I am not mistaken. And he and his group do a great job!

Phil



"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 08/13/2009 10:53:11

Aug 21, 2009 - 4:50:41 AM

1868 posts since 2/14/2004

I haven't read any of the post so maybe what I'm offering is redundant.

There's an "old-time fiddle tune named "Twinkle Little Star" I first heard at Union Grove in the late 1960's that might be of interest to learn the chords to. It fits the banjo fairly well.

Here's a link to one Appalachian version:

aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.p...55&REC=18

Doug

Enjoy the music!

Sep 17, 2009 - 6:37:05 AM

308 posts since 5/14/2007

I can't even believe all the work you put into this post Phil.

You put a lot of work into this!

It's impressive!

Edited by - Greg Connor on 09/17/2009 06:38:39

Sep 17, 2009 - 4:33:39 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Greg Connor

I can't even believe all the work you put into this post Phil.

You put a lot of work into this!

It's impressive!



Greg,

Yes, I have put some time in on this thread. It has been and continues to be a great learning project for me: Chords, chord progressions, timing, ear training and just learning about songs in general. I am a retired CPA - when I decided to learn something about music theory I went back to college and took a course in Music Fundamentals. I realized I needed more: This thread has served my purpose and goal of learning about chords and chord progressions and ear training. This has been a fun project for me - I love music and it is very satisfying to gain some basic understanding of music and to play some of these songs on the banjo.

Thanks for your comments.

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Sep 17, 2009 - 7:00:20 PM

308 posts since 5/14/2007

Thanks for sharing my song, Chicken Plucking Time in Petaluma, with everyone Phil. It's an honor for me.

Edited by - Greg Connor on 09/17/2009 19:02:09

Sep 19, 2009 - 5:02:40 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Greg Connor

Thanks for sharing my song, Chicken Plucking Time in Petaluma, with everyone Phil. It's an honor for me.



'Chicken Plucking Time In Petaluma' - banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=8588

That's a very nice song Greg - You have good vocals and did a great job writing and producing it. It has a nice touch of creativity and humor. I love the way you make use of the relative minor in the song. That song reminds me of Roger Miller - I do believe he would be proud of you on this song.

Phil

"Listen, listen, listen and play, play, play." (Murphy Henry)

Sep 30, 2009 - 9:40:15 AM

308 posts since 5/14/2007

Thanks Phil for using my song "Banjo Hangout" and dedicating it, as you did, to all the teachers on BHO.

Banjo Hangout

banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icid=5496

Edited by - Greg Connor on 09/30/2009 09:42:01

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