Phil, Thanks for this chart. I have printed it off and will save in my instructional binder.
Thanks again!

Cheers!
Don

Isn't it wonderful when you suddenly realize that many songs have the same chord progression, just different melodies? That's when you can suddenly start jammin' with others and know chord progressions without thinking too much about them.

You've come a long way in a couple of years, yes?

Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo

Thank you Don and thank you Texas Banjo. Yes, Sherry, I am starting to get the hang of some of this fun stuff. The BHO and you nice teachers have helped me a lot in many areas of learning about music and I am very grateful for the help from all of you. Are you going to Camp Bluegrass or HCamp this year? I am going to Camp Bluegrass but I will not be able to go to HCamp.

Don, I have added 'New River Train' to Group B - that song is frequently done at jams I go to and I hope you add to the list you printed. I suspect there will be additional edits to the Groups.

Thanks again Don and Sherry.

Phil
Katy, TX


"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

When you stop and think about it......and maybe this comes in time.......but every song is played in a particular "key". And each key has it's own set of chords that make up that key. The chord progression through a particular song may vary from one song to another but generally, the chords are the same in a given key.

To take that a step further, and by example, if you play a tune in the key of G.......the chords for that particular key is typically G, C & D and will include an Em - depending on the tune. Now let's say that there is a singer for this tune and they can't sing it in the key of G but sings it in the key of C. So you have to play the chords for that particular key which is typically C, F & G and it will include a Am - depending again on the tune.

You can apply this same concept to play that particular tune in any key you want but you have to know the chords for the key. The more you play in different keys the more this becomes obvious but it takes time to realize.

I suppose there are many folks that need to use charts of varying types, etc., to keep all this straight however, experience and time should take care of it to where it just becomes automatic when you play. Instead of depending on charts, etc., all you will want to know is "what key" the song is being played in. And if you play with folks that are of good caliber then it can happen for you sooner than say playing with folks that are less than adequate.........kind of like the blind leading the blind so to speak. Playing in this type of setting can do more damage than good so avoid it lke the plague.

Kemo Sabe - you've made some good observances and I'm sure that the info that you've posted will indeed help many out there.



Pickin' Proud & Pickin' Loud
on my RK-R80!

Phil, no, we're not going to either camp this year -- gas prices entirely too high to travel to Kerrville and after being at Camp Bluegrass for 10 years, well, just don't want to go back anymore. Great camp, though, good teachers, you really learn a lot.

Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo

Thanks for listing out the progressions for all those songs. It will be a big help.

AD3

As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...

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As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...

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Great thread. A bit advanced for me, I understand what your talking about & all, I'm just not there yet.

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Proudly learning to pick more than my nose!

Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g

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Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g

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Isn't it wonderful when you suddenly realize that many songs have the same chord progression, just different melodies? That's when you can suddenly start jammin' with others and know chord progressions without thinking too much about them.


You've come a long way in a couple of years, yes?

Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo

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Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g

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What happens if your dog eats the list? What happens if they pick one that's not on the list?

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usus promptos facit

Grifton NC

Thanks 'phil' and 'old 7' for the info, shall try to get my head around it, trouble is it's a reasonably oldish head, ( old dog new tricks ), but will have to try, need something to get a bit better, thanks again.

brian g

phew! went on site suggested, whoa! what a mixed bag, eventually I came up with this ie; 1=C / 11=Dm / 111=Em / 1V=F / V=G7 / V1=Am / V11=Bm7b5---if tuned to 'G' would that be G - A - B - C - D - E - F# or does the numbering system in roman numerals apply to whateve your tuned to? or maybe ie; if playing a tune (banjo tuned to 'G') song in 'A' the 1 to V11 would mean playing cords A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-, think I'll go and start to learn origarmi...

brian g

Like Brian I am also new to all of this. I think I have got my head around it a little ~ can you let me know if I am correct please ? As Brian said - presumably the chord patterns are the same whichever key is being played ?

Does this mean that group A are in the key of G and that the chord progression is 1 (G) iv (D7) 1(G) v(C) 1(G) = G D7 G C G ?

I am having real problems getting a clear sound on some of the chords I do a mighty fine 'plunk' though I am hoping that this will become clear with time and so am not pausing to correct things while I am trying to do a chord progression practice with the above three chords.

I keep practicing away at the chord position on other occasions. How short can a woman have her nails on the left hand I ask you ! ?

One question I have, if I am playing a forward roll accompaniement with the melody being song - do I maintain (ie) a consistant 8 beat bar say of all quavers or do I alter the roll so that it is 'in time' rythmically with the melody ?

For example in Oh my darling Clementine I am finding myself wanting to follow the rhythm rather than keep a regular beat and allow the voice to do the rhythm on the chorus etc. Does any of that make sense ?

I only have the chord names to work on not a tab and am trying to work things from that, figure out a roll pattern.

Did any others find that they had a tendency to pause the right hand whilst they put their left hand chord on when they first started out ? I find myself staring madly at my left hand willing it to just drop into place ( fingers all set in the right pattern ) and it is like being at the edge of a high platform waiting to jump into water - the right hand keeps on and on and on paitently waiting and then the left hand goes for it and the right hand pauses to admire ! Yay you hit the right strings - now then, what was I doing here ?

Hi Jani, (apparently according to a film! name means friend of the people), Just thought I'd mention that, as to cord shapes left hand, just keep the practice up, and eventually they just fall into place without thinking, long nails! depends how much you cherish the finger-board, as after some time little grooves will appear unless your nails are as short as possible, the other points you make are what I'm trying to work out too, whoever finds out first (make a pact) to inform each other? all the best, keep the practice up...

brian g

Try this guys.......

This is broken down in to 3 major keys but hopefully you’ll get the idea by looking at these examples.

Example 1 – Key of G

G A B C D E F

Chord Progression = I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So…….the chords in the key of G are>>> G, C & D with the minor chord being a Em.


Example 2 – Key of C

C D E F G A B

Chord Progression = I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So….the chords in the key of C are>>> C, F & G and the minor chord is Am.


Example 3 – Key of D

D E F G A B C

Chord Progression= I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So….the chords in the key of D are>>>D, G, & A and the minor chord is Bm.


Now….by using the examples, you can in effect use the same method for any key with a I, IV, V numbering.




Pickin' Proud & Pickin' Loud
on my RK-R80!

Thanks Ken for all the help, keep 'proudly pickin'

brian g

Great topic, Well done.

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Great topic, Well done.

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Great post. Making connections like this especially helps people like me with poor memory

-Justin-

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As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...

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"My Little Home in Tennessee", sometimes called "Little Home in Tennessee" is not one of the most commonly played bluegrass songs, just one I happen to like. I believe it's an old Carter family song and has been recorded by a number of artists, recently by IIIrd Tyme Out. There is a tab for it at banjobluegrass.free.fr/Banjo_tabs_M.html, though chords are not included. You can tell from the tab, however, that it is a I - !V - V - I chord progression.

There are a few other songs I've found where at least the verse is a I - !V - V - I progression. I'll try to find my list and post them here.

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...