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Today's Chords: 'Playing the Melody' .. + see pg. 11

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Apr 17, 2007 - 8:04:06 AM
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A while back it occurred to me while learning about chord progressions that a lot of 3 chord songs seem to fall into similar patterns of chord sequence (chord progressions). I started putting together:

Group A: I IV I V I
Will The Circle Be Unbroken, Mountain Dew, Wreck Of The Old '97, In The Pines...+
Group B: I V I IV I V I
Banks Of The Ohio, New River Train, Old Time Religion, Take This Hammer, Happy Birthday...+
Group C: I IV I IV I V I
You Are My Sunshine, East Virginia Blues, Lonesome Rd Blues, Roll On Buddy ....+
Group D: I IV V I
Blue Ridge Cabin Home, Great Speckled Bird, Man Of Constant Sorrow, Walk The Way The Wind Blows...+


...For a concise version of these ideas (with 300+ song titles with chord progressions) - that you can easily use in jam circles and while practicing at home, see my Homepage Blog - "Jam Buddy Chord Chart" or click on:

http://rmathers22.wix.com/jambuddychordchart

JAM BUDDY CHORD CHART works great on my IPhone (use for quick reference) and it also works beautifully on IPad.  It is very nice to have handy reference to chord progressions of over 300 songs at my fingertips. 

 

Playing the Melody  (downloadable)

Bob Miller (Key: G)

I   V   I   IV   I   V   I   =   G...D...G...C...G...D...G

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Here is Bob's YouTube "Playing the Melody":

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=281M82hxn3Q

 

Thanks Bob!

 

Pancho And Lefty

 Just Bill (Key: C) 

 C/// G/// F/// C/ G/ F/// C/ F/ C// G/// F/ Am///  

 

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Rocky Top

spoonfed (Key: G) 

Verse:  (G...C...G...Em...D...G)X4

Chorus:  Em...D...F...C...G...F...G...F...G

 

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 Blackberry Blossom

thilo-w (Key: G)

Part A:    (G..D..C..G..C..G..A..D......G..D..C..G..C..G..D..G)X2

Part B:    (em..B7..em..C..G..D..G)x2

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Minor Chords

Dave Magram:    http://www.banjohangout.org/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?isjukebox=no&musicID=397

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Chord Patterns and Positions (downloadable)

Dave Magram:

 



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http://www.banjohangout.org/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?isjukebox=no&musicID=4676  t.org/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?isjukebox=no&musicID=6430 http://www.banjohangout.org/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?isjukebox=no&musicID=6430   http://www.hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp?site=Banjo+Hangout&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebanjohangout%2Eorg%2Fmyhangout%2Fmedia%2Dplayer%2Faudio%5Fplayer%2Easp%3FmusicID%3D2120 http://www.hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp?site=Banjo+Hangout&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebanjohangout%2Eorg%2Fmyhangout%2Fmedia%2Dplayer%2Faudio%5Fplayer%2Easp%3Fisjukebox%3Dno%26musicID%3D9044

 
Group A with chord progressions: I IV I V I
i.e.) In the Key of G: G..C..G..D..G

1. Will The Circle Be Unbroken (Key of G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D19919
2. Do Lord (Key: G)hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...ID%3D3902
3. Nine Pound Hammer (Key: G)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_TpdiDkto&feature=related 
4. I'll Fly Away..backing track: Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icid=4797
5. Worried Man Blues (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=OCtuZv7dSEA
6. When The Roll Is Called Up Yonder (Verse) (..Chorus is in Group B) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=756
7. When You Go Walking (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=UN6ONx20wa...e=related
8. Take Me In Your Lifeboat
9. Uncloudy Day (Verse) (Chorus is in Group B) (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=3Bj8V133iz...e=related
10. White House Blues (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZBLX6g4U...e=related
11. Swing Low Sweet Chariot
12. Mountain Dew (Key of G)    banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=1921
13. One Day At A Time (3/4) (Chorus) (Verse is in Group B)
14. Sittin' On Top Of The World (Verse + Chorus = I IV I V I) (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=T3t4IaJVV_...e=related
15. I Saw The Light
16. Long Journey Home ($2 Bill) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=10068
17. Don't This Road Look Rough & Rocky (Verse)
18. Bury Me Beneath The Willow (Key:Bb) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D19511
19. Your Love Is Like A Flower (Key: Bb) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=776
20. A Beautiful Life (Verse) (..Chorus starts I IV V I..) (4/4)
21. You Can Have Her (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=WXanRhhoYIs
22. Are You Washed In The Blood (Key of G) (Verse is in Group B - Chorus is in Group A) (6423)
23. You Go To Your Church & ll Go To Mine
24. Lord, Im Coming Home (3/4) (Key of C) youtube.com/watch?v=jQoYuPWpoD...e=related
25. Daddy Sang Bass (Verse) (.. Ch. ENDS on I IV I IV I V I)
26. Paradise (3/4) (Key: E) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D17297
27. Crying Holy
28. Children Go Where I Send Thee
29. Precious Memories (Verse) (Chorus is in Group C)
30. In The Pines (3/4) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=4676 ...hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D10315
31. Amazing Grace (3/4)
32. Angel Band (3/4) (Verse) (..Chorus starts V I V I) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=3890 (Key: D) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=11871
33. Cabin In Caroline (Verse) (..Chorus goes quickly to IV) (Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=3863
34. Back To The Cross (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=gmvZEj6xz1U
35. Amanda (3/4)
36. What A Friend We Have In Jesus (I IV I V I)x2 V (I IV I V I)x2 (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=12315
37. Leaning On The Everlasting Arms (Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=6426
38. I'll Never Shed Another Tear (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=bakEszyxhMQ
39. Gold Watch and Chain (Chorus & Verse go quickly to IV chord)
40. Molly and Tenbrooks (I IV I V I V I) (Key of B flat)
41. On and On (Key of G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D16514
42. Big Ball In Boston
43. A Little At A Time (Verse) (..Chorus starts IV I V I ..)
44. Blue Moon Of Kentucky [Originally 3/4, often played 3/4 then 4/4](Bridge goes quickly to IV) (Key: A) (8388)
45. Home Sweet Home (Key: C)hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D20747
46. Wreck Of The Old '97 (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=6211
47. Y'All Come (Verse) (..Last Chorus sometimes ENDS on I IV V I) (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=-z3ds70nDx...e=related
48. In The Gravel Yard (Key of A) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=397
49. I've Waited As Long As I Can
50. Cripple Creek (Part A: I IV I V I) (Part B is Two Chord: I V) 



Group B with chord progressions: I V I IV I V I
i.e.) In the Key of G: G..D..G..C..G..D..G

1. She'll Be Coming Round The Mountain (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_VRG7imxw
2. Banks of the Ohio (Key: C..modulates to G..then back toC)hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...ID%3D7659
3. When The Saints Go Marching In
4. Roll In My Sweet Baby's Arms (I V I IV V I) (Key of A) (3537)
5. Will You Be Loving Another Man
6. When The Roll Is Called Up Yonder (Chorus) (..Verse is in Group A) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=756
7. Mama Don't 'Low (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=DOvGz6FvdwY
8. Old Time Religion (Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=3024
9. Uncloudy Day (Chorus: I II V I IV I V I) (Verse is Group A) (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=3Bj8V133iz...e=related
10. Red River Valley (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=10623
11. Katy Kline (Cline) (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=U_TjiymDIX4
12. New River Train (Key: G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D18146
13. One Day At A Time (3/4) (Verse) (Chorus is in Group A)
14. Why Dont You Tell Me So (Verse) (..Chorus starts on IV) (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=F47OQfW1k6k
15. Take This Hammer (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=9305
16. Happy Birthday (3/4) (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=14168
17. Will There Be Any Stars (Chorus) (Verse is in Group D)
18. Think Of What You've Done (Verse) (..Chorus starts on IV) (Key of B) youtube.com/watch?v=4PzJn-1q6E4
19. River Of Jordan (Chorus) (...Verse starts out I V I V.) (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=dK32ViCdLWg
20. Trouble In Mind
21. Cindy (Verse) (Chorus is in Group C)
22. Who Will Sing For Me (Chorus starts on V) (Verse in in Group C)
23. The Little Girl And The Dreadful Snake (3/4)(Chorus)(Verse is in Group A)
24. Born To Be With You (I V V7 I I7 IV I V I) ( Key of B) youtube.com/watch?v=IfKQeFt56LA#
25. In The Sweet By and By (Chorus) (Verse is in Group A)(Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=265 banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=1749 (Key of D)resohangout.com/myhangout/medi...icID=2265


Group C chord progressions: I IV I IV I V I
i.e.) In the Key of G: G..C..G..C..G..D..G

1. You Are My Sunshine (Key of G): banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=6550
2. Lonesome Road Blues (Key of G) (8860)
3. Roll On Buddy (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=lDYObSF___8#
4. East Virginia Blues ( Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=EGSUJpg2Ak...e=related (Another version in Key of B flat) youtube.com/watch?v=oNIleMIuHp...e=related
5. Rawhide
6. Little Glass Of Wine (Key of D) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=7775
7. Cindy (Chorus) (Verse is in Group B)
8. The Old Rugged Cross (6/8) (Chorus goes quickly to V) (Verse is in Group D) (Key of G) (8837)
9. Who Will Sing For Me (Verse) (Chorus is in Group B & starts on V)
10. Lonesome River (Verse) (Chorus is 2 chord: I V) (Key of E) youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-dTcBzhBk
11. Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star (I IV I IV I V I) (I IV I V I)x2 (I IV I IV I V I) (Key of D) youtube.com/watch?v=xcUaefeX_Co&NR=1
12. The Alphabet Song (Same as Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star)
13. Baa Baa Black Sheep (Same as Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star)
14. Precious Memories (Chorus) (Verse is in Group A)
15. I'm Not Lisa (Verse) (Chorus is in Group D)
16. Roving Gambler (sometimes played as two chord: I IV; often played as 3 chord: I IV I IV I V I) ..here is a 3 chord version in the Key of A): youtube.com/watch?v=mEEuGWS0GiI
17. The Last Thing On My Mind (Verse) (Chorus begins on V IV ..and is in Group A above)
18. Alabama (3/4)
19. John Hardy (begins on IV...I IV I IV I V I)
20. Ain't Gonna Work Tomorrow (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=u_BCUnCuNg4
21. Going Down This Road Feeling Bad
22. Banjo Picking Girl (Key of B flat) youtube.com/watch?v=dG84EWXVoY4
23. I Wonder How The Old Folks Are At Home (I IV I IV I II V I) (Key of G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=6374
24. House Of Gold (key of E) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=9184
25. Jesus Savior Pilot me (I IV I IV I V I)(I V I V I)(I IV I IV I V I) (key of D) youtube.com/watch?v=P3Xpt-3HTK...e=related


Group D chord progressions: I IV V I
i.e.) In the Key of G: G..C..D..G

1. Blue Ridge Cabin Home (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=2961 (Key: B) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=15789
2. If I Lose (Verse)(..Chorus starts I V I V...)(Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=qgOW9VC2Ev...e=related
3. Walk Through This World With Me
4. Man of Constant Sorrow (Key of G): banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=260
5. (My) Little Home In Tennessee (Verse) (..Ch. starts V I II[7] V)
6. We'll Meet Again Sweetheart (Key of B) youtube.com/watch?v=o581oaAcAQw
7. Is It Too Late Now
8. Give Me Forty Acres
9. I'm Using My Bible For A Roadmap (Verse)(Ch. goes quickly to V .. I II V) (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=4zapfzyELo8
10. Teardrops In My Eyes (Verse) (Chorus starts V I II V..) (Key of B flat) youtube.com/watch?v=M66G06Vmiu0#
11. Great Speckled Bird (Key:G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=836
12. I'm Thinking Tonight Of My Blue Eyes (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=836
13. The Wild Side of Life (key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=836
14. It Wasnt God Who Made Honky-Tonk Angels (Key: G) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=836
15. Footprints In The Snow (Verse)(..Chorus starts I V I IV .)
16. I Wonder Where You Are Tonight (Verse) (Chorus starts IV I V I..)
17. Wabash Cannonball (Key: G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...ID%3D8339 resohangout.com/myhangout/medi...icID=6309
18. Come On Down To My World (Verse) (..Chorus: I IV V IV V I..)
19. Even Now
20. The Old Rugged Cross (6/8) (Verse)(Chorus goes quickly to V & is in Group C)
21. This Morning At Nine (Key of G) youtube.com/watch?v=0shbXT99hLs
22. Another Night
23. Alabama Bound
24. Storms Never Last
25. Life Of Sorrow 26. Mr.Engineer (Song starts on IV)

Two Chord: I V except as indicated

1. Crazy Heart (key of Bb) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...sicID=447
2. Kentucky Girl (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=rET4O5giq6s#
3. The Legend Of The Rebel Soldier (Ea. Verse 2 chord: Key of G, then A then Key of C): youtube.com/watch?v=_y1hz9p8vzg
4. Palms of Victory
5. I'll Go Steppin Too
6. Little Birdie (Key of G) (8195)
7. Katy Daley (Key of A) banjohangout.org/myhangout/vid...styleID=3
8. Somehow Tonight (Key of B) youtube.com/watch?v=LLmnQw3LNBI
9. Tom Dooley (Key of G) (11514)
10. Skip To My Lou (key: D) fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/me...icID=5437


Other

1. Chord Progression: I V I V I IV I V I :
......Wildwood Flower (keys: C..then G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...ID%3D8317 (Keys: G,G,F,C) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=7257 (key: F) after Old Gospel Ship...: flatpickerhangout.com/myhangou...icID=4860
......Careless Love (Key of A) fiddlehangout.com/myhangout/me...icID=1876
......Drifting Too Far From The Shore - (3/4) - Verse (Chorus starts on IV then I V I IV I V I) (Key of A) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=6699
......Rosewood Casket (Little Rosewood Casket)(Key of D) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=12984
2. Chord Progression: I VI II V I :
......I Know What It Means To Be Lonesome (Chorus and Verses start on VI)
......Don't Let Your Deal Go Down (Chorus and verses start on VI)
......Salty Dog Blues
3. Blackberry Blossom (Key of G)(Part A: G D C G C G A D .. G D C G C G D G)x2 (Part B: Em B7 Em C G D G)x2
4. Chord Progressiosns I V I IV I IV I V I
......Dark Hollow (I V I IV I I(7) IV I V I)
......I Am A Pilgrim (Key: G) hangoutstorage.com/jukebox.asp...D%3D18325
......Toy Heart
......More Pretty Girls Than One
......I've Been All Around This World (Key: C) C[10] G[2] C[2] F[2] C[2] F[4] C[4] G[2] C[4] banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=10300
5. Sanctuary (I V IV I) V (I V IV I) (Key of A) youtube.com/watch?v=yywO8hA8Z9...e=related
6. The Old Home Place (Verse: I III IV I V I) (Chorus begins V I II V...) (Key of A) http: banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...cID=12218
7. Love, Please Come Home (I VII flat IV) (I IV I V I)
8. Oh Susannah (Verse: I V I V I) (Chorus: IV I V I V I) [i.e..This song is essentially a two chord song [I V] except for the IV chord start of the chorus: "Oh Susannah"]
9. Chord Progression: (I V I IV V I):
....Goodnight Irene (3/4)
....Blue Ridge Mtn Blues - Chorus (Verse is 2 chord)
....A Hundred Years From Now
....Martha White Theme Song (Key of C) banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...icID=3127
10. Foggy Mountain Breakdown (G Em G Em G D G) youtube.com/watch?v=sWX-KMSWIx...e=related
 

I have noticed there are different takes on some songs. I have tried to present the most simple chord progressions to these songs ... beginner type of approach. If you see an error in these lists or have any suggestions please let me know and I will post accordingly.

Phil
Katy, TX

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 10/22/2014 10:10:48

Apr 17, 2007 - 8:34:12 AM

axsis

Canada

2027 posts since 11/27/2006

Phil, Thanks for this chart. I have printed it off and will save in my instructional binder.
Thanks again!

Cheers!
Don

Apr 17, 2007 - 8:49:07 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

23980 posts since 8/3/2003

Isn't it wonderful when you suddenly realize that many songs have the same chord progression, just different melodies? That's when you can suddenly start jammin' with others and know chord progressions without thinking too much about them.

You've come a long way in a couple of years, yes?

Let's Pick!
Texas Banjo

Apr 17, 2007 - 9:29:21 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

Thank you Don and thank you Texas Banjo. Yes, Sherry, I am starting to get the hang of some of this fun stuff. The BHO and you nice teachers have helped me a lot in many areas of learning about music and I am very grateful for the help from all of you. Are you going to Camp Bluegrass or HCamp this year? I am going to Camp Bluegrass but I will not be able to go to HCamp.

Don, I have added 'New River Train' to Group B - that song is frequently done at jams I go to and I hope you add to the list you printed. I suspect there will be additional edits to the Groups.

Thanks again Don and Sherry.

Phil
Katy, TX


"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 04/17/2007 09:31:05

Apr 17, 2007 - 10:01:12 AM

530 posts since 9/18/2006

When you stop and think about it......and maybe this comes in time.......but every song is played in a particular "key". And each key has it's own set of chords that make up that key. The chord progression through a particular song may vary from one song to another but generally, the chords are the same in a given key.

To take that a step further, and by example, if you play a tune in the key of G.......the chords for that particular key is typically G, C & D and will include an Em - depending on the tune. Now let's say that there is a singer for this tune and they can't sing it in the key of G but sings it in the key of C. So you have to play the chords for that particular key which is typically C, F & G and it will include a Am - depending again on the tune.

You can apply this same concept to play that particular tune in any key you want but you have to know the chords for the key. The more you play in different keys the more this becomes obvious but it takes time to realize.

I suppose there are many folks that need to use charts of varying types, etc., to keep all this straight however, experience and time should take care of it to where it just becomes automatic when you play. Instead of depending on charts, etc., all you will want to know is "what key" the song is being played in. And if you play with folks that are of good caliber then it can happen for you sooner than say playing with folks that are less than adequate.........kind of like the blind leading the blind so to speak. Playing in this type of setting can do more damage than good so avoid it lke the plague.

Kemo Sabe - you've made some good observances and I'm sure that the info that you've posted will indeed help many out there.



Pickin' Proud & Pickin' Loud
on my RK-R80!

Apr 17, 2007 - 10:47:12 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

23980 posts since 8/3/2003

Phil, no, we're not going to either camp this year -- gas prices entirely too high to travel to Kerrville and after being at Camp Bluegrass for 10 years, well, just don't want to go back anymore. Great camp, though, good teachers, you really learn a lot.

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Texas Banjo

Apr 17, 2007 - 11:25:20 AM

3065 posts since 1/24/2007

Thanks for listing out the progressions for all those songs. It will be a big help.

AD3

Apr 19, 2007 - 12:35:41 PM

rstieg

USA

1616 posts since 10/1/2003

As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...

Apr 19, 2007 - 4:05:17 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by rstieg

As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...




Thank you Rich for that idea. I love that song 'Blue Ridge Cabin Home' because of the chord progression ... it is a great example of a progression where I do not have to think in these early days of my learning about music. I consider that my 'benchmark song' for improvising, practicing rolls of different kinds, doing walk-ups, walk-downs, vamping along, etc. As time goes by and I get more comfortable with other progressions and songs, I realize that it's a whole bunch more fun when I don't have to think about chord changes on other songs and patterns. That is one of the reasons I have started listing these songs into chord pattern Groups. I have a practice c.d. with 'Blue Ridge Cabin Home' from Glenn (Banjo Academy) ... it has helped me a bunch. I will look up the other song you mentioned (My Little Home in Tennessee) and I hope we get more input about this chord progression. Maybe a Group D is in the making...I really hope so. To all who read this, please be reminded that I am a beginner and I am making huge efforts to verify and get blessings on the accuracy of the Groups. Any suggestions through this thread or e-mail to me will be appreciated. Thank you again Rich.

Phil
Katy, TX




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Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 04/19/2007 19:02:57

Apr 21, 2007 - 12:55:16 PM

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Great thread. A bit advanced for me, I understand what your talking about & all, I'm just not there yet.

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Apr 21, 2007 - 3:55:38 PM

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Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g

Edited by - Brian G on 04/21/2007 15:59:15

Apr 21, 2007 - 4:26:01 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Brian G

Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g



Brian - go to the Music Theory forum and look for the topic "Nashville Numbering System" ..... or, go to the 'Search' mode at the upper right of the BHO pages and search for "Nashville Numbering System". There is a lot of discussion on this topic. My take on this topic is that if you know the chord progressions under this numbering system it does not matter what key the song is played in ... you will be able convert from one key to another more easily. It also makes it a whole lot easier to talk to other people (in the jam or in the band) about the song structure. For me, using that numbering system has taken a lot of mystery out of key changes, song structure, etc. It has taken me a while to catch on to this numbering system but the effort is well worth it in my way of thinking. There are a lot of musicians on BHO that will be able to explain this better than me. (I also know some very, very good musicians that do not use this numbering system).

Phil
Katy, TX

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 04/21/2007 16:30:52

Apr 21, 2007 - 6:38:40 PM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Isn't it wonderful when you suddenly realize that many songs have the same chord progression, just different melodies? That's when you can suddenly start jammin' with others and know chord progressions without thinking too much about them.


You've come a long way in a couple of years, yes?

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Texas Banjo



Folks, Texas Banjo said a whole bunch with her post... I hope Sherry does not mind my emphasizing her post with red letters. Knowing the chord progression helps in anticipating the chord change before it happens and is great for 'ear training'. It lets you get a whole lot closer to being a contributor @ a jam session with some back-up stuff (vamps, rolls, fill-in licks) by being in the right chord @ the right time which is one of the absolute musts in jamming. Obviously, being in the right chord helps in finding the melody notes and in improvising. .

Phil
Katy, TX

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 05/20/2007 22:34:16

Apr 21, 2007 - 7:46:39 PM

old7

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quote:
Originally posted by Brian G

Help! what exactly are ie; 1.1V. V. etc, feel as if I've missed out on something??? can anyone explain by email? (thanks I hope) no wonder I'm not progressing much !.

brian g

Brian, This refers to the 1st(I), 4th(IV) and 5th(V) notes of the major scale of the given key. The minor chords mentioned are known as relative minors and are comprised of the 6th(mVI) note of the scale played in a minor form. This is a std formula for a number of genres from blues to bluegrass. The major scale is the ultimate learning tool for understanding music and for putting together tunes. Hope this makes some sense.

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Apr 22, 2007 - 8:32:15 AM

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Apr 22, 2007 - 9:11:27 AM
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Thanks 'phil' and 'old 7' for the info, shall try to get my head around it, trouble is it's a reasonably oldish head, ( old dog new tricks ), but will have to try, need something to get a bit better, thanks again.

brian g

Apr 22, 2007 - 10:46:21 AM

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phew! went on site suggested, whoa! what a mixed bag, eventually I came up with this ie; 1=C / 11=Dm / 111=Em / 1V=F / V=G7 / V1=Am / V11=Bm7b5---if tuned to 'G' would that be G - A - B - C - D - E - F# or does the numbering system in roman numerals apply to whateve your tuned to? or maybe ie; if playing a tune (banjo tuned to 'G') song in 'A' the 1 to V11 would mean playing cords A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-, think I'll go and start to learn origarmi...

brian g

Apr 22, 2007 - 10:56:13 PM

Jani

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12 posts since 3/20/2007

Like Brian I am also new to all of this. I think I have got my head around it a little ~ can you let me know if I am correct please ? As Brian said - presumably the chord patterns are the same whichever key is being played ?

Does this mean that group A are in the key of G and that the chord progression is 1 (G) iv (D7) 1(G) v(C) 1(G) = G D7 G C G ?

I am having real problems getting a clear sound on some of the chords I do a mighty fine 'plunk' though I am hoping that this will become clear with time and so am not pausing to correct things while I am trying to do a chord progression practice with the above three chords.

I keep practicing away at the chord position on other occasions. How short can a woman have her nails on the left hand I ask you ! ?

One question I have, if I am playing a forward roll accompaniement with the melody being song - do I maintain (ie) a consistant 8 beat bar say of all quavers or do I alter the roll so that it is 'in time' rythmically with the melody ?

For example in Oh my darling Clementine I am finding myself wanting to follow the rhythm rather than keep a regular beat and allow the voice to do the rhythm on the chorus etc. Does any of that make sense ?

I only have the chord names to work on not a tab and am trying to work things from that, figure out a roll pattern.

Did any others find that they had a tendency to pause the right hand whilst they put their left hand chord on when they first started out ? I find myself staring madly at my left hand willing it to just drop into place ( fingers all set in the right pattern ) and it is like being at the edge of a high platform waiting to jump into water - the right hand keeps on and on and on paitently waiting and then the left hand goes for it and the right hand pauses to admire ! Yay you hit the right strings - now then, what was I doing here ?

Edited by - Jani on 04/22/2007 22:57:46

Apr 23, 2007 - 7:02:01 AM

2079 posts since 2/23/2007

Hi Jani, (apparently according to a film! name means friend of the people), Just thought I'd mention that, as to cord shapes left hand, just keep the practice up, and eventually they just fall into place without thinking, long nails! depends how much you cherish the finger-board, as after some time little grooves will appear unless your nails are as short as possible, the other points you make are what I'm trying to work out too, whoever finds out first (make a pact) to inform each other? all the best, keep the practice up...

brian g

Apr 23, 2007 - 1:09:53 PM
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Try this guys.......

This is broken down in to 3 major keys but hopefully you’ll get the idea by looking at these examples.

Example 1 – Key of G

G A B C D E F

Chord Progression = I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So…….the chords in the key of G are>>> G, C & D with the minor chord being a Em.


Example 2 – Key of C

C D E F G A B

Chord Progression = I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So….the chords in the key of C are>>> C, F & G and the minor chord is Am.


Example 3 – Key of D

D E F G A B C

Chord Progression= I, IV, V and the minor chord is VI

So….the chords in the key of D are>>>D, G, & A and the minor chord is Bm.


Now….by using the examples, you can in effect use the same method for any key with a I, IV, V numbering.




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Edited by - banjomon on 04/23/2007 13:11:09

Apr 23, 2007 - 5:41:02 PM

2079 posts since 2/23/2007

Thanks Ken for all the help, keep 'proudly pickin'

brian g

Apr 23, 2007 - 8:11:05 PM

514 posts since 3/25/2007

Great topic, Well done.

Apr 23, 2007 - 8:21:39 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by pickinon5

Great topic, Well done.





Thank you pickinon5, old7, banjomon and all others who have helped on this post idea including several folks that have e-mailed me (off-line) with help.

Phil
Katy, TX

"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 04/24/2007 02:03:47

Apr 26, 2007 - 3:20:33 PM

61 posts since 2/23/2007

Great post. Making connections like this especially helps people like me with poor memory

-Justin-

Apr 28, 2007 - 12:12:04 AM

1126 posts since 7/15/2003

quote:
Originally posted by rstieg

As far as other common chord progressions, I'm sure there are several, but one that comes to mind is: I - IV - V - I (2 measures each), which includes Blue Ridge Cabin Home, My Little Home in Tennessee, and several others, though I'd have to do some research to remember others. I can recall playing several other songs and noticing that the chord progression was this one, but I don't recall which songs at the moment. Anyone else?

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...



I heard a song today that seems to work in the chord progression of I IV V I for the verse: 'If I Lose' - a song I heard on a CD by Ralph Stanley. I have not been able to find the song you mentioned 'My Little Home in Tennessee'. I am hoping we get some input from BHO members confirming the chord progression you mentioned. If that works then we are getting nearer a GROUP D which might consist of 'Blue Ridge Cabin Home', 'My Little Home in Tennessee' and 'If I Lose' which will be Verse only - the chorus starts out V I V I ... Maybe some more songs will be mentioned by BHO members with this chord progression. As rstieg said.."Anyone else?"

Another song that seems to fit that chord progression might be 'Walk Through This World With Me' (Verse)... I am not sure if the chorus starts on a I or does it start on a IV...????? I need an answer to that before I start a Group D. Thanks to anyone who helps on this idea.


Phil
Katy, TX



"Remember to enjoy the banjo journey." (Chris Quinn 11/02/2004)

Edited by - Kemo Sabe on 04/28/2007 13:03:54

Apr 30, 2007 - 1:06:25 PM

rstieg

USA

1616 posts since 10/1/2003

"My Little Home in Tennessee", sometimes called "Little Home in Tennessee" is not one of the most commonly played bluegrass songs, just one I happen to like. I believe it's an old Carter family song and has been recorded by a number of artists, recently by IIIrd Tyme Out. There is a tab for it at banjobluegrass.free.fr/Banjo_tabs_M.html, though chords are not included. You can tell from the tab, however, that it is a I - !V - V - I chord progression.

There are a few other songs I've found where at least the verse is a I - !V - V - I progression. I'll try to find my list and post them here.

RICH
Pleasanton, CA

The truth is a moving target... perception is more important than reality... everything is relative...

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