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larry p - Posted - 10/07/2010: 09:48:24
And as for Earl coming up with anything different and new in the recent past- it's easy to research that subject, and you'll soon find that Earl Scruggs has never stopped coming up with something new-his album 'Sitting On Top Of The World' has a tune called 'Lindsey' that's considerably different from anything else he (or anyone else I'm aware of) has done. I've yet to hear anyone else tackle it. His latest release, 'Live at The Ryman' has some breaks on songs like 'In The Pines' that are nothing short of incredible, very different from anything he's ever recorded before, and as blusy and gritty as Son House. All this stuff is available, and the answers to the question of whether he's still coming up with anything different and new is evident-all one needs to do- if you're truly interested in the subject- is educate yourself a bit. It's there for you..
mike gregory - Posted - 10/07/2010: 11:38:38
If you let them get way with enough anti Earl, next thing you know, they're going after aunti Em!
And you can tell by her frown, she doesn't think we should be paying that guy any attention a-tall!
Umm, would the Number of the AntiEarl be banjo related, like three strokes on the high G?
5-5-5!
Ron Stewart - Posted - 10/07/2010: 11:53:50
Larry,
Thank you for those kind words, but I'm afraid you may be giving me more crdit than I deserve! I am still learning everyday what I DO NOT know on any of those instruments, and how much there is to learn....ALWAYS! I have never forgotten your kindness to me, and the fun we had picking and hanging out! You are a good dude and that's quite a bit more important than anything you or I could do musically! And btw, you are a pickin' fool! I was riding down the road the other night and got some cassettes out of where we had played together with Sec and Willis! Remember the Florida trip? FUNNY stuff! Have a great day Larry and thank you again for all your kindness and your musical cotributions!
Ron
JamesTanglewylde - Posted - 10/07/2010: 14:10:13
I have to add that although I've always loved and appreciated Earls playing, the definitive moment when I first realized what a genius he was came when I really listened to his back up on the the Foggy Mt Banjo album. All these years later, and I'm still blown away at his innovativeness! His phrasing, tone and technique on those songs was and still is amazing and revolutionary! It is nothing short of mastery!
Thanks and respect to Mr Scruggs
Luke
ambpicker - Posted - 10/07/2010: 15:58:02
To say this thread is a flop is an understatement.
Yet I have learned a lot from it, but it was in the responses to the thread, not the premise of the thread itself, which again was a flop.
To me, life itself is kind of like that.
There is a lot of good in my life, my family, my profession, the things I've learned in 51 years on this earth, even a few material possessions.
But I can't think of any of the good things that can not trace their roots back to something that was a negative.
It just got turned around into something good.
The KIDD - Posted - 10/07/2010: 16:12:40
I guess you had to be a part of the other thread to really understand THIS one and its purpose. This thread JOHN B started was about OTHERS , not SB.,,and BOY, yeah BUDDY, I learn ALOT myself. Best post since sliced bread!
THRRREAD I mean..See .. Now I rhymeded.
Edited by - The KIDD on 10/07/2010 16:18:54
dflowers - Posted - 10/07/2010: 16:15:10
I feel a closer kinship with you fellas and I admire the way you have stood up for your friend. Shows a lot of class, my friends. There is an old saying: "You never stand so tall as when you stoop to help a child". Some of you folks have stooped to help a wonderful guy who gave his all in his chosen profession. I admire the BG community so much more now, knowing that there is still "True Grit" alive and well. Sincerely, Don
Banjophobic - Posted - 10/07/2010: 17:00:17
I started this thread to see if others felt as I did, about Earl being slightly and dumped on in the past few month, here on the Hangout. Its apparent to me now, how polarizing a topic this has been. Folks who support Earl have shown their colors. Folks who dont like him have made their statements. Folks who seem to have been carrying large chips on their shoulder about Earl for some reason, have been able to pull their sleeves off and expose it.. Emotions were released in all camps. It was heated but I think its good and beneficial, sometimes, to get stuff off our 'chests' on forums. Someone said the thread was a 'flop'. Maybe it was to some, but not in my view. Thanks to everyone, on all sides, for giving their inputs....except the trolls. You know what you can do.
Edited by - Banjophobic on 10/07/2010 17:04:59
Kenneth Logsdon - Posted - 10/07/2010: 17:04:35
Yept... Its just showing what we call "bigheaded iggnorance".. Kinda like a kid just got a drivers permit and trying to tell an Indy driver how and what their doing wrong..
Their just making a fool out of theirself and don't understand or realize how many and why everyone is laughing at them...
banjoez - Posted - 10/07/2010: 20:45:34
Not to keep beating a dead and decaying horse but if anything, this thread seems to prove that there are still some uninformed people out there that just haven't taken the time to REALLY study and understand what Earl brought to the table. Many less serious players just scratch the surface by not opening their ears to the nuances of his playing. Yes, there were some tired sounding albums produced towards the end of F&S and Earl stated in an interview after he parted ways with Lester that he was tired of playing the same thing over and over again. Can't fault him for that. His playing with the Revue and others after that was still pretty interesting. Listen to Nashville Skyline Rag.
All it takes is a good listen to F&S in their prime in the 50's and early 60's to appreciate how innovative and exciting their music was, especially Earl's playing. It's been said over and over again in this thread, NO ONE has ever matched his clarity, tone and syncopation and complex tasteful backup. NO ONE in the last 60 years anyway. Earl Scruggs was the innovator who developed a style to fit the need of a new and exciting type of music. He is the pure musician. God Bless him.
Edited by - banjoez on 10/08/2010 13:26:50
fgodbey - Posted - 10/07/2010: 22:42:51
Years ago a young up and coming banjo player (you'd know his name if I mentioned it) said to me, "Well, I've learned all of Earl's stuff; now I'm going to add my own ideas to the banjo."
He has, indeed, added much to the literature, but the sad thing was that he didn't realize how wrong he was... unless he had listened to every recording, every radio show, every TV appearance and attended every live performance, there's no way he could even have HEARD all of Earl's stuff, let alone learned it.
Earl was my inspiration to play. I have studied everything I could find, but I still cannot play most of the things I hear; and every time I listen to "Foggy Mountain Banjo" I hear something that causes me to wonder to myself, "Where the heck did THAT come from!?" So, I content myself with approximations & strive for the sense & the tone...
Oh well. It's late. Y'all have a great weekend!
--Frank
KLandreth - Posted - 10/08/2010: 08:51:48
quote:
Originally posted by fgodbey
... strive for the sense & the tone...
--Frank
From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 10/08/2010: 09:46:02
John,
There have been so many good things to come out of this thread. One of them that hits me hard after hearing the testimonies of so many outstanding players is the need to listen with much more intensity and then to repeat listening again. Is there something in my memory about someone saying repeat1000x!
.
Maybe an unexpected benefit (& no credit meant to SB here) of having the foundation and basics challenged is to have these foundations brought back to the forefront with detailed articulation and energy?
Thanks to so many for sharing their insights.
Ken
JohnTheWhite - Posted - 10/08/2010: 09:49:26
quote:
Originally posted by kipperrquote:
Originally posted by JohnTheWhite
Ever wonder why Texas Swing music effectively bans the banjo and the Martin Guitar?
I'll bite, why? Excuse my ignorance, but I've always wondered about this. Although there was some banjo in Texas Swing, it was strummed, not rolled.
ambpicker - Posted - 10/08/2010: 12:45:21
I strongly agree with everything good said about Earl, and I wish I had the eloquence to add even more.
"Country music might have been saved from oblivion when rock came, because of Earl Scruggs."
I never thought I would say THIS, but that MIGHT be giving Earl a little bit too much credit. It's food for thought though.
larry p - Posted - 10/08/2010: 16:57:59
Thanks Ron! yes sir, those were some great days picking with you in the 'Curly Seckler, Willis Spear & The Nashville Grass' band: sure would Love to hear some of those tapes you have of some of those old shows! By the way, we've got a new CD out I'd Love to share with you-if you would send me a private message with you mailing address we'll get it right out to you.
Come see me if you ever get to Nashville with a little extra time for a visit! Dan Tyminski was over the other day and saying some mighty nice things about you and your work together and those new signature model 'Yates' banjos. I'd Love to see you and check out your new banjo some of these days..Let me know a bit in advance if you can do something like that, and we'll get in another visit with Earl. He'd like that I know..
mike gregory - Posted - 10/09/2010: 05:58:58
Anti-Earl, Auntie Em, antiaircraft, antipasto, antimony....
I think it's time for me to lick the top of a battery,
just for a taste of something positive!
And a load of thanks to Mr. E. Scruggs, Mr. P. Seeger, and Mr. D. Guard, for getting me interested in banjo in the first place, a bit more than a half century ago.
mullie1 - Posted - 10/09/2010: 20:33:31
quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
If you let them get way with enough anti Earl, next thing you know, they're going after aunti Em!
And you can tell by her frown, she doesn't think we should be paying that guy any attention a-tall!
Umm, would the Number of the AntiEarl be banjo related, like three strokes on the high G?
5-5-5!
mullie1 - Posted - 10/09/2010: 20:39:45
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Dress
"But if that guy can climb in there, run laps at 200 and handle that car, I know he is speaking from true knowledge and experience and I will pay attention to what he says." -- banjophobic
I hate to step in again because I don't like my leg getting chewed and slobbered, BUT ...
... let's just imagine that SB posts a sound file that sounds better than Sonny O in his prime, would that make you agree with his claim that Earl sucks? Of course not (I'll answer for you).
I think Mike is just trying to keep it real. SB must be laughing at the sight of us degenerating into a cannibal food fight.
1935tb-11 - Posted - 10/10/2010: 04:09:49
hell i am just glad folks like ron, john boulding, eric ellis and larry p , post on here with us.
at least it gives credibility to the opinions we have about earl and his contributions
our music and instrument we love so.
i'll never play at the level these guys do but my passion and love for the banjo is
as strong as ever and i have earl (foggy mtn. banjo) and guys like these to thank
for this obsession. the best thing is i have met and made many friends down through
the years because of the banjo and no uninformed self centered idiot can change that!
terry m
n.c.
Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 10/10/2010 04:11:53
Tam_Zeb - Posted - 10/10/2010: 09:05:41
quote:
Originally posted by minstrelmikequote:
Originally posted by stringbreakerquote:
Originally posted by minstrelmike
I'm sure Ron's post settled everything.
it settled nothing. why do you assume, because of his credentials.
how about a list of scruggs material from 1970's onward that are played by banjo community, that feature good songwriting? shouldnt be hard. thats 40 years btw
I was teasing. I have no idea who Ron Stewart is. I was regurgitating the xkcd comic where the girl was trying to get the guy to come to bed but he was furiously typing saying, "In a minute. Someone on the internet is wrong."
Edited by - Tam_Zeb on 10/10/2010 10:36:50
stringbreaker - Posted - 10/10/2010: 11:17:04
mike you have to know who ron stewart is or they wont take you serious. post some playing scruggs style note for note. if you cant you will get mobbed for having an opinion. 12 pages and still no list of material after 1970. original songs please? examples of ground breaking licks that he wasnt playing in 1950? still waiting.
Edited by - stringbreaker on 10/10/2010 11:30:15
stringbreaker - Posted - 10/10/2010: 11:22:41
here are some everyone should learn after foggy mt breakdown.
youtube.com/watch?v=N26Qy0g1RRk
youtube.com/watch?v=CjCYS5fAOtE
youtube.com/watch?v=l7g1IKKYCUk
Edited by - stringbreaker on 10/10/2010 11:35:27
1935tb-11 - Posted - 10/10/2010: 11:55:01
by 1970 earl was 30 years of being the treadmill for all others after
him were jumping on, he had nothing else to prove and still doesn't.
the only thing i hate is i wasn't 16 years old in 1946 when it all hit the fan
and started learning right then, and even then i would not have been
around long enough to absorb all earl has layed out for the rest of us.
terry m
n.c.
quickmill - Posted - 10/10/2010: 13:01:55
You Know, I'm not sure I can name ANY major artist who is known for their accomplishments 25-30 years into their career. Most people don't even have a 25 year career. Johnny Cash is the only person I can think of off the top of my head. Even then, it was following a long drought.
Even if Earl sucked after 1970 (which he did not), who earned the right more than he? There's no major Beatles accomplishments at 25 yrs. into their careers. I don't think Dylan will be remembered for anything that late. Neil Young, Burt Bacharach, Muddy Waters, Modern Jazz Quartet, Ella Fitzgerald, and Frank Sinatra's best work is behind them by 20 years in. Are all these people's contributions to music history null and void? A lot of bands/artists suck from the beginning of their careers. I'm glad some people make 10-20 years of great memorable music before the suckage begins. Earl's "Revue" music may not be great but I find myself still listening to it on occasion. There's much worse out there.
By the way, I don't like Led Zeppelin. I don't like their musical choices on almost any level. Does that make them bad musicians? I don't like the tone of Robert Plant's voice. Does that mean he can't sing? The argument has been made that they stole a lot of their material and I find them quite repetitive. This argument (YOUR argument) can and has been made about nearly everyone in music history. Even though I don't like them, I think they were much more than these negative comments would indicate. I would have to be pretty bored indeed to go on the Zeppelin forums and try to enlighten all those poor fans who enjoy their music. Bored or an idiot.
From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 10/10/2010: 13:20:25
Rodney,
As a point of conversation Bill Monroe stayed pretty creative well past the 25-30 year mark of his career.
Ken
minstrelmike - Posted - 10/10/2010: 13:26:34
I rarely give advice; I give explanations so folks can understand why things work and don't work in whatever context they wish to use them in.
But there is a significant group of people who read their own interpretations into posts and no matter what sorts of explanatory information you provide, they understand nothing.
And more explanations don't help.
sideways - Posted - 10/10/2010: 14:50:42
Hey stringbreaker, thanks for the youtube links. It reminded me of just how well Earl incorporated his banjo style into all different types of music. Flawless isn't he. I'm so excited I'm digging out all of my old Earl CD's and LP's where Earl wasn't playing quite so "traditional". So far, I've found the ones with Elton John, Sting, Melissa Etridge, John Fogerty, Johhny Cash, Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, The Byrds, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Steve Martin and on and on and on. You get the picture. Thanks again. I had forgotten just how innovative he was (is). He's THE MAN! OH BOY, just found some Vassar and Doc and Earl. Gotta go do some more diggin'. Thanks
Tam_Zeb - Posted - 10/10/2010: 14:59:59
quote:
Originally posted by minstrelmike
I rarely give advice;
larry p - Posted - 10/10/2010: 15:53:21
I cited a few examples of how Earl has continued to grow and expand since 1970. Aside from his groundbreaking work with the 'Nitty Gritty Dirt Band' and the 'Will The Circle Be Unbroken' album and through the 'Earl Scruggs Revue',here's a few examples;
'Nashville Rock'. Earl plays a wise range of material in this album, showing how 'Scruggs Style' can work within just about any musical context.
On one of the 'Revue's' 'Anniversary' albums, that's loaded with some spectacular talent-Ear; stretches out and does some incredible work on tunes like Billy Joel's 'Traveler's Prayer', and one cut in particular that features Tracy Nelson, 'Motherless Child Blues', Earl plays some absolutely awesome blues on the banjo that's full of licks and an approach never heard in any recording of his previous work. On his album with Tom T. Hall, 'The Story Teller and the Banjo Man' (one of my personal favorites) check out his approach to 'Roll In My Sweet Baby's Arms', and 'No Expectations' is chocked full of unprecedented 'licks'.
More recently, his last studio album 'Earl Scruggs and Friends' is full of new ideas and approaches to 'Scruggs Style', and as previously mentioned, his 'Live At The Ryman', an 84-85 year old Earl Scruggs is taking breaks on songs that most banjo players would shy away from, and wearing it out.
I'm not trying to convince someone who doesn't want to be (or wont be) convinced of the validity of Earl's contributions to the musical fabric of our universe since 1950 or 1970-just citing examples that I'm aware of that show beyond doubt that Earl has NEVER stopped growing as an artist. He's been a close, personal friend of mine since 1977. He and Louise were my landlords for over 12 years-and during that time I was blessed to spend many a happy hour picking with Earl at my house, his house, Sonny Osborne's, Bashful Brother Oswald's, Little Roy Lewis's, Lizzy Long's, and John Hartford's house. I lived with him for a little over two years recently, and have personally witnessed with wonder that he's ALWAYS coming up with something new and exciting. Although he IS Earl Scruggs, and could have easily started resting on his laurels years before most of us were even born, I've noticed one constant with him that continues to make him 'great' and noteworthy; he ALWAYS exhibits an amazing amount of flexibility and commitment to compliment whatever someone else is doing, whether it be a singer or another musician. Even with his own tunes, which he could well insist on strictly playing 'his way', he shapes them to fit in with whoever he's playing with 'in the moment'. You can easily hear this in 'Foggy Mountain Breakdown', for example; his approach to it with Benny Simms on the fiddle back in 1948 is different than the way it sounds on the radio shows with Benny Martin, and that approach changed with 'Uncle Josh' on the Dobro and Paul Warren on fiddle. It changed when you hear it with Vassar Clemments and 'The Revue', and more when you hear it with Paul Shaffer and Leon Russell on the latest studio recording. They ALL are unmistakably 'Earl', and all are a bit different, obviously, in my mind at least-to show how Earl REALLY plays with whoever he's with in a given moment.
quickmill - Posted - 10/10/2010: 16:02:01
quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
Rodney,
As a point of conversation Bill Monroe stayed pretty creative well past the 25-30 year mark of his career.
Ken
Gymbal31 - Posted - 10/10/2010: 16:35:27
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
Sunday, September 19, 2010 @2:10:26 PM
47 comments and not one person has offered any proof that what i say is wrong. im still waiting for someone to tell me one tune earl wrote that wasnt just a bunch of licks with no melody. or show me that he didnt play the same licks for 40 years.
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 @10:15:57 PM
ive been kind enuff to allow you all to voice your opinions, if you dont add anything to question of what songs he wrote that had nice melodies, how he progressed after 1950, then its deleted.
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
Monday, September 20, 2010 @1:50:24 PM
here are some songs that are just licks-foggy mt breakdown, flint hill special, shucking the corn, pike county breakdown. all licks no melody.
buy the earl scruggs book, look at the same licks in all the songs. when youve played longer than since 2009 youll realize this.
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
10/5/2010 7:07:28 PM
i didnt say anything about my playing or composing. im addressing earls. i dont need to play to have a discussion about a mans music.
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
10/6/2010 10:14:23 PM
i never said earl didnt play melody. he didn't play down the road or hot corn without playing the melody. i already knew that. i never said copying others licks was bad.
i said the material he wrote was mostly mediocre, repetitve and a bunch of licks thrown together. and he didnt invent the stuff everyone gives him credit for.
quote:
stringbreaker Says:
Friday, September 03, 2010 @10:08:09 AM
earl played the same licks for 50 years with no growth. and wrote very little. what he did write had no melody.
stringbreaker - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:09:47
there was nothing remarkable in those videos i posted. same boring licks. almost nothing not in the earl scruggs banjo book or on foggy mt banjo.
the difference in most of musicians listed were they didnt play same stuff for 50 years and have a banjo forum named scruggs style like he invented the stuff. dont hear of muddy waters style guitar or sinatra style like they invented blues guitar and pop singing.
Edited by - stringbreaker on 10/10/2010 17:14:21
stringbreaker - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:13:32
quote:
Originally posted by quickmillquote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
Rodney,
As a point of conversation Bill Monroe stayed pretty creative well past the 25-30 year mark of his career.
Ken
Ken,
It wasn't my point to debate who has or hasn't weathered the 30 year mark. My point is simply that even if someone does "burn out" at some point after creating a respectable body of work, It doesn't diminish that body of work. Regardless of what one thinks of Earl or Bill's later career, the early catalogs are almost universally praised.
That being said, thanks for the tip. I'll keep it in mind for future listening as I've really only heard up to 1960 at this point.
Edited by - stringbreaker on 10/10/2010 17:20:11
kipperr - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:24:19
quote:
Originally posted by stringbreaker
the difference in most of musicians listed were they didnt play same stuff for 50 years and have a banjo forum named scruggs style like he invented the stuff.
stringbreaker - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:26:54
no "American Made - World Played" aint no part of nothing. yes you are right, youve been playing a year. thats plenty of time to learn all of earls licks.
Flying Eagle - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:33:54
quote:
Originally posted by minstrelmike
I was teasing. I have no idea who Ron Stewart is. I was regurgitating the xkcd comic where the girl was trying to get the guy to come to bed but he was furiously typing saying, "In a minute. Someone on the internet is wrong."
jethrobodine - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:39:20
When my kids start to argue about something, I tell them that each needs to accept the fact that each has their opinion and the other will not see it their way. After each one's opinion has been stated there is no point to continue to state each one's opinion over and over. That would be called arguing. That is what you, Stringbreaker, are doing along with some others.
You just spew the same few lines over and over. How many times are you going regurgitate this same old tired crap? Everyone knows you hate Earl Scruggs. I understand that and most others do also.
You are a hack and a troll. The sooner the moderators or Eric himself puts a stop to you and this subject the better this forum will be.
Flying Eagle - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:39:55
Expert/Professional, huh Bill? Come on man, prove it. Post some soundfiles. You've got a controversial point of view. Proof that you're actually a competent musician would lend a bit of credibility to your opinions. Do you really consider that to be an unreasonable request? If you're at the "Expert/Professional" level, surely there MUST be some youtube video of you out there somewhere, or something on a website that we can see. Why not, man? What's the problem?
JW
larry p - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:46:45
Sure, there were a few people were playing '3 finger style' banjo before Earl Scruggs, but NO ONE was playing 'Scruggs Style' before Earl Scruggs. 'American Made-World Played' is an awesome album. No one, I don't care how talented they might be, can learn all of Earl Scruggs licks in a years time-I've never met anyone who can play ALL of Earl's licks, and I've been blessed to meet many great players that have been studying his work for years.
It's my honest, humble opinion that there has never been a musician or vocalist in any genre of music that has been as influential on a given instrument as Earl Scruggs is with his banjo. Innumerable industries have sprung up related to Earl's music and innovations; musicians, festivals, banjo builders, capo makers, tone ring makers, pick manufacturers, instructional CD and DVD companies, websites like 'The Banjo Hangout'-the list goes on and on. Stringbreaker-if Earl Scruggs doesn't inspire and influence you, then I hope with all my heart that you'll find someone in your musical journey that will inspire, challenge, influence, and encourage you like Earl Scruggs has me, and evidently many others.
Gymbal31 - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:47:15
quote:
Originally posted by stringbreaker
no "American Made - World Played" aint no part of nothing. yes you are right, youve been playing a year. thats plenty of time to learn all of earls licks.
Ebanjo - Posted - 10/10/2010: 17:59:25
Stringbreaker, You are just a trouble maker. You may have an opinion, but it's not very well informed.
Eric Ellis
Richard Dress - Posted - 10/10/2010: 18:17:03
These personal attacks are just what SB is hoping for. Does somebody have to know who RS is, just to give an opinion? Come on. Please bring the thread back to some kind of sanity. One doesn't have to know every banjo player in the world or be an accredited banjo picker to give a valid opinion. All this tearing people down is just what SB is hoping for.
Minstrelmike never gives bad advice, in fact his help is not only well thought out but it is completely disinterested. He's not flogging anybody's product; he's not out looking for students; he's not running a music business; he just helps people, mostly beginners. He doesn't post often, but when he does, it's always a valuable addition. He knows what he's talking about. In short, he is a valuable contributor and HO member. Is chasing him off good for BHO? The answer is no. SB posted some stupid opinions. So what, he didn't damage the HO--we can handle silliness. The personal attacks for no cause do hurt the community. So who are the bad guys here, then?
John started an interesting thread and he has been trying to keep it going as a positive exploration of SB's nonsense. He had the good sense to drop out before it hit bottom. There are a few posters on these pages who have given SB some great knockout punches, but all that gets lost in the turmoil and noise.
I don't want to stir up the muck again, but I can't abide these personal attacks based on nonsense that is worse BS than what SB is feeding us. Please calm down and think a little bit before hitting the reply button. No more personal attacks, please--it's just a way of admitting you are outmatched intellectually, it makes SB chuckle, and it diminishes the sense of community that Eric has worked so hard to nurture.
quickmill - Posted - 10/10/2010: 18:26:33
quote:
Originally posted by stringbreaker
steve davis - Posted - 10/10/2010: 18:27:48
thebluegrassblog.com/earl-scru...my-award/
"...perfect timing,tone and appropriateness of every note."
I was never going to post on this,again,but I'm weak,I guess.
Edited by - steve davis on 10/10/2010 18:37:04
From Greylock to Bean Blossom - Posted - 10/10/2010: 18:34:10
Gentlemen,
It is regrettable that we have all gone though so much angst because of some of the trash on this thread. I thought after Ron Stewarts definitive statements regarding “Stringbreaker’s” lack of creditability as evidenced by his erroneous and ill-informed statements that Stringfaker would be disregarded. I could not believe when Stringfaker's comments stared this up again. Banjophobic posted a thread “Trouble makers and identity” under the Banjo Hangout Website Improvements/suggestions forum. Several pages of conversation resulted and the recommended remedy there was same as was recommended here earlier in this thread.
The suggested best way to deal with these people is to ignore them. I would suggest that when confronted with this type who are disrespectful and whose only hopes is to disrupt and argue (not discuss) that we do as Kipperr has tired to do: That is just say TROLL on the web site, ignore them, and keep the good conversation going. Making comments about their inflammatory posts gives them the only significance they can hope to have.
That being said I have to thank the stringfaker for posting some “Classic” Earl (classic means songs and playing that stand the test of time). While I like bluegrass better than Waylon Jennings I thought Earl’s back-up with him sounded great and I have never heard Billy Ray Cyrus sound better than when he sang “Roll in My Sweet Baby’s Arms”- again with Mr. Scruggs. It was also good to hear Classic Earl with Vassar Cements, Stewart Duncan, and Kenny Arnoff (a great drummer who was with John Mellancamp for a long time).
I hope we can all learn to ignore this guy and others like him as there are too many good people to deal with and too many good thoughts to share at the hangout.
Thanks for your consideration,
Ken
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