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Grey Dog - Posted - 01/07/2011:  18:12:43


Gomer's got coffee and a dictionary....All be warned!!

dmiller - Posted - 01/07/2011:  19:51:46


quote:
Originally posted by Gomer
Think of Tom Cruise jumping all over Katy Couric's couch screaming out how much he loves Kate Hudson. Now imagine a middle-aged overweight grey-haired lawyer, holding his new Tenbrooks, jumping on the same couch while screaming to the world how happy he is about it. I realize it's a digusting comparision, yet there are many similarities. Maybe if I woke up everyday saying Good Morning to Kate Hudson, I might feel differently.



Decisions, decisions, decisions! Life is SO unfair!


Rindill - Posted - 01/07/2011:  23:17:33


I'll take that one one the left!!, hands down! - the "hair" may be sparser and stringier, - but I love well configured pot-bellies! Besides - it already comes with a ring, so I don't have to buy him/her one - LOl!

Gomer - Posted - 01/08/2011:  07:41:30


Good Lord. . all this imagagery and the words of the lovely Miss Roxy have diverted my focus from the question of the size of the truss rod cover on the Tenbrooks. I have spoken to several who make them custom and they advise that size does matter.

Scanbran - Posted - 01/08/2011:  08:15:47


quote:
Originally posted by Gomer
size does matter.




I knew it!!!


Edited by - Scanbran on 01/08/2011 08:16:20

Janet Deering - Posted - 01/11/2011:  09:32:41



I was just on Janet Davis' website looking for a new Paige capo and there was a disclaimer stating not for use on Deering. I'm currently using a Paige capo on my Golden Era, is this something I should be concerned with and if so which capo is recommended for Deering.


Janet Davis' comment on her website needs to be removed. We reshaped our necks so that the Paige Capos work just fine with newer Deerings. This was done a couple of years ago. I'll let her know.

Thanks for mentioning that to me.

Janet Deering - Posted - 01/11/2011:  09:36:31


You guys are really funny! The size really does matter. Yes, and in many ways!

I'm getting ready for the NAMM Music Trade Show so if I don't get to all the questions, I'll get back when I can.

We will have our Deering Exhibit in Hall E at the Anaheim Convention Center Thursday Jan 13th through Sunday Jan 16th. It's a music industry only show. I'll be back in touch next week.

Rindill - Posted - 01/11/2011:  16:05:31


I used to make the Namm shows in LA decades ago - how I miss them!

jwgreene01 - Posted - 01/16/2011:  09:27:15


quote:
Originally posted by Gomer

a grey-haired lawyer,



You know Gomer admitting it is the 1st step to recovery! LOL Enjoy your Tenbrooks.

yardsale - Posted - 01/18/2011:  20:55:13


Janet - thank you for taking the time to answer questions! I am a guitar player but brand new to the world of playing banjo, inspired by many of the bands I listen to (mostly Avett Brothers and Old Crow Medicine Show), and I'm looking into buying a Deering Goodtime. I've been trying to decide between the open-back Goodtime and the Goodtime II. I'd like to learn bluegrass style, and I know that typically the resonators are preferred for this, but the OB Goodtime is a little more in my price range, and I think that the fact it is quieter will be better for when I'm learning.

On the other hand, I'm concerned that once I get decent enough to play with some of my friends, I'll wish I got the Goodtime II. Can you speak on this? Just how quiet is the OB Goodtime? Does it matter if I learn to play bluegrass style on an open-back banjo? Any other words of advice? Thank you!

JLB - Posted - 01/20/2011:  10:14:46


yardsale here's a clip of Mean Mary playing a standard GT, no resonator. Seems to stand up to at least one guitar.

youtube.com/watch?v=s_1DQi_P9MI

capsholler - Posted - 01/20/2011:  14:08:58


Mean Mary really shows off the capability of a Goodtime open back. I put an ez-res on mine and it really brought up the sound even more. I'd like to see Deering sign her on as an endorser and player of the Goodtime banjo. I think she deserves something for all the good she has done for Deering.

DrG - Posted - 01/21/2011:  05:29:32


Hello capsholler,
I think your right about Mean Mary, she is one heck of a banjo player and would be an excellent choice for Deering to use for promotion!

Janet, I hope Deering considers it.


Edited by - DrG on 01/21/2011 05:30:03

Gomer - Posted - 01/21/2011:  07:26:08


I think she would be less mean if she were playing a Gabriella.

Doctor? What brings a Stelling man to the Deering page? Perhaps a little curious about the Tenbrooks? Yes. Perhaps it is true.


Edited by - Gomer on 01/21/2011 07:53:05

DrG - Posted - 01/21/2011:  08:28:48


Hello Gomer and Janet,
I have to admit that Tenbrooks is a very special sounding banjo, with the 06 tonering or the Swiss tonering. I didn't know much about Deering banjos until after I saw Mean Mary on utube...she has great style and was playing a Deering. Deering has an excellent customer satisfaction too, I am impressed with their top of the line banjos. I will be looking forward to hearing a Deering Tenbrooks in person before selecting my One-Man-Banjo. Now remember what I said Gomer, you be faithful to that beautiful new Deering Saratoga Star or she may decide to be in someone else's arms who will treat her like the Queen she is!

Pablo9364 - Posted - 01/22/2011:  06:43:41


Hi Janet
I'm a little confused by your catalog and the different ranges of banjo's. Don't know if you answered this already on here there's so much but :

MAde in USA sounds great. What parts of the banjo's are made by you in house and what parts are outsourced? Does this ratio differ with certain more expensive ranges? I am looking for a perfect musical instrument made with precision and not a jumble of imported parts. How far do you go to ensure high quality and precision? If I was convinced this was the case I would go out and buy one. I don't believe a lot of what I read in ALL the banjo makers/resellers adverts and catologs. (because of some negative experience with other brands)
Paul

capsholler - Posted - 01/22/2011:  12:43:29


Maybe the Goodtime OB give's Mean Mary the Mean Mary look! She certainly proves that humble little Goodtime is up to the task of anything she can throw at it.

peanutroad - Posted - 01/23/2011:  06:20:24


Going by Mary's blog and twitter comments, it appears she does have some sort of endorsement deal in the works with Deering.

mountainbanjer - Posted - 01/26/2011:  06:18:55


Darrell Sanders just made the news for playing his Golden Era since '86. Apparently they hold up well.

cybergrass.com/modules.php?nam...&sid=8431

Gomer - Posted - 01/26/2011:  07:23:36


Did I mention that I bought myself a Saratoga Tenbrooks for Christmas? In thinking about that decision this month, comparing it to the ties and golf shirts, I am thinking that the banjo was a pretty solid idea.

JLB - Posted - 01/26/2011:  14:42:40


Although you'd look pretty silly walking the links with that Saratoga Tenbrooks.

Gomer - Posted - 01/26/2011:  21:24:12


I look pretty silly on the links without a Saratoga Tenbrooks

otterpop - Posted - 01/30/2011:  16:44:19


quote:
Originally posted by yardsale

've been trying to decide between the open-back Goodtime and the Goodtime II. I'd like to learn bluegrass style, and I know that typically the resonators are preferred for this



My vote would be splurge now for the II and get a mute. If you dont plan on buying a banjo for a while and want to play with others, you'll need the resonator for volume.

Dont learn how to play quietly, learn to play loud and punchy. This way you are trying to pick the strings evenly.

I try and play quiet too, but i'm going to get a mute instead of picking softly.

Gomer - Posted - 01/31/2011:  06:52:07


I think that you ought to think about how to buy a banjo the same way as you ought to tithe at church. First figure out what is the max you can afford, then double that and then add 10%. That'll get you where you need to be. I think that is the Boston if you are interested.

Cuzzin Donny - Posted - 01/31/2011:  15:53:23


Please tell me whats the differents is between your 20-hole flathead tong ring and the rest of the 20 hole flatheads. Im confused.Now I know they would sound different with other set ups.rims etc. But is a 20 hole a 20 hole flathead? Is the one in my Maple blossom 79-82 the same as the ones now? Is it the same one as in another brand of banjo. Is it the same mix of metal as others ??? Please straighten me out.


Edited by - Cuzzin Donny on 01/31/2011 15:56:07

EggSalad - Posted - 02/03/2011:  13:33:18


Janet,

You guys make an incredible instrument. I bought my Deering Deluxe several months ago, and it just keeps sounding better each week.

montanamike - Posted - 02/03/2011:  14:06:51


Hi,

I was wondering if you all would be at WinterGrass this year and if so if you would be doing any classes etc for Deering fans who are low on experience and long on trying to close the learning gap with all these fine pickin kids?

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  14:18:53


No, we won't have a display at Wintergrass this year. But you will probably see Dusty Strings there with a display of Deering banjos. They are located in Seattle and they do a great job representing us and selling Deering banjos and giving great service.

Have fun at this wonderful festival.

montanamike - Posted - 02/03/2011:  14:20:40


They do a super job....

The shop up in Port Townsend does as well...

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  15:16:02


Janet,

You guys make an incredible instrument. I bought my Deering Deluxe several months ago, and it just keeps sounding better each week.


Thanks. I'm glad that you are enjoying your new Deering banjo. A new banjo is just discovering that it is a banjo. Just think, a few months ago it was a piece of raw wood!

It's true that the more you play it the better it sounds. It's still waking up, and the sound becomes even more alive as it is played and the notes vibrate through it.

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  15:24:58


I've been away for a few weeks, so I'm catching up with you all here.....

We had great success at the NAMM Show ( National Association of Musical Merchants trade show) in Anaheim last month and then a few days after the show Greg and I went camping in Baja, Mexico with Bob Taylor and friends. I took this time off to read Bob's new book, Guitar Lessons. This book wwas released at the NAMM Show with a display by Barnes & Noble and Bob Taylor signed lot's of copies.

I read the entire book on our camping trip, we had a great time, made some wonderful music and enjoyed warm weather camping on the beaches. We all started out in business as young adults together so he mentions Greg a few times.

If you want to enjoy a fun read pick up a copy of Guitar Lessons. It's got some great stores and good lessons learned along the way.

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  15:32:41


Please tell me whats the differents is between your 20-hole flathead tong ring and the rest of the 20 hole flatheads. Im confused.Now I know they would sound different with other set ups.rims etc. But is a 20 hole a 20 hole flathead? Is the one in my Maple blossom 79-82 the same as the ones now? Is it the same one as in another brand of banjo. Is it the same mix of metal as others ??? Please straighten me out.

Our tone rings are made to our own specifications. They are not the same as the tone ring you might get from any other builder. No, a 20 hole is not a 20 hole flat head - they are not all the same and they are not all equal. Some are made from inferior metal and just look like the others....I won't say where those come from.

The tone ring in our Maple Blossom from 79 - 82 is not the same as the ones we make now. It is not the same as one in another brand of banjo. It is not the same mix of metal as others.

While what you have in your Maple Blossom has a lot of integrity and produces a quality tone. We have done a considerable amount of research and development on our tone rings over the years. The new ones are are not the same as what you have.

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  15:48:38


I've been trying to decide between the open-back Goodtime and the Goodtime II. I'd like to learn bluegrass style, and I know that typically the resonators are preferred for this, but the OB Goodtime is a little more in my price range, and I think that the fact it is quieter will be better for when I'm learning.

On the other hand, I'm concerned that once I get decent enough to play with some of my friends, I'll wish I got the Goodtime II. Can you speak on this? Just how quiet is the OB Goodtime? Does it matter if I learn to play bluegrass style on an open-back banjo? Any other words of advice? Thank you!


No, it doesn't matter if you learn to play bluegrass style on an open-back banjo. You can play any style you like on either type of banjo. If you decide to start with a Goodtime open-back banjo you can order a resonator kit when you are ready to add the resonator and put it onto the banjo you have when you are ready. So go ahead with what you can afford and then get the resonator from us when you are ready. There are no hard fast rules of what style has to be played on what kind banjo. Go for it.

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/03/2011:  15:52:26


Did I mention that I bought myself a Saratoga Tenbrooks for Christmas? In thinking about that decision this month, comparing it to the ties and golf shirts, I am thinking that the banjo was a pretty solid idea.

We had fun getting your banjo done and to you before Christmas break. We all felt like Santa's helpers. I think you made a great choice and I hope your holiday was filled with beautiful music.


raharris - Posted - 02/03/2011:  17:57:58


Last night the Carolina Chocolate Drops introduced a new member of the band, Hubby's Jenkins. The program listed him as playing guitar and mandolin, but he also played the 5-string on one tune.
Mandolin -- 1930's National resonator
Guitar -- 12-fret parlor, perhaps a Stella, looked like '40s
Banjo -- standard Deering Goodtime openback

RAH

Cessna172 - Posted - 02/04/2011:  09:25:43


Great to have you back Janet! Trust you are refreshed and ready for a busy and prosperous year!

Gary

Gomer - Posted - 02/09/2011:  07:58:21


With about a gazilion hours on my Saratoga, I am amazed to report that the voice of the piece seems to keep improving. My instructor ARAU the Vicious thusly commented last night in the presence of a new student upon which he had forced a new Goodtimes. I bought my Hartford brand new and was expecting the Play-in but the tenbrooks seems to have the same thing happening.
It's pretty dramatic. At this rate I will be able to make wine glasses shatter by Valentine's Day.

gdoc - Posted - 02/11/2011:  19:23:10


At the festival near Victorville (Apple Valley?) mid June, will you have a John Hartford banjo with you? Hopefully one that has been played some. I think I remember the dates and place from your news letter.

Janet Deering - Posted - 02/12/2011:  12:07:59


Yes, Gary. I'm refreshed and ready for a busy prosperous year. Thanks.

I leave for Folk Alliance Conference in Memphis on Tuesday. Jens Kruger produced Si Kahn's award winning CD, and recorded the banjo parts with his signature model.
The Kruger Brothers are performing on the Folk Alliance Awards Show this week and I'll be there.

Several Deering artists are nominated for Grammy's so this weekend is exciting. Alison Brown played the John Hartford model on the John Hartford String Band album, Bela Fleck played the Saratoga Star on his Throw Down Your Heart additional tracks CD, The Carolina Chocolate Drops played their Deering banjos on their Genuine Negro Jig CD, and other Deering artists listed for Grammy's are Taylor Swift, Zac Brown, Rod Stewart, Alan Jackson, Diamond Rio - I'm not certain if they played their banjos on the projects that are getting awards this year.

This week is an exciting week between the Grammy's and the Folk Alliance awards shows!

Gomer - Posted - 02/13/2011:  21:14:25


Of course you forgot to mention that I played my Saratoga this evening in the upstairs den. The lovely Mrs. commented that she had heard enough for the day and asked me to keep it down.


Edited by - Gomer on 02/13/2011 21:17:24

EggSalad - Posted - 02/14/2011:  07:14:11


quote:
Originally posted by Gomer

With about a gazilion hours on my Saratoga, I am amazed to report that the voice of the piece seems to keep improving. My instructor ARAU the Vicious thusly commented last night in the presence of a new student upon which he had forced a new Goodtimes. I bought my Hartford brand new and was expecting the Play-in but the tenbrooks seems to have the same thing happening.
It's pretty dramatic. At this rate I will be able to make wine glasses shatter by Valentine's Day.



I bought a Deluxe in November, and the slow opening up of the sound is fantastic. Some days I pick it up, and I can notice the change and it is awesome. That is even with my ameteur tinkering on its set up.

Gomer - Posted - 02/14/2011:  21:00:20


quote:
[i]Originally posted by EggSalad. . .. That is even with my ameteur tinkering on its set up.


There is no such thing as amateur tinkering on one's own banjo.

Wardjrz - Posted - 02/17/2011:  13:34:19


Hi

After playing a Rally 35 for just over a year I decided it was time to upgrade and today I have joined the ranks of Deering Owners. Over the last 6 weeks or so I have weighed up a few different options from new banjo's to pre - owned better quality banjo's

It wasn't a massive purchase in the grand scheme of things. Expensive instruments are beyond my level of ability and budget.

I bought a Goodtime Leader "Carolina King" form Eagle Music in Huddersfield.

It has the 2010 tone ring, the usual 3 ply maple rim, planetary tuners and a Jens Kruger string set up. I think it is the top instrument in the Goodtime range

Sounds great to me.

Does anyone else have a Goodtime Leader?
How is it?

John

dmiller - Posted - 02/17/2011:  14:10:45


quote:
Originally posted by Gomer

Of course you forgot to mention that I played my Saratoga this evening in the upstairs den. The lovely Mrs. commented that she had heard enough for the day and asked me to keep it down.


Time for you to "throw in the towel".

Gomer - Posted - 02/17/2011:  18:11:44


Dave that is always a great idea to preserve marital harmony, but I was practicing just in case somebody from the Grammys happened to call.

Scanbran - Posted - 02/18/2011:  14:02:03


quote:
Originally posted by Wardjrz

Hi

After playing a Rally 35 for just over a year I decided it was time to upgrade and today I have joined the ranks of Deering Owners. Over the last 6 weeks or so I have weighed up a few different options from new banjo's to pre - owned better quality banjo's

It wasn't a massive purchase in the grand scheme of things. Expensive instruments are beyond my level of ability and budget.

I bought a Goodtime Leader "Carolina King" form Eagle Music in Huddersfield.

It has the 2010 tone ring, the usual 3 ply maple rim, planetary tuners and a Jens Kruger string set up. I think it is the top instrument in the Goodtime range

Sounds great to me.

Does anyone else have a Goodtime Leader?
How is it?

John




Hi John,

I recently bought the open-back equivalent of your Carolina King from Eagle, which was the Southern Queen.

I love it - it far exceeds my expectations, and instead of being a second or travel banjo for me, it now gets most of my playing time.

Bizdoc - Posted - 02/19/2011:  11:27:17


I have really been enjoying my Eagle II from Deering. Great sound and beautiful. I had it made in Walnut, which is marvelous. Put up a video of Bury be Beneath the Willow to get an idea of the sound and look of the walnut in an Eagle II. I've ended my banjo quest, this is the one I've been looking for.

youtube.com/user/Bizdoc7

Pablo9364 - Posted - 02/21/2011:  02:18:45


Hi Janet
I'm a little confused by your catalog and the different ranges of banjo's. Don't know if you answered this already on here there's so much but :

MAde in USA sounds great. What parts of the banjo's are made by you in house and what parts are outsourced to asia? Does this ratio differ with certain more expensive ranges? I am looking for a perfect musical instrument made with precision and not a jumble of imported parts which do not fit together perfectly. How far do you go to ensure high quality and precision? If I was convinced this was the case I would go out and buy one. I don't believe a lot of what I read in ALL the banjo makers/resellers adverts and catologs. (because of some negative experience with other brands)
Paul

Bob Murphy - Posted - 02/21/2011:  18:07:08


I stopped by my local music shop, McCabes in Santa Monica, to get some thumb picks, and they happened to have an Eagle II in stock. I just happened to have my picks with me!

That is one Awesome sounding banjo! If I didn't already have too many instruments, I would have brought it home with me. I highly recommend anyone in the market for a new banjo, at ANY price point to give it a test drive. Great job on this one Deering.

Bob

Gomer - Posted - 02/22/2011:  06:53:52


quote:
Originally posted by Pablo9364

Hi Janet. . . What parts of the banjo's are made by you in house and what parts are outsourced to asia? . . . .Paul


I don't know about MADE in Asia, but my Saratoga can be HEARDin Asia, and it sounds real nice.

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