Geez, every day's a school day..... I didn't know that ^^ about Grimson.  

One of the players on an intermediate team [bums in the seats were nice, but not a primary concern] had come back from a part-year with a Brandon Jr. "B" team.  He was a solid player, but frequently figured he needed to energize the rest of us. Finally one of our leaders [former Selkirk Steeler] told him, "Smarten up _____ , we can't be killing penalties the whole game."   [.... or something to that effect.  I moved away after that year, but I think the young guy settled down and became a mainstay for quite a few years.]

Well, just another step closer to getting first draft pick & Celebrini…. another kid from North Vancouver..?  wonders never cease!

Yep - busted jaw, as I suspected. Poor kid. Those typically take six weeks or so - be surprised if Chicago doesn't move him to LTIR (fun fact: they've currently got more cap space allocated to LTIR than they do to active players).

And I'm not surprised that Foligno busted a finger explaining to the NJD player that flattened the kid the error of his ways (even though most seem to agree it was a clean hit). Uncle Nick sticks up for his own.

It was a clean hit — maybe the beef was that Bedard was in a vulnerable position and Smith could have eased up a bit…. I know, I know,, that won’t fly in most circles (I’m thinking of friendly sportsmanship, fair play, soft-heartedness, he’s an 18 year-old kid, the toast of the league, the Wirtz family's prize, etc., etc.))

I've watched the replay a few times, and without super-super-super slo-mo analysis it looks to me like Smith was close to stopping his forward movement as he was starting to turn to go back toward the puck heading for the corner.    [Mucho unlike Geekie steamrollering Schindler at the world junior tournament.]

Oh ya, I’m sure that’s what he told Foligno,, “hey, Nick, I was CLOSE to stopping.” Anyway, it was a clean hit,, Smith just doing his job. Bedard is hopefully watching Steven’s’ hit on Lindros that drove the final nail in E’s career ,, KYHU!!

btw, I'll use the flimsy reason that I often hate to hear, "The Canadiens would've lost tonight if it wasn't for their goalie!" , as if the goalie isn't really part of the team

Well, 'twern't me who said, "maybe [...] could have eased up a bit."  It looks to me like Smith did ease up ...  I doubt it was from a sense of friendly sportsmanship, but rather because he had started to change direction.   [But I've been told that I've been wrong before.]

I doubt Smith had much to say, and I expect Foligno wasn't much interested in whether he did or not,  but ya never know... .    As far as Foligno's finger... I generally don't like to see any injuries, but in this case I say, "Serves him right."

Methinks Foligno told Smith “you’re one o’ doze guys who runs around thinkin’ ya own the rink” ..
Tell me Semenko and McSorley didn’t chase down anybody who dared hit Gretzky…

Apparently I missed Smith running around like he owned the place, but I've acknowledged that I don't watch closely.  IF Foligno did say that, and IF he thinks he's the same tier as Semenko, et. al, then my opinion of him has gone down .... but I expect he didn't and he doesn't.  [And I'm sure he's mucho concerned about my opinion re. anything.  ] 

P.S. Why do you want me to tell you that Semenko and McSorley didn't chase ... etc.??

Ok, I'll re-phrase that ,, don’t you think Sementhead & McSquirrely made sure nobody hit Gretzky hard?
I’m kidding about what I think Foligno said,, but look, it’s not HIS code,, he’s just doing what’s expected of him. Again, I don’t like fighting over a clean hit, but that’s still what goes on,,, it’s called “protecting your star players” , as I’m sure you folks in “The Friendly” know.

I expect some of the people in MB know, but the question isn't what somebody knows but what's "right"  IMNSHumbleO.    Is it right to punish Smith for a 100% legal hit that appears to have been much less hard than it would have been had he not been starting to change direction.  

Re. Semenko & Co.:  IF what they did was right, then so is this:  https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-ice-hockey-nhl-news-my-eye-bled-and-i-couldnt-see-crazy-scenes-emerged-following-a-deadly-nhl-brawl-that-had-six-guys-pounding-a-player-in-1973/    I gather Kelly, Saleski, etc. justified that method of seeing that opponents didn't take liberties with BC by saying: "Hey, look, it’s not MY code; I'm just doing what’s expected of me."   I guess  principles apply ... until they don't.

If the code isn't Foligno's then I expect by now he's obviously pointed that out to several interviewers/analysts/social media platforms/etc.   ... or maybe he made a one-time exception.  

Edit: Do you support the retribution meted out by players when no rules have been broken?   [.... nothing to do with Semenko, Gretzky, Grimson, Clarke, Foligno, Kelly, Bedard, etc., etc., etc.     ....and not to be confused with rules being broken, but officials not calling it.]

I’ll repeat - I don’t like fighting over a clean hit. & it isn’t my code,, I think it’s stupid,, but it’s still there.
The 1970’s Flyers were a disgrace to the sport, imo. Clarke* was a talented but dirty player who could hide behind his bullies.
Foligno doesn’t have to explain his actions,, everyone in hockey knows why he did it.
I still don’t see Smith turning back as he hit the kid Bedard,, only after he nailed him,, either way, it was a clean hit.

* too bad he was from "The Friendly"

More relentless TeePee boosterism….

“ Jan. 7, 1964 - Rookie Detroit Red Wing goaltender Roger Crozier, substituting for injured Terry Sawchuk, hung up his second shutout at the expense of the Boston Bruins tonight, as the Wings improved their hold on fourth place with a 5-0 victory at Boston Garden. Floyd Smith, Ed Joyal, Doug Barkley, Alex Delvecchio, and Norm Ullman scored the goals to extend cellar-dwelling Boston’s current winless streak through nine games. The victory moved Detroit five full points ahead of idle New York in the NHL standings. The game, which attracted only 7,246, originally had been scheduled for Nov. 24 but was postponed because of the assassination of President Kennedy. Bruins fans didn’t litter the ice as much as they had in recent games. Instead, they chanted, jeered, booed, and at one point sang the hymn “We Shall Overcome” to voice their disapproval of Boston’s faltering play.
Crozier, 21, was obviously happy about his second shutout over Boston, but even Roger would have to admit that the B’s did not give him a worrisome moment as he made 29 saves. They never mustered anything like a threatening attack. The passing was exceptionally faulty, and when the Bruins had the advantage twice on penalties, their so-called “power play” was almost a mockery of the term. During the second intermission, an announcement was made that tickets for Thursday’s game with the Rangers would go on sale tomorrow morning. “What do you mean, sell ‘em?” a big voice boomed from the stands. “You ought to give ‘em away!”

Young Roger won the Memorial Cup with TeePees in 1960,, he being a 17 year-old kid from the Muskoka backwoods. He garnered many a “20-Bell” save shout from TeePees broadcaster Rex Stimers. (who often got soused during games and sometimes bowed out in the 3rd period , giving the reins to his colour man Tommy Garriock)

p.s., stay tuned for more TeePees memories ….

double p.s., this was 2 years before Bobby Orr ("Oahh" in New England) joined the Bruins, who then were still a hapless team despite herculean efforts by Johnny "Chief" Bucyk. Nobody then was saying he should be on a contending team, as some now are with regards to Bedard....

Oops, forgot to post the pics.... 

I thought Crozier was down in my basement, but I just checked and apparently there's only these stiffs. [My mammy originally came from Lucknow/Huntsville/Bracebridge/?? and knew some Croziers.... but she moved west 1915ish, so Roger probably wasn't among  'em.]

Edit: Who was the "dirtier" player.... Gordy Howe or Booby Clarke? [I have a Topps card, and it's  "Gordy."]

Lucknow is quite a bit farther west of Muskoka,, it’s the hometown of Paul “Russian Nemesis” Henderson. But Bracebridge is spot on , it’s Crozier’s hometown. He was already playing in an intermediate senior hockey league at 15 when the TeePees heard about him.

They moved around a bit ... maybe they were [borderline??] po' white trash.  

P.S.  .... Dirtier player?  

Dirty player? Gordie never liked to be embarrassed by an opponent,, he meted out his punishment with relish,,, elbows , forearms, and all.
Clarke liked using his stick , hacking, whacking, etc. Hard to say who was dirtier. They say Ted Green was a very dirty player also,, & I suppose there were/are many others.

Ah, yes, Green ... one of the principles(?) in one of my all-time favorite "obviously" interviews. Habs vs. Bruins.  Some analyst (?) asked Claude Provost some inane question or other about the Habs forechecking or some such tripe.  There'd been a scrap, and CP's "answer" was: "Boy, dat Fergie, 'e sure give it to Green, eh?!?!"  

You no doubt remember the stick-swinging fight Green had with ex-TeePee Wayne Maki,,, he had some serious brain damage from that one.

https://youtu.be/EXoO2QkIlH8?si=ue1qOnbNJMfZ-qrJ

But , on the lighter side, here’s ex-St. Catharines Blackhawk Dennis Hull..
https://youtu.be/djecqEOty90?si=-Zfzwmaoh4TCGaeS

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Originally posted by chuckv97

Dirty player? Gordie never liked to be embarrassed by an opponent,, he meted out his punishment with relish,,, elbows , forearms, and all.
Clarke liked using his stick , hacking, whacking, etc. Hard to say who was dirtier. They say Ted Green was a very dirty player also,, & I suppose there were/are many others.

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In a talk he gave at our college, Doug Harvey commented on Gordie's dirty work. If you were in the corner with him when the whistle blew, never let your guard down. He'd give you a parting shot. If you hit him, he'd get you back - maybe not right away. He'd wait until you weren't expecting it. For such a soft-spoken guy, he was a really nasty piece of work on the ice.

Clarke was nasty off the ice, too - consider his treatment of Roger Neilson.

“ ] In the early 1980s Harvey was offered a job at the Connaught Park Racetrack in Aylmer, Quebec, as well as the opportunity to live in retired railcar that had been used by Canadian prime minister John Diefenbaker in the 1950s, and subsequently purchased by the track.[44]

For years, Harvey battled alcoholism while suffering from bipolar disorder. In 1985 he was offered a job with the Montreal Canadiens as a scout. He died on December 26, 1989, due to cirrhosis of the liver, only a week after his 65th birthday, and was interred in the Notre-Dame-des-Neiges Cemetery in Montreal.”

I read somewhere that Camille Henry ended up living in a room in Montreal,, a victim of the bottle.

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THE RIVERTON RIFLE …….. “Reggie Leach skating on Lake Winnipeg (Jan. 2, 2024). We're all looking forward to seeing Reggie on Jan. 26-27 at the Cup team reunion during Alumni weekend.

Reggie's wife, Dawn, posted this photo and some video to her Facebook page.”

And this just in…. wonder if he’ll mug Brendan Smith…
sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/corey...-bettman/