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Sep 21, 2021 - 4:33:58 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

I hadn't noticed anything being dropped or picked up during the broadcast... but I thought Kirk's applying of the tag was a bit sloppy (?).    Since Kiermier just happened upon it, it's "c'est la vie," so far as I'm concerned.

Now all we need is for the players to carry a few different sets of cards so one lost/found card will be no big deal.... so long as each player of the team that owns the card knows the "key" that designates which is the "live" set.  I can see it leading to some interesting situations.   

Heck, it might even rival Canseco bouncing the flyball off his noggin for a homer.  yes

Edited by - Owen on 09/21/2021 16:45:58

Sep 22, 2021 - 11:33:11 AM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

This popped up on Facebook today: 

May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'Bob Gibson is the luckiest pitcher| ever saw. He always pitches when the other team doesn't score any runs. Tim McCarver ?ur— AZQUOTES'

Sep 22, 2021 - 7:06:38 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

17031 posts since 9/27/2007

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/on-this-canadian-flag-salmon-and-orca-swim-1.24335963

I support all holidays! Truth & Reconciliation day is September 30. It's a federal stat.  It's not recognized in all provinces.  It should be. 

Sep 22, 2021 - 7:17:36 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

Bubba, why should it be?  If indeed it should be, what should it entail?

Sep 23, 2021 - 7:22:40 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Owen, I know you must have connections with the higher-ups in the sports world,,,, could you please ask associates of Buck Martinez to tell him to quit beginning ALL his comments with the word “Yeah”….?


All??   Ya, well the jury is now "in."   Tallied 'em up for 5th. inning tonight........ 15 [45%] yas and 18 [55%] non-yas.   But, ya, now that you've pointed it out it is quite noticeable, but once in a while it is appropriate as it answers a question posed by Dan The Man. Maybe I've been subconsciously cutting him some slack, figuring he was kinda using it as a schwa sound.

4 runs for the Twins in their half and Grichuck steps on Hernandez's hand... oy vey.    But on the bright side, the Yankees haven't packed it in.

Sep 23, 2021 - 7:35:45 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

Nice tally, Owen. He uses, ya, well,,, thank gawd no “so” yet.
Springer injury & out of sorts,, pitching faltering, hitting fairly quiet. Could be a dark Skydome this Oct. Jan Kees ? Whoodat?

Sep 23, 2021 - 7:52:16 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

Oooops! ... Gurriel's hand.   Probably indicative of how much attention I typically give it [or some imaginary deterioration in my mental acuity].  Is it any wonder I missed Buck's "yas"?

Sep 23, 2021 - 7:56:42 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

I hear your pal Tabby is getting hired as analyst by the Bronx (Jr.) Bombers

Sep 24, 2021 - 2:59:48 PM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

A Bill Felber [whoever he is] opines that "while Tabler is a fully competent analyst, his oratory is merely good."  https://calltothepen.com/2021/04/26/rating-mlb-play-by-play-and-color-voices-the-al-east/4/   

If that's any indication of Mr. Felber's ability/smarts, then let me say this about that:

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Sep 24, 2021 - 7:33:32 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

17031 posts since 9/27/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Bubba, why should it be?  If indeed it should be, what should it entail?


Like a "Safety meeting" Nobody works. Nobody gets hurt!

I'm all about regional holidays.

I think about our relationship with our native neighbours all the time.

I learned that when the Spanish conquistadors  were raping & pillaging they took home some of the domesticated turkeys that the locals were raising at the time. Those breeds were refined over there & reintroduced back to North America. They are the ones we eat for our seasonal holidays.

Sep 24, 2021 - 8:58:19 PM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

Bubba, your comment re. "Safety meeting" reminds me of an exchange between my wife and her teaching assistant on one reserve.  [Background info.... the TA's husband was the reserve's NADAP co-ordinator.... I think that stands for Northern Alcohol and Drug Awareness Program. He had a side gig as a second tier bootlegger, but that's a story for another time.]  The TA mentioned something about her husband being the NADAP co-ordinator. My wife asked: "Well, what does he actually do?"   "He holds meetings."  "Who goes to the meetings?" "Nobody."  

 C'est la vie! 

Fwiw, I too frequently ponder the us-them relationship that's been in place for 500 years.  I'm not convinced that a National T & R Day will advance the ideal of "equality".... but then again, I have my doubts that equality [especially equality of opportunity] is a goal of leadership.

Sep 29, 2021 - 6:23:53 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

Ok, bak to DC’s favorite summer sport. I propose a rule change! If a batter gets hit by a pitch because he was swinging at it and his arm thereby gets in the way of the baseball, it shouldn’t be “hit-by-pitch”,, it should be a dead ball,,, no first base awarded, no strike or ball. How’s dat grabya?  That damn runner helped tie the game up.....

Edited by - chuckv97 on 09/29/2021 18:25:38

Sep 29, 2021 - 7:15:07 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

... The status quo suits me.  It's not a hit-by pitch if the batter swings at it [which he didn't, btw], even on appeal; isn't it just a strike?   I suspect that any runners on base wouldn't be able to advance??

Edit: But what doesn't suit me is balls +/-20.33 cm off the plate being called strikes!!   &*%$#&^%   $%#@&%!  [And just for you Chuck, that's 8".  cheeky ]

Edited by - Owen on 09/29/2021 19:25:34

Sep 29, 2021 - 7:41:52 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

I’d have to watch it again,, I thought he did a check swing,,, I shoulda said that in the first place. Berrios got burned on a couple calls that didn’t go his way too….
centinches,,, whatever,,, write a letter to the Commish.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 09/29/2021 19:42:09

Sep 29, 2021 - 8:03:03 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

....would a pitch that hits a batter's foot [on a checked swing] still be a dead ball?

I like the human factor the umps provide.... a couple of inches off the plate is human..... 8" is inhuman [even if the calls even out in the long run].

Sep 29, 2021 - 9:19:04 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

I think any body part that moves towards the plate due to the swing or check swing & then gets hit , I say it’s not the pitcher’s fault and he shouldn’t get nailed with hitting the batter.
I guess I missed the 8” off the plate call(s). I saw one that looked 4” or so out of the strike zone.

Sep 30, 2021 - 7:12:10 AM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

.... toward? or parallel to?   

Would whether the ball is curving toward or away from the batter make a diff?  The curve [assuming it's not an optical illusion!!] would be the pitcher's doing, not the batters. 

Is the [front] leg lift and subsequent foot plant [given the bruhaha (?) in another thread I hope that's the appropriate word], or any other body part movement/rotation part of a swing/checked swing?    Fwiw, I say they are.... and your proposal could be opening Pandora's box.... and maybe not upping the "fairness" quotient.    I haven't rechecked Pilliar taking one in the face, but I wonder if he had started a swing/checked swing. 

The analysts [dunno about Tabby] often use the term "offered at" which always seemed a bit nebulous to me, but now that you've got me thinking a bit more about it, maybe it's the best description.

Sep 30, 2021 - 9:51:54 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

Just like a check-swing call, it would be a judgement call , fer shore. You probably remember the days when Drysdale or somebody would be pitching and Willie Mays would come up and you just knew he’d have to hit the deck on the first or second pitch. Nowadays with all the “armor” (“armor” in mini-soda) hitters can be more fearless. (overheard from that ex-BooYay, mini-soda native, and hard-nosed pitcher Jack Morris)

Sep 30, 2021 - 4:06:13 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

Owen, I trust you have your yardstick (*< metre stick) handy to measure those called strikes that are out of the strike zone laugh

Oct 2, 2021 - 10:52:52 AM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

Nah.... I just watch the computer generated "strike zone" or preferably an overhead replay. a) One diameter of the ball off the black.... give the ump the benefit of any doubt. b) 1 to 2 diameters of the ball ... pretty iffy [okay if it favours "my" team, not so much if it favours the other team cheeky ].  c) more than two diameters .... "kill the *^&%$ ump."

Edit: And IF I was an ump and noticed a catcher trying to hoodwink me by pulling a pitch into the strike zone [a.k.a. "framing" a pitch],  I'd call  it a ball on principle!!   The catcher ain't gonna be moving his mitt a very much on pitches that catch the strike zone, IMNSHumbleO.

Edited by - Owen on 10/02/2021 10:56:40

Oct 2, 2021 - 11:05:28 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

Buck the Martinez likes catchers ‘framing’ pitches if they do it “stealthily”. I also can’t see an ump falling for that, but waddu I know.
Hang on to yer hat tmrrw,,, a wild day for a wild card berth!

Oct 3, 2021 - 8:38:53 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

"The more things change, the more... etc." : https://info.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/the-nhl-and-the-flyers-react-to-lehner-s-allegations-against-alain-vigneault?fbclid=IwAR0qO-8tC7DnuwGwEIG5XCqLMB2rZz0PxKVg2RiqT0cGnnQ-ArC1FuWOopU

Go Yankees!! Go!  [But with my limited knowledge, the Dodgers look for-mi-dable.]

Oct 8, 2021 - 6:37:05 PM

Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

Smoltz and some other dude are announcing the Red Sox-Rays game. Smoltz says Nelson Cruz gets power by having his bat stay in the strike zone longer than other batters. About 1 second later, the other guy says Cruz's power comes from his bat being exceptionally quick through the zone.   Has there been stop frame timing [or other hi tech stuff] to actually determine the time it takes for bats to pass through the zone?  Can some guy in the broadcast booth actually see the differences [as they'd have us believe]?  Or is one [or both] of 'em just babbling?

Edit: Nevertheless, an "interesting" game.  I was still settling in to watch Chris Sale mow 'em down, and next thing.... wtf???

Edited by - Owen on 10/08/2021 18:41:27

Oct 8, 2021 - 7:35:25 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79612 posts since 10/5/2013

“Through the strike zone” methinks means poipendickular/parallel (?) to to ground,, not an uppercut or a downward swing,, n’est-ce pas? But I question the one second thing,,, geez, where’s Tabby when ya need him……

[not having seen the Giants for a while, I see they have a Yaz ,,, the grandson of Carl ]

Edited by - chuckv97 on 10/08/2021 19:51:17

Oct 8, 2021 - 8:20:15 PM
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Owen

Canada

19555 posts since 6/5/2011

My interpretation is it starts when the bat enters the strike zone [at the back/peak/tip/?? of the home-plate] and ends when the bat leaves the front edge of the plate [passing more-or-less parallel to ground]. I wonder what the "range" of those times would be for a bat that stays longer compared to one that passes through quickly.   The "one second later" I referred to is how much time elapsed between the two announcers saying diametrically opposed things and neither offering any explanation or correction [BUT, I'm pretty sure the second dude didn't introduce his comment with "Yah..."  yes ].

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