Pay attention now folks,,,
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Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/21/2025 15:07:49
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Originally posted by chuckv97Pay attention now folks,,,
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A classic.
Speaking of classics:
And more importantly what's with all the moronic b.s.* of having a "player of the game" pictured wearing some moronic prop like a hard hat, some sort of jacket/vest, or ??? Just now on my Fb page has the goalie for the [senior] Canora, SK Cobras with a stuffed toy cobra draped around his neck, and I've seen pics of similar upchuck worthy crap in minor hockey. .... and I'll really upchuck if somebody tries to tell me it helps with team bonding. IF it does, the team's IQ surely/Shirley must be in single, or possibly low double, digits.
* it makes fans "high-fiving" look like Einsteins.
And IF you ask, I might just tell you how I really feel about it. [Fwiw, The yocal Rams lost their home-opener 11-3 last nite; outshot by 2-1 margin.... what they do to/for/?? their PoG I do not know.]
Edited by - Owen on 11/22/2025 09:13:10
Well, pardon me, Herrmeister, but a lot of deez guys didn’t finish high school,, they’re stunted emotionally on top o’ dat. I hope you undersnap these things. (I recall Jerome Iginla wearing a hard hat after a game,, the BooYays HR jacket is gaudy and amateurish, but hey, I’ve got edumicashun!
Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/22/2025 09:16:22
Okay, so that last little exchange has prompted me to post a question I've privately held for a long time. (Well, that and an extra glass of wine at supper).
I have had the great pleasure to spend a fair amount of time in Yon Frozen North. I have been in all provinces east of Manitoba (save for Newfoundland or whatever you call it these days) and west and south of Alberta, Yukon and Nunavit. Regardless of wherever - with a bit of slightly grating language condescension and snobbery from the primary home of Habs fans - I have found Canadians to be amongst the kindest, most hospitable, and gentlest people I've encountered in my travels.
Except for hockey, in which blood, violence and grudges aren't just accepted - they're EXPECTED.
Now, I most certainly consider this aspect of things preferable to, say, soccer (some call it football) in the UK, where the violence plays out in the stands, or certain other sports which derive from older practices in which the object of play involves the skull of someone from the last team that lost. To say nothing of gladiatorial contests of many centuries ago.
But still, I wonder. Could it be that you denizens of Yon Frozen North are just as inherently violent as Your Neighbors to the South, and have merely found more socially acceptable proxies?
Edited by - eagleisland on 11/22/2025 16:12:50
I can only speak for one Canadian, and I might not be seeing the "average," but my take is that there's a b-i-g difference. IMNSHumbleO, Canadians by-and-large tend to see 'real' violence as a last resort, whereas many Americans have it as their go-to. I think most Canadians expect that a lid will be kept on hockey's blood, violence, grudges... i.e. "Don't get carried away!" We're probably on the same continuum, but with some distance in between.
Take for example Marchand taking Q. Hughes's stick t'other nite. We [i.e. the one Canadian I can speak for] would have liked to have seen Hughes go up to take the stick back and give Marchand a good, stiff, short, gloves-on jab to the mush.... just enough to snap his head back... barely enough to register on the BVG-O-meter 2000.
'Way back a few of us were camping out in the boonies, as were a group from The States [it's irrelevant, but IIRC, they were some sort of forestry or conservation workers on a bit of a fishing excursion]. They said they were from Nebraska, and one of our group then asked if they were aware of the Omaha Knights. They said they were big fans, but when we started asking/mentioning even the most rudimentary stuff about the Knights they went blank. One of them went into a bit of a shadow boxing routine and explained their lack of knowledge with, "...we go for the fights."
Edit: I'm too lazy to "look it up," but I suspect the level of schooling/education for NHLers is pretty good.... 'way more than back in the day [whenever that was].
Edited by - Owen on 11/22/2025 17:31:41
Dustin Brown was in my daughter’s class in high school,, she said he wasn’t there much.
As for pent-up violence in the Canadian psyche , I think it stems from being in a huge landmass of a country with lots of rural attitudes pertaining to blood & guts survival during long cold winters,,, sounds like a stereotypical view but I think it holds some water. Burkie (I call him “Burkie” even though he doesn’t know me from Adam) always wanted good tough prairie kids - they were gritty and pugnacious. It’s no mystery that the Canadian prairies are the coldest parts of the country, examples off the top of my head - Gordie Howe, Wendell Clark , Brian Trottier, Tiger Williams, Lanny McDonald, etc.
I’m an amateur psychologist (pshaw) so I’ll delve deeper- it’s the politeness and gentleness necessary for social goodwill that stifles an underlying anger and violence, present in most human beings. Hockey allows a release of those feelings.
As for my view of Americans, having being raised near the bordre/border and driven semi there for 16 years, they're in a more crowded country with many big cities where crime flourishes , self-survival/self-protection demands an attitude of violence just under the surface. Also, I think a powerful national has more enemies to worry about, hence they’re more “ready to drop the gloves”.
Just my take on it,,, tmrrw I’ll read this and tell myself I’m full of sh..... it.
Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/22/2025 18:02:01
Chuck, I largely agree.
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(snip)'Way back a few of us were camping out in the boonies, as were a group from The States [it's irrelevant, but IIRC, they were some sort of forestry or conservation workers on a bit of a fishing excursion]. They said they were from Nebraska, and one of our group then asked if they were aware of the Omaha Knights. They said they were big fans, but when we started asking/mentioning even the most rudimentary stuff about the Knights they went blank. One of them went into a bit of a shadow boxing routine and explained their lack of knowledge with, "...we go for the fights."
Heh. Brings to mind a story.
I've never been a fan of motorsports, and I particularly never was particularly interested in Nascar - even though I'm well aware of its antecedents in the moonshining business and thus its tangential connection to stringband music.
It's the #1 spectator sport in the US - at least, if you're counting the number of seats sold for a race. Or it was 15 or 20 years ago - I don't keep track.
I lived in a small town in Maine. My neighbor across the street - nice guy - was a HUGE Nascar fan. He had banners in his yard and had a rotating crew of fan friends; they'd go to each others' houses on race days and really throw down with the grill, the beer, the fixings.
By this time, I was realizing something: Nascar isn't just about a car and a driver. It's about a team; the driver is merely the figurehead. There's athletic trainers and mechanics and designers and engineers and highly-skilled pit crews that can send a car gasping for life back out onto the track in about 20 seconds, fully rejuvenated. I figured that this entered into in the calculus of a devoted Nascar fan. Otherwise, what's the appeal of watching 30 or 40 cars loop around a track for several hours, with an occasional crash to add drama?
So I asked my neighbor. As I said, nice guy. "What's the appeal?" I said. "What do you watch for and why?"
His answer: "Mostly, we just like the crashes."
Edited by - eagleisland on 11/23/2025 06:10:25
'Way back I thought I'd read something about Tiger Williams studying [or at least reading some textbook] about business/finance, while riding the team bus, knowing that he wouldn't play 'ockey forever. So I asked the all-knowing Google.... found no mention of that, but via Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Williams came up with this little gem:
"On February 9, 2018, Williams was charged with sexual assault while on a military trip to Latvia.[2] These charges were withdrawn by Crown attorney Meaghan Cunningham after he issued an apology.[3]
Williams was arrested and charged with one count of uttering a threat to cause death and one count of assault stemming from an April 10, 2023 incident in Beaver Flat, Saskatchewan. Police said the other man involved did not sustain injuries or require medical attention.[4] On Sept 6, 2023, the charges were dropped.[5]"
I dunno 'bout others, but I'm mucho comforted knowing that apology >> dropped charges. Our supposedly over-worked justice (?) system should take a page ..... clear up the backlog in no time flat. 
Well, I do recall the Maple Laffs playing pre-season exhibition games at Garden City Arena but many Blackhawk fans threw open their windows and yelled,”Run da bums outta town!”
Here’s an early attempt by Maple Leaf Management to infiltrate ….
(fwiw, the auld barn has long ago seen the wrecking ball, but I still remember Saturday afternoon public skating with the PA system playing Sousa marches, often with wobbly rhythm and distorted sound quality owing to the aging 78 rpm record player)
Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/23/2025 21:00:19
And furthermore, in spite of Kingston Paul’s confusion about Moan-Ray-all Forum fans chanting “Pilous” or “Pilote” (I say Pilote cuz he was born in La Belle Province), these two will soon have their own banners hanging from the Meridian Centre (where DC/M’s original IceDogs play).
as a side note, Pilote used to hold the puck behind the net waiting for Hull to come around and pick it up , starting his rink-length rushes and releasing a “cannonading” shot (thnx Danny Gallivan) just over the blue line. Pierre garnered a fair number of assists that way.
youtu.be/ZNhIMnG9xAI?feature=shared
.... ^^ which blue line??
'Way back the Lac du Bonnet Lions Club would buy the tickets and a driver [me on a couple of occasions] would supply the car and gas to take supposedly disadvantage kids to Sunday aft. Jets games.... old Wpg. Arena with the pic of QEII. Hull would shoot pretty much from the red line in and the shot could end up hitting anywhere on the end wall of the arena. I'd be mildly surprised if somebody didn't make a [doctored?] pic of Lizzie with a black eye or stitches [too lazy to "look it up"]..... but "pay attention" was advice well worth taking when he was on the ice. 'Twas nice to see Hull-Hedberg-Nilsson work their "magic."
Edited by - Owen on 11/24/2025 07:07:10
Pal Hal Ballard and DC/MD didn’t like those “soft” Swedes coming over here , but I’ll bet they both would’ve changed their tune if’n they had Nilsson and Hedberg. Pal Hal once remarked that Inge Hammarstrom could go into the corner to fight for the puck with 2 eggs in his pocket and leave the corner with both eggs intact.
Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/24/2025 07:18:41
Early in this clip, is there "interference" ... does #19 interfere with #91? https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1157892909826040
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Originally posted by OwenEarly in this clip, is there "interference" ... does #19 interfere with #91? https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1157892909826040
Can you check a guy that doesn't have the puck? I say no - interference could've been called. Not sure - the refs thought it was the proverbial "hockey play".
Pitchers and catchers report Feb. 13
Can you check a guy that doesn't have the puck? I say no - interference could've been called. Not sure - the refs thought it was the proverbial "hockey play".
Do you have any insight into what is/isn't a "hockey" play?
[I'm not so sure the refs actually "thought" anything .... my suspicion is that they're just going along with what they've been told to call/not call.]
Nope, no idea about this vague it’s just a “hockey play” notion. Refs told what to call? Checking a player that doesn’t have the puck gets a “get out of jail free” card? I can see two guys kind of jostling on their way to the puck on the boards,, happens a lot, but a foot race in this instance doesn't fall into that category. Plus the fact that it's a dangerous play with Kane crashing into the boards/bords/boreds.
However, carry on with your intense critique of officialdom....
Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/25/2025 08:24:36
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Originally posted by chuckv97Pitchers and catchers report Feb. 13
That's the Bob Gibson I loved??
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Originally posted by chuckv97quote:
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Originally posted by chuckv97Pitchers and catchers report Feb. 13
That's the Bob Gibson I loved??
A ferocious competitor, right, John! High & inside Bob!
He sure was. I still remember the World Series in the 60's when the Cardinals and Red Sox played ......... Gibson vs Lonberg (I think).
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Originally posted by BanjoLinkHe sure was. I still remember the World Series in the 60's when the Cardinals and Red Sox played ......... Gibson vs Lonberg (I think).
Long after he retired, Lonborg used to ski now and then at the resort in Maine at which I worked. Met him a few times. I remember him as a wonderfully pleasant and easy-going guy.
Talk about competitive, former Blue Jay hurler Dave Stieb was playing in a charity game against some sports journalists after he retired. One guy got a hit off him early on - next time up he plunked him. He was a great pitcher but a bit of a jerk; he’d growl at his infielders if they made an error.
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Originally posted by chuckv97Talk about competitive, former Blue Jay hurler Dave Stieb was playing in a charity game against some sports journalists after he retired. One guy got a hit off him early on - next time up he plunked him. He was a great pitcher but a bit of a jerk; he’d growl at his infielders if they made an error.
The Blue Jays had a great pitcher from my university, Jimmy Key. I remember he once turned dow n a significant raise, I think with the Jays, because he thought he was already making enough. In college, when he wasn't pitching, he played right field and was a terrific hitter batting .300 and making the All_ACC team as a pitcher and designated hitter.
From Hockey Beast >> Facebook >> BHO:
"While on a road trip with the Los Angeles Kings, Butch Goring spilled spaghetti sauce on a white turtleneck, and his teammates bet on whether he’d get it cleaned. When Goring came down to the hotel lobby the next day, he was wearing the same sweater and there was no sign of a stain.
When teammates commended him for his unexpected fastidiousness, Goring removed his jacket and turned around. The stain was still there, but Goring had turned the sweater around and was wearing it with the back to the front."
Fwiw, for one season I wore a helmet like ^^ ....at the end of the season the guy I'd borrowed it from had the nerve to ask for it back! 
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