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Apr 2, 2025 - 4:07:50 PM

Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

Dunno just where I heard it ..... I doubt it was presented as news on CBC/CTV/Global, so the prime suspects are either, a) whatever sports Westman Cable foists on me [i.e. Sportsnet, TSN, ???] or b) BHO.  I'm guessing that the greater likelihood is that my reliable source was b).   wink

Apr 2, 2025 - 8:28:42 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Here I was minding my own business watching the Blackhawks and who appears on my screen ? , , , none other than our own lovable Jackie ! (she wasn’t about to display her pigeon toes, though….)

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Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/02/2025 20:30:25

Apr 3, 2025 - 5:41:32 AM
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17106 posts since 12/2/2005

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Here I was minding my own business watching the Blackhawks and who appears on my screen ? , , , none other than our own lovable Jackie ! (she wasn’t about to display her pigeon toes, though….)

share.icloud.com/photos/0b1HRi...uigX1xz1A


I have seen more fetching photos of the lass, but her presence on this page means I don't have to go looking. I thank you, sir. Yours will suffice until we move to Page 127 of this remarkable thread.

And meantime, my beloved Bruins are on a tank-a-thon run for the ages. They now sit eighth out of eight in the Atlantic Division and sixteenth our of sixteen in the Eastern Conference - yes, even behind the lowly Buffalo Sabres.

In the entire NHL, only Nashville, Chicago and San Jose have lower point totals.

All of which nearly guarantees a top-five draft pick in late June - unless they REALLY screw up and start winning. Which they might do. Because they're hockey players.

Apr 3, 2025 - 9:08:58 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Well, I can relate,, the usual scenario played out again last evening,, good team comes to Chicago,, lollygags for 30 minutes,, realizes they’re behind and time is moving on so they wake up and pour it on,, tie the game in the dying minutes and win in a shootout.
I notice Bedard is doing the McDavid thing lately,, no smiles after a Blackhawk goal,, cellies with teammates seems only obligatory for him without enthusiasm….

Apr 3, 2025 - 9:59:07 AM

17106 posts since 12/2/2005

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Well, I can relate,, the usual scenario played out again last evening,, good team comes to Chicago,, lollygags for 30 minutes,, realizes they’re behind and time is moving on so they wake up and pour it on,, tie the game in the dying minutes and win in a shootout.
I notice Bedard is doing the McDavid thing lately,, no smiles after a Blackhawk goal,, cellies with teammates seems only obligatory for him without enthusiasm….


I can't say that I blame the kid. Here he is, more or less a generational talent with all kinds of hype surrounding him coming in, and the Blackhawks are a woeful team with a brilliant young kid trying to carry them along. Other than Bedard, they really don't have any "Holy $#!+" players, and their prospect pool is shallow - their AHL affiliate (Rockford Ice Hogs) shows little depth or signs of getting there.

Compare and contrast with San Jose, who picked up the other recent "generational talent" in Macklin Celebrini this year. San Jose in the only team in the NHL with a worse record than the Blackhawks, but the hockey pundits agree that there's a ton of talent coming up and the Sharks are expected to start making waves next year or the year after. Bedard has to be aware of this.

Edited by - eagleisland on 04/03/2025 10:00:08

Apr 3, 2025 - 10:14:53 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Well, the Blackhawks iced a handful of players under the age of 21 last night. I’m impressed with Nazar,, he’s quick, smart, and shifty with mucho enthusiasm.
I’m thinking, like McDavid a few years ago, that he’s got all the fans’ hopes on his shoulders , the kid is only 19. Media hypes this stuff up so much these days that these kids feel they are under huge pressure,, imho

Apr 3, 2025 - 10:17:10 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Might be okay in a couple o’ years


Hoping on these fellas,, they're showing some promise. Also looking good are Vlasic, Reichel, and Knight

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/03/2025 10:21:05

Apr 3, 2025 - 3:04:31 PM
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Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

"Unless they really SCREW up and start winning"  ....

... well, so long as the gods of 'ockey see fit to keep the Bruins "resurgence" in check  'til tomorrow.   

Apr 3, 2025 - 4:07:16 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

‘abs et Brooens,, now!

Apr 4, 2025 - 5:56:02 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

‘abs et Brooens,, now!


And I am in favor of the result.

Apr 4, 2025 - 6:56:20 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Well, I thought it would never happen, but Ovechkin ties Gretzky’s goals record with 2 tonight.
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https://share.icloud.com/photos/01axONe8lXmB3yDr3nZ_MfMkQ

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/04/2025 18:57:09

Apr 5, 2025 - 6:09:02 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Well, I thought it would never happen, but Ovechkin ties Gretzky’s goals record with 2 tonight.
share.icloud.com/photos/0d9X0C...j2BdR_ScQ

https://share.icloud.com/photos/01axONe8lXmB3yDr3nZ_MfMkQ


Yes. Last night was memorable. Sunday afternoon may well be even moreso.

Apr 5, 2025 - 7:14:54 PM
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Paul R

Canada

17432 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

^^^^ laugh

I heard that Ballard, Stanford Smythe, and Imlach were a bunch of boozers,, Eddie Shack even mentioned one time that the whole organization from top to bottom drank too much. Saner heads like Armstrong and Keon probably got them to the last '67 Cup win. 


Keon came out of the St. Michael's High School programme, so I'm sure he was much more straight and narrow. He seemed quite together the few times I saw him. He did well in Florida real estate, so I "heard". When the Leafs finally tried to get him involved with some event, he turned them down because (and I heard this directly on radio - or TV), "I don't do form letters."

One of my teaching colleagues knew Bob Murdoch, who told him that, on the Canadiens team bus, while the other guys were playing cards, he and Ken Dryden were hitting the books - Dryden, of course, for his law degree.

Apr 5, 2025 - 7:30:02 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

The guy that surprised me getting a law degree was Stu (“The Grim Reaper”) Grimson

Apr 5, 2025 - 11:23:06 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Sports can be cruel… you get bumped out of the playoffs in OT by a fluke goal going in off your defenceman’s skate. The commentator had no business saying the goalie didn’t hug the post,, he was moving out to where the pass was going….
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Apr 6, 2025 - 6:34:08 AM

Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

 .... maybe some of the other 39 missed opportunities to pick up a point or two contributed.    .... but I know what you mean.

[And at least it wasn't a play where the officials' call doesn't match the video "evidence."  wink ]

Apr 6, 2025 - 7:07:14 AM

Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

Apr 6, 2025 - 7:20:03 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

^^^ Looks like the old OHA Intermediate leagues that I played in one year (Simcoe Chiefs) are long gone,, now they have Allan Cup contenders and a AA division. St. Catharines didn’t have a Senior team back in my day, but my sister and BIL regularly attended Galt Hornets games in the 1970’s. Rick Vaive played for the senior Dundas Merchants after his NHL career.

Apr 6, 2025 - 11:26:53 AM
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Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

#895 in the books.  What's on tap when this record gets broken?!?!?!?    [I'm thinking it'd be kinda good if he got another on his next shift.]

Apr 6, 2025 - 1:50:37 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Well, since a Russian is setting the new record (who’d’a known 50 years ago?) I’m betting on a Chinese player to top Ovi

Apr 6, 2025 - 2:39 PM

Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

I was thinking more along the lines of the hullaballoo after #895.   What are they gonna do for #896?  .... and [maybe] #897?    Won't those be just as important?   It's no secret that I don't follow this stuff as closely as other do, so maybe I'm 'way off base, and I can't say just how it should (?) have been done,  but ......  ???     [Otoh, it is a branch of entertainment.]

Fwiw, when I look at such comparisons I like generally like to check per game ratios, so long as there's a sufficient sample size.  I've looked it up before, but I think* their goals per game are almost the same. 

* i.e. in one ear and out the other. 

Apr 6, 2025 - 2:49:19 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Methinks Ovechkin’s size helped him a lot,, Wayne was a skinny guy,, but, but,, he had big Semenko and McSorley guaranteeing him lots of room. Gretzky had a higher hockey IQ, imo.
Like Yogi said about baseball - “This game is half physical and 90% mental” ...

Apr 6, 2025 - 7:13:43 PM

Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

What the???? 

<Hockeydb.com> says Gretzky and Ovechkin have each played 1487 games  ... gotta go to the fourth decimal place to get goals/game differentiation .... .601214 compared to .6018829.   But, but, but, Mike Bossy's 573 goals in 752 games = .761868 goals per game.

...... so ????????????????  

[But, like one sometimes saw on business letters: "E.&O.E."]

Edited by - Owen on 04/06/2025 19:15:47

Apr 6, 2025 - 8:35:46 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79769 posts since 10/5/2013

Another quotient is (like bayzbal pitchers and their wins) how many goals against weak teams vs. strong teams? Fill the net against cellar-dwellers and be invisible when playing .600+ teams.

Apr 7, 2025 - 6:53:03 AM
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Owen

Canada

19605 posts since 6/5/2011

My limited understanding of stats is that "sufficient sample size" should largely counter that.

For a significant part of Gretzky's career most of the other teams were "weak(er)" teams, no?   [Just a week or two back I wondered aloud (i.e to my mostly disinterested wife) how many goals Ovechkin might have scored had he been playing on a team like the Oilers in their heyday.   ... minimum an additional 15%?]

Tim McCarver: "Bob Gibson is the luckiest pitcher I ever saw. He always pitches when the other team doesn't score any runs." 

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