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Paul R - Posted - 01/24/2011:  22:12:40


And suddenly it's done? Well, I've been impatient to see the finished product, but, now that it's done, I miss the anticipation of looking forward to the next step!

Dan, thanks so much for all of this. Your "documentaries" are always informative, educational, enlightening, fascinating, and fun to follow.

flatfootjohnny - Posted - 01/25/2011:  00:00:24


Beautiful Dan, looks really great. But yeah whats next? This was my morning fix of banjo soap before work.

BNJOMAKR - Posted - 01/25/2011:  03:23:28


Well, I've watched one go from old to re-newed, and one from new to re-olded... what's next, Dan?!

jbalch - Posted - 01/25/2011:  05:12:30


Looks like the original to me...are you sure you didn't get them mixed up? How are we really supposed to know?

aj_fuller - Posted - 01/25/2011:  06:08:16


Really amazing work Dan! As always, thanks so much for sharing your projects, techniques and art with us - can't wait to hear the sound clips!


Edited by - aj_fuller on 01/25/2011 06:08:49

trapdoor2 - Posted - 01/25/2011:  06:37:38


Congratulations, Dan, on a lovely new/old banjo. Looks awesome...bet it sounds the same. Gonna bring one to Breaking Up Winter (March 4-6)?

pernicketylad - Posted - 01/25/2011:  07:22:15


Bravo!

Jonnycake White - Posted - 01/25/2011:  09:35:57


Great stuff. I've learned a lot reading this and seeing all the pictures. Thanks much for sharing you expertise.

muleskinner63 - Posted - 01/25/2011:  11:52:42


Hi Dan thank you for the post and all the time`s you let me watch you at the shop and most for being a friend . Thank you for letting me play the 1850`s banjo it was a pure joy. Please keep posting your work and i hope other`s enjoyed as much as i did. your friend Ron

Steven M - Posted - 01/25/2011:  12:59:06


Very impressed. Thanks for the ride!

dubtom - Posted - 01/25/2011:  14:54:38


Beautiful job Dan, Kinda like finishing a really good book though, I'm disappointed it's finished.

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/25/2011:  18:42:58


THANK YOU

Simon, String, Mike, Paul R., John D., Marvin, John Balch, Al, Shane, Jon, Ron, Steven, Tommy, all of you good folks who watched & commented on this post from the start and especially my friend David Emery who now has this first 1850's Jacobs banjo, Thank You for hanging in with me through this trip. Your interest and comments are what has brought me back again and again to work on these posts. I really appreciate the kindness you have each shown in the comments on this post.

Well since as the say The OPRY ain't over till the Fat Lady sangs!, this show ain't over until our round bottomed beauty sings!
I'll keep posting about our 1850 for a bit more with more photos, mp3s and a video or two.

Again, Thank you so much for traveling down this road with me.
Yours,
Dan Knowles

P.S. Watch for the new post that I'll be sharing with my buddy Bill Rickard, it'll start soon.
P.S.S. There will be other 1850'd banjos listed here in BHO classifieds soon and yes Marc, if I have one I'll bring it to Breaking Up Winter at Cedars of Lebanon in March.

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/25/2011:  19:03:41


MORE PHOTOS

What can I say....
Here are a few more.





Jonathan Farrell gets a little pickin' in!









The proud papa!

GrassJam - Posted - 01/25/2011:  19:13:35


WOW Dan, it sure looks like the real deal! I'm glad I have the original Jacobs safe and sound with me because I'm not so sure that I could tell the difference. Like everyone else, I'm looking forward to hearing some tunes.

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/25/2011:  19:25:24


Paul,
But do you?

GrassJam - Posted - 01/25/2011:  19:28:37


Don't mess with me Dan!

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/25/2011:  21:12:06


Busted!

frihauf - Posted - 01/26/2011:  10:39:36


Hi Dan,

I was just wondering. In 100 years when the owner of this baby wants to have it restored to its original condition, what is he going to do? That will by quite a canundrum.

Ben

Slingerland - Posted - 01/26/2011:  11:23:16


It looks great, Dan! I can't wait to hear it.

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/26/2011:  18:52:08


Ben,
I think that he should return it to the banjo's original maker for restoration!

Slingerland,
Thanks. If I can get this video up on Youtube you should be hearing & seeing it soon. I'll post t just as soon as it is set with them.perhaps in a few minutes... although it is loading very slow...

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/26/2011:  19:21:37


AT HOME

Well the Jacobs has finally reached her new home, down in the great state of Florida, where she now lives with my good friend David Emery. I'm sure he will tell you what he thinks of her before long.

Here is David with his new sweetie! (makes me feel like a papa who has given away his daughter) David you make a good so-in -law!




His whole collection of Knowles family instruments. This may be the largest collection of Knowles instruments on the planet!

From left to right...Sherry Lyn (the first ebony banjo), The Jacobs, Goshen, ca. 1970's F-5 Gibson mandolin ( which I rebuilt to Loar specs.), The Abe Lincoln (minstrel) and a Vega style S (I think) that I made a custom reproduction neck for.



Two minstrels (L to R) Jacobs & Abe.



And another shot of the two minstrels



Again, I want to thank both David Emery and John Balch for all of the wonderful support and encouragement... you are both true friends...Thank you.

Dan Knowles

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/26/2011:  19:42:24


JACOBS IS PLAYED!

Here is a MP3 of my pal Jonathan Farrell playing and singing KING CROW on the new Knowles/ Jacobs banjo. I hope you love this as much as me!

This here is a link to my music archive, scroll down to King Crow. Sorry about the trouble I couldn't figure how to get the lik to post here....I must be tired tonight!
banjohangout.org/myhangout/mus...id=44416#

DEmery - Posted - 01/26/2011:  19:53:48


Dan, when the banjo arrived it simply was beyond words. Those that see it ask one question; " how old is it?" Photos never capture the detail in your work but this piece looks like it came out of the 1800's in every way. Yes I have become the holder of many Knowles pieces. This banjo follows the rest in quality and exceeds my expectation. I look forward to seeing the video; but for those that have watched let me say this banjo is a player and not just an interesting building project. The combination of that single ply bent rim, rim depth, and delicate neck has proven to be a killer combination. The projection and volume caught me off guard. What I found amazing is the "dry hollow" sound. Anybody that has given any thought to a banjo from this period needs to get em' while they are hot. I know you have other rims and necks ready to build out. I don't think too much about my estate sale, but this is another banjo from you that will hang with me a long, long time. Thanks for all the fine work you have done from the ebony banjo to the 1850. Don't know what we will do next but don't be surprised to get a call one day with the question "Dan, have you ever thought about building a ...............?" Thanks , David E.


Edited by - DEmery on 01/27/2011 05:36:55

jbalch - Posted - 01/27/2011:  05:07:16


Dan:

The banjo looks and sounds truly amazing (love the King Crow recording...very well played and sung by Jonathan too)!

Congratulations to you on a fantastic project...and to David on another significant addition to your collection of Knowles-made instruments.

What's next?

JB


Edited by - jbalch on 01/27/2011 05:27:12

Viper - Posted - 01/27/2011:  07:06:56


Looks great and sounds great. What else is new?

Slingerland - Posted - 01/27/2011:  07:29:46


Wow! It sounds great. The tone is very clear, not muddy like some other minstrel reproductions I have heard. It sounds wonderful in the low range, but the highs are just as good. Well done!

Steven M - Posted - 01/27/2011:  08:09:21


He looks like a proud father indeed!

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/27/2011:  10:46:55


THE FIRST VIDEO IS HERE

This video features Jonathan Farrell taking his first look at the JACOBS!

youtube.com/watch?v=0E4Ucd227jM

GrassJam - Posted - 01/27/2011:  11:21:44


OUTSTANDING! Everything about this thread was outstanding. The craftsmanship, the artistry, the ingenuity, the photos, the comments, the sound files, the videos. OUTSTANDING! Thanks for the ride Dan!

eugene1978 - Posted - 01/27/2011:  11:31:11


I've tried to resist jumping in the pile-on, but Dan, your work takes my breath away. I eagerly await your posts, photos, and commentary, but the final product always exceeds my expectations. How is that possible? Your dedication to the craft warms my heart, and plus, you're making banjos! These things will be producing sweet sounds when they look 300 (but are only 150). Kudos.

DEmery - Posted - 01/27/2011:  18:07:53


Dan I have had opportunity to listen to the MP3 and watch the video. Nice touch. Tell Jonathan that singing thing really works. It takes me back to the type of singing I enjoyed with those Uncle Dave recordings from he late 1920's. It worked nicely with the banjo. I hope to meet him one day. David E.

pastorharry - Posted - 01/27/2011:  20:32:51


Well, I'm late to the party,(computer troubles the last month), but man oh man what a thing of RARE beauty! I've always maintained that David Emery is the most aggrevating banjo player/owner I know, as every one of his instruments is a show stopper and jaw dropper!!It's just not fair..... how can any man on earth be so blessed and have so much fun, only John Balch even comes close. In terms of a "modern" openback nothing will ever come close to the Ebony banjo, (I picked it when he wasn't lookin', nany nany), but how can you top this new one for vibe, it's a living , breathing wonderment! One final note, I hope I NEVER come across Jonathan Farrell in line at an old time singin' competition~ Dan Knowles you rock!! God bless y'all, Pastor Harry

dbrooks - Posted - 01/28/2011:  03:35:56


Congratulations on finishing another fine banjo as well as another fine documentary here on BHO. We are all richer for it.

David

DEmery - Posted - 01/28/2011:  04:29:12


Harry, I wondered where you had wandered off for the last month or so. Did you pick the ebony banjo while I wasn't look'en? Hey come to St. Augustine and I will turn my head while you pick away. Good to hear from you and hope all is well. David E.

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/28/2011:  06:00:01




David, John, Brad, Paul, Steven, Paul, Robert, Rev. Harry, David B.

Thank y'all for your very kind comments. I appreciate each of you who has followed this thread since its start (and those of you who have joined in later too!). It's been a fun ride. This will be my next to last post in BIRTHING 1850 and I would like you to really understand how much I do appreciate each one of you. I'm working on a video which I should be done with in the next day or two and I WILL post it here.

Bill Rickard and I are just about to start our joint venture and although the post is not named yet we will be starting soon. This creating a banjo line together will be fun. I couldn't choose a better partner in crime for this than Bill.

Ron Ortegel - Posted - 01/28/2011:  07:13:41


I have been trying to sum up enough superlatives to describe this banjo,
the process of assembling it and the unbelievable amount of attention you give to your work and your explanation of it.
I'm just amazed! It is so good!

eugene1978 - Posted - 01/28/2011:  08:09:21


Hey Dan,
This Rickard-Knowles project also sounds amazing...I can't wait to see what builders like you are going to do with those spunover pots Bill's making. Dobson repro heaven!! BTW, I'm thinking about slotheads with a slotted fifth string, metal frailing plates, etc...am I on track?

5steve - Posted - 01/28/2011:  08:27:01


I've followed this from start to finish has made for some entertaining reading. Its hard enough for me to get anything done much less keeping a coherent enough photo record of it to make an interesting story.Plus the banjo is amazing to boot . Steve

muleskinner63 - Posted - 01/28/2011:  11:44:02


Hi Dan i can`t wait to see the project and all the detail`s , each day i look forward to a new post. Thank`s for letting us see the progress and work that go into a banjer that is not mass made by machines. thank`s for letting me plunk on it too!! your grateful student Ron

DanKnowles - Posted - 01/29/2011:  20:14:58


THE FINAL POST

You know, before I set about to write this my last post in this series, I looked back at the list of my postings, I don't know if you realize this but this ride we've been on started on hindered and seventy-seven days ago. It has been even longer since the original Jacobs banjo arrived on my doorstep from Paul Murphy. Little did I realize then what that banjo would lead too.

There have been so many fine and wonderful folks I met because of this. What a privilege it has been! This closing out of this chapter reminds me of the feeling I have, when, after reading all the way through THE LORD OF THE RINGS Bilbo, Frodo, Gandalf and the others depart from the Grey Havens. Were it not that I know that another of these rides awaits (with Bill Rickard) I would feel a bit lost. Still...



The road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Still far ahead the road has gone
and I must follow if I can.

Pursuing it with eager feat
Until it joins some larger way.
Where many paths and errands meet
And wither then I cannot say.


I certainly hope that it has been an enjoyable and informative ride for y'all, it has for me. Thank you for being my traveling companions.

Yours,
Dan Knowles

PS. This 'cheer link 'ull take y'all to the video of me playing on the Jacobs.



youtube.com/watch?v=UU4yeW0o8Ko









And the new...





























God Bless & Good Night.

DEmery - Posted - 01/30/2011:  03:24:16


Good morning Dan. What a great post to put a wrap on Birthing 1850. I had lost track of the days since your post started with the idea to create a copy of the Jacobs...but we have ridden down dusty banjo building trails before. I recall thinking about reproducing one of Uncle Dave's banjos (still cannot recall why since those Gibson RB-1 pieces are available with everything original except Dave's tobacco specs on the head); and 2 1/2 years later we had the ebony banjo. On my end it started with a discussion in a Birmingham parking lot and by the time the ebony banjo wrapped up, the company I moved from New York to work at in an effort to rebuild had gone bankrupt, I was unemployed, and I had plenty of time to pick the ebony banjo. Anyway, I look forward to watching you and Bill pull off the next project. It should be a dandy. Thanks for a great banjo; while early on Sunday I think it is a good time to drag it down and pick a tune. David E.

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