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Apr 1, 2021 - 2:28:22 PM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

While Connor McDoofus elbows KK (good thing it's only 2 Ks, not 3) in the head.

And pays chump change for it. And a lousy 2 minutes.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/conor-mcdavid-fined-oilers-hit-habs-nhl-1.5971166

Apr 1, 2021 - 2:35:22 PM
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Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

... Maybe les Habs are copying the Maple Laffs.... didn't the last TO cup win come with some fairly old players?


Especially a very hot goalie (Sawchuck) who kept them in the last game. The Habs had 41 shots on goal and the Maple Cheese scored an empty-netter for the 3-1 win.

Apr 1, 2021 - 7:50:46 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Paul R

While Connor McDoofus elbows KK (good thing it's only 2 Ks, not 3) in the head.

And pays chump change for it. And a lousy 2 minutes.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/conor-mcdavid-fined-oilers-hit-habs-nhl-1.5971166


Bettman & his henchmen know what side their bread's buttered on. 
(or as my long-suffering high school English teacher, Mrs. Linds.... aah, you know the drill)

Apr 1, 2021 - 8:30:23 PM

Owen

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I might have to adjust the aspect ratio on my TV.  Kotkaniemi always struck me as a bit scrawney looking, so I consulted my go-to source, <hockeydb.com> and see that he has an inch height and an 8 pound weight advantage over McDavid, so I don't see why he can't show C.M. the error of his ways sometime in the foreseeable future.

Having said that, I like watching McDavid's quickness, make seeing-eye passes and get himself into position to take a pass and get a shot off.  Reminds me of Crosby.  Heck, if he was in  Habs uniform he'd probably be 'way better'n Crosby. cheeky

So, should he have gotten a major or a bigger fine? ...or neither? ... or both?

Apr 1, 2021 - 8:52:44 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

Howe got away with nigh murder,, not Maurice, the Rocket,,,,go figger.
As for the Con man, he’s like Orr,, way,way better than anyone else as far as skating & speed, along with the good hands.
Toothless Bobby Clarke, the ex FF Bomber, once said about Orr “ it’s like he should be playing in the next league higher than the NHL”.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/01/2021 20:54:03

Apr 2, 2021 - 12:43:17 AM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

As for Connor, I don't know much about him except he's, uh, exceptional. I never figured him for a cheap shot artist. Of course, top players suffer clutch, grab, and chop issues from slower players, and the frustration can boil over. I hope this infraction is a one-off. But the refs and the league should do more. And the league needs to bring in a stiffer maximum penalty.

Apr 2, 2021 - 12:48:09 AM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

KK is a whole eight pounds heavier? Wow! And a whole inch taller? Man, he's Godzilla compared to McD! He should be able to crush him like a pop can!

Apr 2, 2021 - 8:28:21 AM

Owen

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Nah, Paul, not crush him.... more like former Wpg. Jet Chris Thorburn once opined:  "There are times in a game when a guy just needs a punch in the face."   wink

Fwiw, it did look like a cheap shot to me.  I've only heard the  expert analysts mention "frustration," with no mention of pay-back for something previously said or done.  Heck, maybe in one of the requisite after-the-whistle scrums J.K. invited C.M. out for beer and pizza, but spoke Finnish instead of da Henglish and  via "lost in translation" C.M. heard it as a slight?? 

I guess theoretically one is one too many, but have cheap shots reached the point of needing something more/different be done?  Nobody asked, but I think the checking/charging/boarding, ostensibly done to "separate the player from the puck" or "finish the check" or simply because a player "had his head down," should be higher up on the "to do" list.

Apr 2, 2021 - 6:14:32 PM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

I love* that "he shoulda kept his head up" comment, as if the victim is to blame for the infraction.

* When will someone devise a sarcasm font?

Apr 5, 2021 - 10:13:04 AM

Owen

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... fwiw, my Facebook feed today tells me that yesterday's date in 1971 was when a couple of good ones reached milestones...Howe  played his last regular season game for the Wings, ditto Beliveau w/Canadiens.   [From '73 to '80 Howe went on to play another 500 of his WHA/NHL total of 2186 games ..... apparently the average length of an NHL career is about 360 games.]

Edited by - Owen on 04/05/2021 10:16:43

Apr 5, 2021 - 11:39:09 AM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

How many NHL players played with their sons? Anyone else besides Gordie?

Apr 5, 2021 - 11:46:14 AM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

Hull had some "illegitimate" sons...... they might've made the NHL

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/05/2021 11:48:05

Apr 5, 2021 - 11:51:51 AM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Hull had some "illegitimate" sons...... they might've made the NHL


But did any of these progeny play on the same team with Dad?

We've had brothers - the Richards and Mahovliches come to mind (of course, les Habs), but fathers and sons? (Did any Sutterbrothers play on the same team?)

Apr 5, 2021 - 12:07:05 PM

Owen

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So far as I know the Howes were/are the only father son(s) combo.   Here's a list that somebody rates as the top (?) brother combos [I gather the list is far from exhaustive.]: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1545268-top-30-brother-combinations-in-nhl-history

And Chuck, yer slipping!!   #26 on ^^ list is Wayne and Chico Maki.   By the way, did I ever mention that Chico played with a team that had previously (?) won some sort of cup or other?   cheeky

Apr 5, 2021 - 12:26:57 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

Ah brothers are old hat,,, Dennis & Bobby,, Sutters,, Cooks,, Eddie & Shaq....

btw, I almost got to play with Chico,,, when he retired he almost joined the Simcoe Chiefs of the OHA Intermedate B league. I was playing for them at the time (1973) , it would have been a huge thrill. Ex-NHL'er Roy Edwards was tending the net for Caledonia. 
err, you might recognize the gent beside Chico in the team picture,,,, methinks he was a Manee-toe-ban
 

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/05/2021 12:36:03

Apr 5, 2021 - 1:08:52 PM
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Owen

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I played with quite a few guys that were pretty decent [using me as a standard], but I don't think any made a real career of it, although this one gave it a whirl: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=10229.   

But you never know.... a relative of mine played his minor hockey with Mike Commodore  https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=33952  and says that throughout, M.C. was generally # 5 or 6 on the defence corps and at best would have been given a remote chance of "making it."

You don't s'pose the team roster was leaked to Chico and factored into his decision, do you? cheeky 

Apr 5, 2021 - 1:32:03 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

No, he was at one of our games and his wife said, “No way you’re going to play with those bums!”

Apr 5, 2021 - 2:07:54 PM

Owen

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....and now that you mention Eddie and Shaq, one of my sisters was in Hudson Bay, SK, when he/they/?? and some team of All-Stars or Has-Beens played the yocal sr./intermediate team [no slouch in the region, btw] in a charity match of some sort.   She said even the guys like #23, not known for their "hands," would make the yocals look a little inept at "keep away" and the la-dee-da stuff.

Some teams in our North Central League have an ex-pro or two on their rosters [well, back when they had rosters, pre-Covid].  I'm always impressed with their anticipation, and how calm/confident they are with the puck [i.e. "You and I both know you're not takin' the puck away from me!"].

Apr 5, 2021 - 3:39:27 PM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

Our (Loyola College) hockey team once played the Canadiens old timers. The Warriors were a team on the rise, eventually headed for the national finals (even beating perennial champs U of T 1-0 in overtime in the semi). They potted a few goals and were looking kinda hot until the old guys turned it up a notch or three and showed how smoooooth they could be, and it was a clinic from then on. I forget the score, but the old boys won. Sort of like the guy who ropes you into a round of pool or poker, who suckers you in by losing the first game. Good thing nobody took bets.

Loyola became Concordia in '74 and the Stingers are habitual wannabes (but the women's team is always competitive).

There were nine of us (two women) in our department's graduating class and we iced a hockey team for fun. Not that we could actually play.

Apr 5, 2021 - 8:08:52 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

The few ex-juniors and pros that I played with or against were confident and calm for sure,,, they were used to much faster hockey and a lot less time to make decisions. We had a guy on defence in Simcoe who had played Tier 2 Junior, and some minor pro, ,, I came down the wing one time during practice with the puck in full stride , thought I had a step on him as I tried to whip by him,, nothin’ doing - he deftly “draped” me along the boards for about 15 feet. (I still have the burn marks on my left side)

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/05/2021 20:09:31

Apr 5, 2021 - 8:41:45 PM
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Owen

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Baylor 86 / Gonzaga 70.   yes      I hadn't watched college ball this year until March Madness, so I wouldn't call myself particularly knowledgeable, but I had it figured that Gonzaga was gonna do the deed.    All in all an entertaining tournament.

We just recently switched from satellite to cable, and I'm still trying to figure it out..... thought for a brief moment there maybe I'd missed the Frozen Four, but ... I'm in luck... April 8/10.

Pssst, Chuck.... you've probably figured it out by now, but you shoulda given him the "ol' how da ya do" and cut inside .... or probably a better option would have been to dump it in and have a team mate pick it up deep, and pass it out to you as you headed for the net.  cheeky

Edited by - Owen on 04/05/2021 21:01:13

Apr 5, 2021 - 9:03:31 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

I don’t subscribe to cable. Just Sportsnet now online for $19.99 per month,, hopefully they’ll have the Frozen Four. My TV gets 3 channels, so I get some football, racing, skiing, etc. and Sat. night hockey. How ‘bout those Expos, eh ?

Apr 5, 2021 - 9:36:05 PM
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Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

Yeah, how about those Expos?




Apr 5, 2021 - 9:39:35 PM

chuckv97

Canada

79606 posts since 10/5/2013

Everybody made fun of the Expos colours (yes, with a “u”) because at that time the standard was grey/gray or white, with just some coloured trim. It was only a few years later that all teams were flashing oranges, reds, golds, etc.  How 'bout that Coco Laboy, eh? "Laboy batted seventh in the inaugural game of the Montreal Expos versus the New York Mets on April 8, 1969, going 1-for-5 with 3 RBIs in the 11-10 win." 

"It was a cool November night almost 50 years ago today that Jacques Plante stunned the hockey world by putting on the facemask.

Such a protective device had been used before, but only as a temporary move to cover a head injury.

Clint Benedict was one NHL goaltender who used it briefly and Dennis Mooney, a goalie for the Atlantic City Sea Gulls, tried a sheer, curved plastic covering that proved unsuitable because it both fogged up and cracked under severe impact." excerpt from a 2009 Hockey News article by Stan Fischler. Dennis Mooney was our coach at U of Guelph my first year there.  I played on the taxi squad. 


si.com/hockey/news/anniversary...nnovation

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/05/2021 21:47:05

Apr 5, 2021 - 10:08:57 PM

Paul R

Canada

17424 posts since 1/28/2010

Can we call you a taxi?

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