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Mar 15, 2021 - 8:17:32 AM
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Owen

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..... even if he played it on an electric guitar??   cheeky 

[So far I've resisted the temptation, but I expect that before the day is out I'll check out HSR.... I have some sort of vague recollection, but........... .]

Mar 15, 2021 - 9:26:09 AM
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chuckv97

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I would never play in an arena with an electric organ either, gotta be a full-out pipe organ.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 03/15/2021 09:26:50

Mar 15, 2021 - 1:16:22 PM
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Paul R

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That kind of "arena" is more commonly known as a church.

Mar 15, 2021 - 1:31:42 PM

Owen

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Well I could hold out no longer........... indeed HSR is pretty bad, but it's not the one I had in mind.  It might be this one: 

Mar 15, 2021 - 1:33:16 PM

chuckv97

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Not always,,, remember the stadium-rattling old pipe organ in the old Chicago Stadium (they’ve now gone to the dark side and installed an (ugh) “electric” in the United Center)

Mar 15, 2021 - 1:35:37 PM

Paul R

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Honky the redneck Christmas goose.

Mar 15, 2021 - 1:49:43 PM
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Owen

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The United Center opened in 1994 [remain calm... I had to look it up]...  so you only missed your chance because your retired 20 years too soon.

In trying to see what happend to the organ I came upon this from 2016: https://www.donkey-show.com/?tag=chicago-stadium-organ    A snippet from well-down in the article says: "As far as the organ, upon closure, it was bought and put in a club for a while until the owner moved it to Arizona.  A warehouse fire destroyed some of the owners other Barton’s, but it would appear the stadium console survived.  According to undated sources, it is currently in the Las Vegas home of property magnate, Phillip Maloof."     That's < the console, dunno about the pipes.

Weren't TeePee players the property of the Hawks back in the day?   And I seem to recall hearing that the TeePees won a Memorial Cup or two, 'way back when!!   cheeky

Edited by - Owen on 03/15/2021 13:52:30

Mar 15, 2021 - 2:09:31 PM
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chuckv97

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Yup, they SHORE did!
Mikita was called up to the big club in ‘59,, took the train from near St. Catharines, was standing around waiting in the Chicago train station smoking a cigarette when he heard a raspy voice growl, “Put that *’^~ cigarette away, Stan - you’re in the big leagues now!” It was Rudy Pilous, coming to pick him up.

p.s. When I first took a truck load to Chicago I went down Madison St. to see where the old stadium ("The Madhouse on Madison") was,,, they erected a sculpture memorial of a bunch of former players on the site, across from the United Center.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 03/15/2021 14:20:53

Mar 15, 2021 - 3:02 PM

Owen

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Are those "real" players, or generic ones?  Any significance to having 3"- 6" of butt-end sticking out? 

I wasn't aware of this, https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/blackhawks-logo-statue-at-united-center-defaced-with-paint/  but I suppose it's not surprising.    

Mar 15, 2021 - 3:06:36 PM

chuckv97

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Well, the Black Hawks (Blackhawks) were named after a military battalion so didn’t fall into the “Braves, Redskins, Indians, etc. category.... sort of. To wit :

Furthermore, the National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) believes that all Native-themed logos, including that of the Blackhawks, "continue to profit from harmful stereotypes originated during a time when white superiority and segregation were common place."[169]

In 2019, the American Indian Center of Chicago ended all ties to the Chicago Blackhawks Foundation, stating they will no longer affiliate "with organizations that perpetuate stereotypes through the use of 'Indian' mascots." The AIC noted in its statement that they "previously held a relationship with the Chicago Blackhawks Foundation with the intention of educating the general public about American Indians and the use of logos and mascots. The AIC, along with members of the community have since decided to end this relationship" and stated that "going forward, AIC will have no professional ties with the Blackhawks, or any other organization that perpetuates harmful stereotypes."[170][171]

On July 7, 2020, the Blackhawks issued a press release to defend their team's name and logo. The team stated, "The Chicago Blackhawks name and logo symbolizes an important and historic person, Black Hawk of Illinois' Sac & Fox Nation, whose leadership and life has inspired generations of Native Americans, veterans and the public." The Blackhawks further stated they would "expand awareness" of Black Hawk and all Indigenous American contributions. The press release came after other American professional sports teams, including the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians, reevaluated their names and logos.[172]

The National Congress of American Indians, The American Indian Center of Chicago, The Chi-Nations Youth Council and over 1,500 Native organizations and advocates from over 150 federally recognized tribes across the country, including members of the Sac and Fox Nation, support changing the team name and logo.[173][174][175][176] Members of Black Hawk's family have also spoken out opposing the use of Black Hawk as a mascot and caricature logo.[177]

The Chi-Nations Youth Council (CNYC), an Indigenous youth organization in Chicago, has said "The Chicago Blackhawks name and logo symbolizes a legacy of imperialism and genocide." "As statutes of invaders, slave holders, and white supremacists fall across the nation so too should the images and language of the savage and dead 'Indians'." CNYC also noted "As social consciousness has grown over the past decades so has the Blackhawks performative gestures of buying their reprieve from those willing to sell out the health and humanity of our future generations."[178]

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The Blackhawks mascot is Tommy Hawk, an anthropomorphic black hawk who wears the Blackhawks' four feathers on his head, along with a Blackhawks jersey and hockey pants.[179] Tommy Hawk often participates in the T-shirt toss and puck chuck at the United Center.[179] He walks around the concourse greeting fans before and during the game.[179] The team introduced Tommy Hawk in the 2001–02 season.[180] Tommy Hawk was inducted into the Mascot Hall of Fame in 2019.[181]

Edited by - chuckv97 on 03/15/2021 15:15:13

Mar 15, 2021 - 4:51:21 PM

Paul R

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1972-73 Loyola Warriors - Loyola College, Montreal

They started using the logo after I graduated ('67), but I had a white windbreaker with a different "Indian head" image. Those were the days.


 

Mar 15, 2021 - 5:04:20 PM

Paul R

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Considering an acceptable image was already in the coat of arms ...


 

Mar 15, 2021 - 5:19:59 PM

Owen

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I figure ^^  all that's needed is a little imagination, along the lines of the Bisons in the mid-to-late 60s:   wink

Manitoba Bisons | Ice Hockey Wiki | Fandom

Edited by - Owen on 03/15/2021 17:24:43

Mar 15, 2021 - 7:27:20 PM

Paul R

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Need imagination all right - no image!

Mar 15, 2021 - 7:47:33 PM

Owen

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You mean you can't see a pic in my post?    Probably a problem with either your eyes or your computer. cheeky   Imagine a plain "M" about 14" high, 10" wide on the front of the sweater.  With eloquence like that, who needs a picture anyway?

Mar 15, 2021 - 8:59:30 PM
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Paul R

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Nope, no image.

But this M goes back a long way - Montreal Maroons of the NHL.


 

Mar 15, 2021 - 9:15:46 PM

chuckv97

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Looks like McMaster Marauders on the old OUAA

Mar 15, 2021 - 11:20:20 PM
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Paul R

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McMaster never won a Stanley Cup (duh!). The Maroons won in 1926 and 1935. My parents might (or might not) have been there in '35. They were English Montreal's team and I once heard some comment about the goalie tossing his stick in the air when the game ended.

Among players for the Maroons were Toe Blake, King Clancy, and Lionel Conacher.

Mar 16, 2021 - 5:19:21 PM

chuckv97

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Just a thought,, but did I ever mention the Memorial Cup-winning St. Catharines TeePees to yooz guys? Yep, it was 1954 with this guy, Brian Cullen, as captain - he set an OHA Junior A record with 68 goals and 161 points. Even played in the minors for the Winterpeg Warriors , but never quite caught on in the NHL although he bulged the twine 20 times one season for the Maple Laughs.  Pics are his TeePee days, and Leaf days getting filled in by Conn Smythe.

https://scshof.com/brian-cullen/

Edited by - chuckv97 on 03/16/2021 17:23:33

Mar 16, 2021 - 6:27:57 PM

Paul R

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In the photo, is he getting filled in or chewed out?

Mar 16, 2021 - 8:17:40 PM

chuckv97

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The “C” beside Smythe stands for “chewed out”, as in “Look spaghetti legs, you’re going back to Rochester!”

Mar 16, 2021 - 8:40:55 PM
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Owen

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Apparently it's yesterday's news:  March 15, 1970 Bobby Orr scored his 100th. point of the season... the first defenseman to reach that milestone.

I guess "it depends" but at this point I'm thinking that IF the CFL joins with the XFL I might be saying "adios."    Do I have any company?

Edit: I think as  a kid I had both of the Cullen's BeeHive pictures [Barry for sure].... Had all the Habs, most of the Maple Laffs and most of the stars from the other teams.... alas none of the pictures survived in good shape. 

Edited by - Owen on 03/16/2021 20:55:07

Mar 16, 2021 - 9:30:48 PM

Paul R

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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

I guess "it depends" but at this point I'm thinking that IF the CFL joins with the XFL I might be saying "adios."    Do I have any company?


Another bonehead move by the CFL. When I was a kid the CFL was the one yoy paid attention to. The NFI was "down there" and not much on the radar. Cable TV changed that, plus the $$$$ that the American game had. That plus the Toronto-centric Canadian sports media that were big on: 1) a domed stadium for Toronto, and 2) getting American sports league franchises, including the NFL.

I used to occasionally get to watch an Als game when a season ticket from my parents' crew came available. And they had spectating down to a science: blankets, flasks, mixer - everyone brought something and they had a good ol' social time in the stands. And the Als still use the same stadium.

If the CFL's goal is to say to the world, "We're bush league!" they're going about it quite efficiently.

Mar 16, 2021 - 10:28:31 PM

chuckv97

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We were lukewarm Tiger-Cat fans (35 miles down the QEW) but never saw a game live. Bernie Faloney, Garney Henley, Hal Patterson etal. It seems to have been a struggle in the east, not the west, to keep it viable. (and what ever will become of the “Banjo Bowl”, fer heaven’s sake!?)

Edited by - chuckv97 on 03/16/2021 22:29:04

Mar 16, 2021 - 10:49:01 PM
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Paul R

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An old Montreal institution was the Garbage Bowl, played by guys in green or red longjohns, on New Year's day - an answer to the American bowl games which took up most of the day. I never attended one, but it got coverage in the press. Apparently it's still going strong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_Bowl

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