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... and the hits just keep on coming
: https://globalnews.ca/video/10528134/don-cherry-statue-erected-on-mortlach-saskatchewan
Spoiler alert >>> 
Edited by - Owen on 12/27/2024 11:52:57
Not sure if this is what you’re after… it’s Jackie the Judge, with the Grim Reaper and PK Specialist Berg.
youtu.be/PExpfZLCCd4?si=3qwopZiR5_lORWaz
Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/27/2024 21:18:28
quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97Not sure if this is what you’re after… it’s Jackie the Judge, with the Grim Reaper and PK Specialist Berg.
youtu.be/PExpfZLCCd4?si=3qwopZiR5_lORWaz
It's not bad, but it's too small. Try this.

'Way back, some know-it-all said teams too often re-set (?) rather than get the puck toot-de-sweet back into the fray in the slot.
Is Ehlers kinda, sorta saying something similar in his comments about last nite's game: "Our power play, when we play it the right way and play it fast, get pucks to the net and get some chaos going, that's when we're at our best. When we work it around slow, it's not very good. … I think with the skill that we have on both our power plays, things will open up once you get that chaos going.” [My bold.]
Edited by - Owen on 12/29/2024 08:09:49
Well, those skilled defencemen u mention are exceptions to the usual Dennis O’Brien types… OTGAO.
The Pachal check,, he left the ice as he hit him (I could never unnerstand “he left his feet”).
So the obligatory fight ensues. Bee-es-ka says fight right away, clean or not,,, and figure it out later. Sheesh…
I still maintain if it’s within the rules & no penalty, fighting is ridiculous,, but the knuckle-draggers will say “no way,, send’em the message that you can’t run around all game body checking our guys!” ….. double sheesh
Not sure how to embed a vid from X, but for you Marchand haters - and I know you're out there - you gotta admire how he took one (two, actually) for the team last night. Blue Jacket Jack Johnson invited him to try farming once he retires by giving him a couple of ache-ers, and while still down Marchand inadvertently blocked a shot from team-mate Mason Lohrei from the other direction.
Didn't look comfortable back on the bench.
Re. "... if it’s within the rules & no penalty, fighting is ridiculous,, but the knuckle-draggers will say “no way,, send’em the message that you can’t run around all game body checking our guys!”
It's no revelation, but this knuckle-dragger* is less concerned with the messages that are sent for "body checking" than he is with the messages that aren't sent for running off at the mouth and hot-dogging it [after gaining a sizable lead]. I know there's no rule against hot-dogging it, but I still like to think there should be some "respect for the game" [whatever that means.
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How do you think the following should be handled: A player from team "A" is standing around, minding his own business, during a "scrum" and a player from team "B" comes up, grabs player "A" by the neck of A's sweater and starts jerking to/fro/back/forth, and then as likely as not tries to give "A" a half-hearted face-wash once the official has stepped in between?
* - But, but, but, lately I've been trying to breathe more thru my nose and less thru my mouth ... the jury's still out. ![]()
Edited by - Owen on 12/29/2024 18:10:43
Respect for the game? Thank you,, that’s what I’ve been expounding for years now,,, bring it up a notch into the more classy, beautiful sport that it is. But pugnacity and intimidation puts bums in the seats, so I’m not holding my breath. Chirping, trash-talking etc. is so common I can’t see it getting under players’ skins much ,,,, now, perhaps a super hotdog move like a 15 foot empty-netter slap shot is above and beyond the Queen’s Rules of Buckingham. Best way to shut up chirpers, as I’ve mentioned before, is to lay a few heavy body checks on them and run the score up to embarrass them. They’ll soon get the message that it’s to their disadvantage to rile up the opposition.
As for your example re player B against A, the ref should hand out a roughing, unsportsmanlike, and delay of game penalty - yes 6/six minutes in the sin bin. That should stop the repulsive hijinks.
Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/29/2024 19:56:14
When you say, "Best way to shut up chirpers, as I’ve mentioned before, is to lay a few heavy body checks on them and run the score up to embarrass them." are you talking theory or something the effectiveness of which has been widely demonstrated?
I don't get the connection: Player from team "A" is running off at the mouth. Player from team "B" gives him a (or a few) heavy body check(s). How does this lead to team "B" embarrassing team "A" by running up the score?
Instead of a heavy body check, why not an ache-er [as Skip mentioned above]? ... so long as the guy [team?] dishing it out is okay with the results, then everything should be kosher, no?
Effectiveness widely demonstrated,, now that sounds like the old joke/joak,,, “How long does it take to tune a banjo? …….. No one knows - nobody’s ever done it.”
I didn’t say there was a direct connection between heavy body checking and running up the score (although one might lead to the other). I proposed heavy body checks AND running up the score. If you can’t run up the score then at least the body checks might embarrass a player in his home barn.
I’d put “acher” in the dirty-play category,, not appropriate, I would guess, in Lord Stanley’s eyes.
(btw, if I posted these thoughts on some FB hockey “discussions” I’d be labelled WOKE, Karen, marshmallow, wimp, backdoor-hoser,,, you get the idea.
My conscience is clear now ; thank you.
What does it matter if something is "dirty"? Isn't the salient factor that it gets penalized, leading to an opportunity to run up the score [i.e. a real beautiful .... cough, splutter. cough .... part of any sport, IMNSHumbleO]. Was Avery's "sloppy seconds" comment acceptable? What about the "gamesmanship" (??) of somebody wants to taunt Bedard with b.s. about his mom and Perry? Or somebody trash-talking about an opponent's child's developmental delays? No body would pay much attention and if it's not penalized ..... s-u-r-e.
Btw, did the NHL have an era or even a few seasons where the general, over-all play embodied "the beautiful sport .... etc."?
I see mucho merit in Paul Stewart's stance >> https://www.instagram.com/thehockeybeast_com/p/DDzwERyvZtG/ ..... nothing worse than seeing a guy talk s*** and not back it up .... run around like as wholes ..... etc. Fwiw, I really like that last phrase .... it's a nice summation. Anybody that's played pretty much any team sport, even if not ultra competitively, knows what it entails.
Edited by - Owen on 12/30/2024 07:13:54
Well, I think we view the game through a different lens, Owen. I'd just like to see less of Stewart-types. Geez, the guy ends up a referee and he still wants to see guys get pounded to a pulp. Why don't these dysfunctional goons take up boxing or martial arts? And yeah, I'd like to see the trash talking stop too. Maybe I'm expecting too much.
Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/30/2024 09:57:42
Oh, apparently I've totally misinterpreted things ... I thought you condoned/defended trash talking. Or is it just in hockey you'd like to see it stop?
What do you propose to start/advance a "no more trash talking" movement (?) in hockey?
I hope we see it thru different lenses ... I wouldn't want anybody to think I see running of at the mouth as something that's irrelevant or easily pooh-poohed away. Fwiw, I see it as a precursor to stick work and dust-ups. My logic says clamping down on trash talking would be a natural starting point .... and then deal with the other residual/remaining problem(s) ... deal with a cause rather than the symptom??
In leagues that, for all intents and purposes, have gotten rid of fighting per se, I don't know just how it's being handled ... haven't heard of any analysis of the QMJHL's efforts. I hope it's not by replacing it with scrums, headlocks and face-washing.
[Implementation of a triple minor you mention could prove "interesting," as would the ref's efforts at consistency/fairness.]
I haven't read Stewart's book ... did he say he wants to see guys pounded to a pulp?
Edit: My daughter and SIL who have kids in youth basketball in AB apparently are seeing 'way too much taunting [gestures and hand motions more so than verbal] filter down from the NBA. I don't watch NBA, so was unaware that it's occurring at that level.
Edited by - Owen on 12/30/2024 12:15:13
Yes, I minimized the effects of trash-talking but I'll admit I'm wrong about that. Maybe kids should be taught in peewee already not to emulate the trash-talking and other antics that the pros display,, it’s a start anyway to change the “hockey culture” , but again it’s the pugnacity that sells, so….
I’ve just read things or heard interviews about Stewart over the years,,,,, as a player he was a vicious lunatic at times.
Most of my criticism of hockey goonery comes from back when I was playing ,, people outside the game would almost always ask about the fighting first… it bothered me that the great game had such a crummy reputation. I seem to remember Gretzky saying at one time that fighting should be eliminated, even though he benefited from it being a skinny 170 pounder.
(and lest I not forget the raisin d'etre for this thread, DCMD , as I mentioned before, made boatloads of dough from those Rock'em Sock'em videos,, then turns around and called the enforcers, after 3 of them committed suicide, a bunch of drug addicts. )
p.s. , interesting about b-ball , I also didn't know the pros were going that way lately. I was just about to mention that other sports didn't have the goon/enforcer/fighting issues
Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/30/2024 12:24:05
".... bunch of drug addicts..." sounds like trash talking to me ... so it shouldn't get under players' [people's?] skins?!?!!?? ![]()
For me it says more about him than it does about the problems (?) of fighting and running off at the mouth in hockey. I hope that the fact that he made money on his videos hasn't skewed my perception or rationale(?) too much.
Edit: I see the issues of a) goons/enforcers and b) a fight stemming from an infraction [generally a stick infraction], or giving a guy a shot in the yap for yapping as pretty much separate and distinct issues. Was Ted Lindsay a goon?
Edited by - Owen on 12/30/2024 12:46:00
I didn’t see enough of Lindsay to know if he was a dirty player himself or not. I suspect he gave back more than he took. As for DC making $$ from his videos, more power to him. But to me he besmirched (is that still a word?) the whole enforcer gang after profiting from riding their coat tails , i.e. a floater
Well, I'm just relieved that we don't have to "solve" the problems that plague chess. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chess-champion-returns-tournament-fined-wearing-jeans-rcna185789
... and furthermore I see Jets at Predators is only on "Prime" and I don't see any other games on Westman.
However in the past couple of weeks I've stumbled on Maple Laffs games being broadcast where my listing says "Blacked Out" ... C'est la vie?!?!?
Take care, Chuck .... our supper news says there's a bad dude on the loose in N. W. Calgary.
Edit: For a game with "beauty" maybe we need to take a page from F.N. hockey/shinny/?? [at least from decades back... possibly a stereotype?] ... all offense, no back checking or stop-start ... non-stop "flow." ![]()
Edited by - Owen on 12/30/2024 16:18:13
I get prime for free,, not you?
I’m staying in, & barricading myself in my closet ,, ya never know…..
as for jeans,, I do remember them being outlawed at Grantham High ,, only corduroy's, chinos, or pressed pants allowed. Mrs. Lindsay wielded a strong influence on our vice principal "Spike" Jones.
Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/30/2024 16:24:48
As for practicing music….. I give you this
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It reminds me of this ….
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