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El Dobro - Posted - 10/02/2006: 20:59:48
I was going through the junk drawer today and ran across my prewar flathead ring Verifyer. This is the real thing and not one of those Taiwanese made knock-offs. This one was made by the company that came out with the original Verifyers, Hoyt-Clagwell and is the very rare "illuminated" model. I thought you guys might want to see the real thing.
Don
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grich - Posted - 10/02/2006: 23:10:50
It also works great as a trailor hitch ! have 2 of them....
Greg Rich
flake - Posted - 10/02/2006: 23:16:22
Don---I've not seen one of those since I was just a kid, and never thought I'd see one again. My Papaw Kelly's brother, Denver Colorado Kelly had one, and he always brought it with him when he would come back East to visit. Us kids would pester him continually about it. Eventually, sometimes after dinner on the front porch, he'd let us all look at it, but I never got to see it close up. Boy does that bring back memories. 
mike
mponzi - Posted - 10/02/2006: 23:23:18
Are you sure that's not a pre-war head tuner? I know it's "pre-war" though, 'cause it says "Pat Pending."
Marsh
Edited by - mponzi on 10/02/2006 23:24:25
El Dobro - Posted - 10/03/2006: 09:05:25
quote:
Originally posted by mponzi
Are you sure that's not a pre-war head tuner? I know it's "pre-war" though, 'cause it says "Pat Pending."
Marsh
hidehead - Posted - 10/03/2006: 09:34:38
Don,
No wonder you can't verify a 19 hole, prewar, flat head ring! Look at the threads, you haven't done any routine upkeep in years
Lube the threads with "snake oil" before you screw it next time. Curtis uses
"Satan be Gone Powder" on his and it works great, illuminated or not
Village Music
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hidehead - Posted - 10/03/2006: 09:46:25
Thats a good one Don A coil pack! You had me goin' there for a while. Everybody knows the Hoyt-Clagwell Verifyer operates on mentally transfered kinetic energy.
hidehead
Village Music
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lovedembones - Posted - 10/03/2006: 09:51:14
I had one like that once, except that it was Gold Plated!
Lovedembones
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flake - Posted - 10/03/2006: 10:53:09
Wow Chris! The Throckmorton List only shows somewhere between 35-46 of those with gold plate and illumination. Occasionaly I have heard of people mixing parts to get that apparent combination though----ya gotta be careful!
mike
davepicks5 - Posted - 10/03/2006: 11:09:28
Don
Dat is one humbucking goot lookin one....has it been tonally enhanced by spinning it on a wheel balancer..... Dave 
baygawker - Posted - 10/03/2006: 18:56:01
Don ... i know you are a respected regular here at BHO and i am in no position to challange your claim. However, there is a little known government funded entity which was set up in the early 1950's for the very purpose of authenticating these pre war tone ring verifiers. The agency has become affectionatly known as "TRAVIS" (Tone Ring Authenticity Verifier Inspection Service).
One of the top inspectors happens to be a friend of mine and i have contacted him about your find. He said he will be happy to authenticate your tone ring verifier using the latest technology, a device he called a "TRITT" (Tone Ring Identification Tool Tester).
If you are willing to submit your rare and collectable Hoyt-Clagwell to the scrutiny of an expert i'm sure he will agree to supply you with a signed letter of authenticity. This will certainly silence the doubts of any skeptical BHO members, and as a further benifit you will have written documentation that it is indeed an all original model should you decide to sell it one day. Please contact me (off forum) if you ever have the inclination to sell. Even if this is a floor sweep or a frankenstien, you really are a lucky dog ! Here is a photo of my friend with the geniune TRAVIS TRITT PW tone ring verifier authenticator at his side ...
Edited by - baygawker on 10/03/2006 18:58:22
fitch5string - Posted - 10/03/2006: 21:52:05
BS ! Thats an anaroid compensator adjuster off of a 1953 Mercedes 190D. Give me a break ~!
Cliff Fitch
Azle, Texas
1983 Deering Maple Blossom
Edited by - fitch5string on 10/03/2006 21:52:25
grich - Posted - 10/03/2006: 22:54:03
It's as plain as day ! thats the heating device which cooked the ballpark frank armrest ! of course it wound up being the death of the greatest armrest ever designed due to out of work musicians who were forced to eat their banjos.....
Greg Rich
GerhardP - Posted - 10/04/2006: 09:35:13
Don,
I am not taking this lightly at all ! Could you please check your's for the duplex socket, the reason I'm asking is the tonering below. A guy I once met near a dumpster in Michigan gave me documentation showing this tonering was made on Monday, Jan 2, 1933 at about 6:30 am. Yet my verifyer (with duplex unit) gives me inconsistent readouts. I was hoping if your's has adjustable strobe and can even deal with 19 hole rings I might get a better readout for the holes in this one.
Gerhard
"Most bullet holes in banjos are a result of poor aim"
(Fretless Josh Saw in BNL July '02)
Edited by - GerhardP on 10/04/2006 09:37:31
lovedembones - Posted - 10/04/2006: 09:54:13
I laid my verifyer aside some years ago.
After diligent search, I can verify my inability to verify the location of my bonafide verifyer.
Lovedembones
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El Dobro - Posted - 10/04/2006: 20:03:48
quote:
Originally posted by GerhardP
Don,
I am not taking this lightly at all ! Could you please check your's for the duplex socket, the reason I'm asking is the tonering below. A guy I once met near a dumpster in Michigan gave me documentation showing this tonering was made on Monday, Jan 2, 1933 at about 6:30 am. Yet my verifyer (with duplex unit) gives me inconsistent readouts. I was hoping if your's has adjustable strobe and can even deal with 19 hole rings I might get a better readout for the holes in this one.
Gerhard
"Most bullet holes in banjos are a result of poor aim"
(Fretless Josh Saw in BNL July '02)
davepicks5 - Posted - 10/05/2006: 13:24:33
This is one "wicked sense of humor" thread....
It has become, IMHO, was of the most creative series of posts ever on the Hangout.
With that being said, does tyour Verifyer have a prewar digital readout tape documenting the following physical characteristics?
1. Lathe grooves per thousandth of an inch
2. Size and locations of burrs left in 19 or 20 holes
3. Depth and location of casting pits compared to Earl's ring.
Don, thanks so much in advance for this information.
Dave.
BlueBanjo28 - Posted - 10/05/2006: 16:06:45
I put my verifier on your posted picture and read 40 holes. Definitely a prewar.
quote:
Originally posted by El Dobroquote:
Originally posted by GerhardP
Don,
I am not taking this lightly at all ! Could you please check your's for the duplex socket, the reason I'm asking is the tonering below. A guy I once met near a dumpster in Michigan gave me documentation showing this tonering was made on Monday, Jan 2, 1933 at about 6:30 am. Yet my verifyer (with duplex unit) gives me inconsistent readouts. I was hoping if your's has adjustable strobe and can even deal with 19 hole rings I might get a better readout for the holes in this one.
Gerhard
"Most bullet holes in banjos are a result of poor aim"
(Fretless Josh Saw in BNL July '02)
Yours has a duplex unit?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don
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El Dobro - Posted - 10/05/2006: 18:13:39
quote:
Originally posted by davepicks5
This is one "wicked sense of humor" thread....
It has become, IMHO, was of the most creative series of posts ever on the Hangout.
With that being said, does tyour Verifyer have a prewar digital readout tape documenting the following physical characteristics?
1. Lathe grooves per thousandth of an inch
2. Size and locations of burrs left in 19 or 20 holes
3. Depth and location of casting pits compared to Earl's ring.
Don, thanks so much in advance for this information.
Dave.
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