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bricklifter1 - Posted - 10/28/2011:  21:55:43



So how many people did u end up interviewing?



 



chris


frailin - Posted - 10/29/2011:  14:38:15



The NW swing was 8 interviews.  Seven were builders:



John Bowlin (got RD Lunceford his'sefl playing his 1865 Fretless)

Dr. Patrick (Doc) Huff

Mark Platin

Brooks Masten

Jason Mogi

Jason and Pharis Romero

Chuck and Tanya Ogsbury



I also interviewed the good folks at Dusty Strings about marketplace trends.  smiley



As of today (Saturday), John's Program is mostly finished (a few touches left) and I'm close to having Doc Huff's roughed out.  I'll have everyone in the NW Swing finished before Christmas.  Dunno when I'll head to California for the final group.  I do want to make it soon.  Looking forward to having this Series complete.  



I heard many "themes" with the NW group of builders.  I'm excited to see if I can capture them for you to experience.  As with the Eastern Swing, I got to see some terrific banjos.  big


bricklifter1 - Posted - 10/30/2011:  06:05:18



Including california, do you think you'll end up with more people than the eastern collection?



 



chris


frailin - Posted - 10/30/2011:  07:27:33



The Eastern Swing had 14 builders and 3 extras.  



Right now there remain 4 more builders to include (and complete) the North American Banjo Builder Series... all from California:



Bob Flesher

Bob Thornburg

Greg Deering

Colin Vance



Added to the NW Swing's 7, that totals 11 builders for Volume 2.  I have some thoughts for "extras" I'm kicking around.  We'll see how it pans out.  



Total North American Builders both series = 25.  



What was I thinking!?!   shock



Edited by - frailin on 10/30/2011 07:31:16

bricklifter1 - Posted - 10/31/2011:  10:58:21



I just had a thought:  Mark Hickler.  He's not only a builder, but he has influenced MANY other builders with his rim lathes (brooks masten has one--i'm sure you saw it).  Actually I think he's in arizona.....maybe in volume 3



 



chris


frailin - Posted - 10/31/2011:  11:49:14



As I've posted several times throughout the 23 pages of this thread (so far), this project was never designed to be "comprehensive."  There are literally hundreds if not thousands of fine banjo builders out there.  My original "birthday present to me" was to visit those mentioned most frequently at BHO... those recognized for excellence in their work.  But I knew up front I would be limited by time, budget and logistics not to mention other resources.  Ten to twelve builders would have been more logical.  But for some reason, I wanted to reach at least 24.  So much for being an over-achiever.   smiley



The builders were also selected by objective criteria including:  They build banjos as their craft and livelihood (versus hobby).  They've made a minimum of 20 banjos for sale (to others). Most have built them for over 5 years.  As a double-check, before final selection I compared my list of builders to that of ethnomusicologist Richard Jones-Bamman who is preparing a book on banjo builders.  Remarkably, we immediately agreed on 25 out of 27.  



Clearly, many builders were (unfortunately) not able to be included in Volumes 1 and 2.  But physically and financially, I have to hold the numbers to 24-25. 



If there IS a Volume 3, it will be Banjo Builders OUTSIDE North America.  I've already had supportive and generous BHO members offer to send me funds to help with the costs for a trip to Europe.  I have to admit, it's most intriguing.  But if I did the project, I would need BHO members from the UK, France, Denmark and more to help me make it happen.  I would need lodging and - MORE IMPORTANTLY - people to pick me up and drive me where I need to go. They could also assist in my filming (and be listed as a "friend" at the end of the Program).  So there's some fun it in for them, too.  



So... it's on the table.  Just dunno when.



I'm sure the folks at Smithsonian Folkways wouldn't mind.  smiley


flatfootjohnny - Posted - 10/31/2011:  15:42:57


Ive just received my copy of volume 1. As an aspiring banjo builder, i am finding it fascinating and invaluable. Thanks for such a great project.

Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 10/31/2011:  15:52:42



I think it is time you quit your day job and just become the Charles Kuralt of the Banjo World.



 


J-Walk - Posted - 10/31/2011:  17:47:14



 I have to admit, it's most intriguing.  But if I did the project, I would need BHO members from the UK, France, Denmark and more to help me make it happen.  I would need lodging and - MORE IMPORTANTLY - people to pick me up and drive me where I need to go.



I'm sure  you know about this, Craig. But just in case it's not in your radar: Old Time Musicians of Europe. Seems like a great group of people.



 


frailin - Posted - 11/01/2011:  07:33:32



Alan Lomax vs Ken Burns



 



Fellow BHO member and writer Mike Buchman covered two banjo programs in several cover stories this week.  Here are links:  



victorymusic.org/index.php?opt...Itemid=43



nodepression.com/profiles/blog...cendant-5



I'm grateful for the ink.  But in response to his critiques on the amateur nature of my work, please know my self-funded, self-produced effort to document the stories of the Banjo Builders in no way can compete with a production the level of The Banjo Project.  



The Banjo Builder Programs were never intended to air on PBS.  And I've offered them for sale for less than the cost of production because, through this thread, I know there are others like me out there that appreciate learning first-hand about this incredible group of people.  Making money off the sharing of my adventure was not on the table.  Promoting the stories of the Builders and their pursuit of their creative goals and lifestyles was.  I'd be delighted to break even.  



As far as comparing production values, it is what it is, folks. Rasp marks and all.  I ain't selling my work beyond the best-effort-to-tell-a-story that it is.  Beyond me and Richard Jones-Bamman, nobody else is out there talking to and documenting the Builders. 



I would argue that field recordings are more about content that production values.  I seriously doubt an Alan Lomax in-the-field effort put up against a Ken Burn show would fare much better.  



After learning what he did, I had asked Mike to write something up for the Banjo Builder Project.  And he did.  I am grateful for the press.  But be advised, folks.  I ain't a Ken Burns.  I don't want to position my work as anything more than it is... a field recording of my adventure to capture an incredible moment in banjo-building time.  



Craig



Edited by - frailin on 11/01/2011 07:35:45

StraitsBlueGal - Posted - 11/01/2011:  08:00:11



Craig,



I think the Banjo Builder DVD is great - it shows your knowledge and passion for the subject, and it is covering something that no one else really is.  And it was obviously made with joy.



In life in general, everything we do could be "more" of something by someone else's standards - but that doesn't mean what we do is flawed either.  As a frustrated creative writer I am immensely impressed by what you did with Banjo Builders - the time it took, the recording and production (and grant and marketing) skills required, and the fact that you had a creative idea and finished it!  You probably know how rare it is for a person to get past the early planning stages - too easy to just quit.  You did it, finished it, are selling copies, it's on the Elderly web site - you are already so far beyond everyone who had an idea and not the time and dedication to do something with it.   So you aren't Ken Burns, and I'm  sure not Emmylou Harris, etc etc etc - that doesn't mean anything or anyone is wrong with this picture.



 



btw I can find Ken Burns very cloying at times - maybe you don't want to be him.


Castania - Posted - 11/01/2011:  14:14:28



Craig



No matter what you do, or how well you do it, someone will find something they don't like about it.  But rest assured, most of us truly enjoyed the first round of interviews.  I find no fault in the editing, framing, etc. -- who cares anyway?  It is what it is:  a guy with some cameras and tripods, doing what most of us wish we had time to do, and doing it well. 



 



I want to hear what's being said.  When I'm studying the "framing," I'm looking to see what interesting stuff is in the background! . . . and I like the repeated questions:  it puts everyone on a level playing field which makes the inner motivation easier to compare/contrast, something I find very interesting.



Keep up the great work, friend . . . I look forward to the next round!



Ken



 


clawhammermike - Posted - 11/02/2011:  11:34:24



I think the article about you was right on Craig.  His few critical points are overwhelmingly supplemented by the magic that is your DVD.  


frailin - Posted - 11/02/2011:  12:12:48



Thanks for the encouraging, reassuring words, folks.  I was concerned the ultimate outcome (reach) of the Banjo Builder project might be jeopardized when the issues of my "amateur" shortcomings were deliberately raised.  Comparing the values and techniques of my self-funded, part-time, one-man-band production with The Banjo Project is hardly equitable.  Besides, I would prefer people focus on the greater good of the messages contained in this Series - or even the drive to assemble it - rather than my flaws and failures as a first-time film-maker.



There's another Banjo Builder message I'm hoping someone, somewhere articulates.  The Banjo Builders represent courage... they personify the "strength to purse a creative goal."  As artists, the Builders faced fears to do what they do.  Many sacrificed financial security and opened themselves up to criticism in order to follow their creative calling/gifting.  Fear can be a terrible motivator.  But facing fear is even harder.  Most run away.  Not this group.  The Builders did it... they faced and then overcame their fears in order to do what they do.  Some are still doing it.  But look at them.  They're thriving!  Joyously thriving. Consider for a moment how artists of all ages and mediums can learn from the Builder's examples.  



I took a lesson from the Builders in facing my fears as a first-time film-maker.  Didn't stop me from doing the work... or taking the shots (I'm not saying they don't hurt).  But like the Builders, I'd do it again in a heartbeat.  I feel the powerful messages these folks personify are that important.  



Thanks for supporting the Banjo Builder Project folks.  I'm so proud of these guys - and you as the community - that I could burst.  smiley


plunknplinkntwang - Posted - 11/02/2011:  16:05:44



Craig



I read the reviews and thought them as critical rather than negative with the critique being centered around the video perfection not the concept.  It's possibly no consolation but the fact that you found the time, energy, creativeness and resolve to create the end product is a gazillion percent better than the "good idea" that doesn't get done!   Sure it could be more slick, but this would have detracted from the simple honesty and would have made the experience less memorable.  Also remember your audience - we are mainly Old Time fans, if we want slick we'd have spangle dangle jackets with shoulder pads and play blue grass.  I was surprised that the DVD had a back cover and that the DVD played without having to lodge a small piece of foam into the player to get the sound  just right :)



But I do disagree with the comment about the limitation of using a standard set of questions, the uninteresting answers were just as informative as the more esoteric. 



Count me in for the next editions, and if you do come over to the UK let me know in advance, we've a spare room, I'll make time to be available and my family have already been introduced to you through the DVD's.   My wife finally found something banjo that she enjoyed and my 11 & 14 yr old sons both insisted that I didn't play the DVD's without them being in attendance.  We were all captivated by the normality of the makers and the simplicity of the documentaries.



So from a music critics perspective the series was amateur, from an end users perspective it exceeded expectations. 



My favorite was Bart Reiters interview.  It was fantastically frank & equally funny!  Close second was Doug Unger, his art analysis was illuminating.  Third was Greg Gailbraith, possibly as the scenery was the most appealing [Sorry if names are incorrectly spelt]



Here's to looking forwards to the next editions of amateur documentaries; the product is more than adequate and requires more personal commitment than better funded film makers are willing to devote.



Thank you



Chris



 



Edited by - plunknplinkntwang on 11/02/2011 16:07:25

srrobertsiii - Posted - 11/02/2011:  17:12:18


Craig,

I thought the comment Mr. Buchman made at the end of his review was by far the most telling: "All in all these criticisms are minor compared to this LANDMARK PROJECT (emphasis mine) that will have an energizing impact on banjo players and old-time music lovers." Yours is indeed a landmark project, as witnessed by the immense support for it expressed above, the enthusiasm it has generated here on the BHO over the last several months, and the larger support from grant foundations, etc. I remember your saying at the outset something to this effect: You believe it is as, if not more, important to affect one person deeply than to affect many in only a cursory way. That stuck with me. And now your project has, in fact, affected and inspired many folk very deeply, with ripples outward that can go quite a ways farther still. Very well done!

Sam Roberts

blockader - Posted - 11/02/2011:  18:07:25



frankly, i thought the production aspects were quite slick and exceeded my expectations. i haven't had a TV in 10 years so maybe things have changed but the production aspects of most of the cable programming i can remember was well below your own. my only complaint is that i wish the episodes had been several hours long, each. lol.



critics have to find something to criticize lest they be accused of not be critics at all.



-justin


Pine Cone - Posted - 11/02/2011:  19:14:44


The most serious problem with your series is noted in his closing comments...

Government-mandated warning: Conversations will undoubtedly spark a virulent outbreak of Banjo Acquisition Syndrome.


Before I saw any of your videos I had a few banjos including a couple from Bill Rickard. Now I find myself on a downward path of acquisition due the curse of addtional knowledge of interesting builders.

First it was a Jason Burns (#16) and just a couple of weeks ago I found myself buying Bart Reiter's #385. That gives me 3 of the first 14 builders, and I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering when I might be able to get my hands on banjos from some of the other 11 builders.

Now there is the prospect of adding another 11 builders so I am clearly falling behind... looks like it could be an expensive decade of BAS for many people here...

cmox - Posted - 11/02/2011:  20:00:35


Craig: I LOVED your banjo builder interviews and enjoyed the relaxed, personal feel of each one. It felt like I was THERE. I'll be watching PBS this Friday and I'm sure I'll enjoy Give Me the Banjo....but I'm REALLY looking forward to your next video.

Connie

Riley Stokes - Posted - 11/03/2011:  11:38:21


Wow, I hope someday I can post a topic that draws 23 pages of comments! It's too much to read, so if someone else suggested this, I apologize.

Maybe it's beyond your scope, Craig, but I'd be interested to hear what a couple of importers of Asian-made banjos have to say. The instrument itself and the most of the music played on it are as American as can be. Yet there are many good-sounding, good-playing, good-looking import models out there, and many designed by people, Americans primarily, who know and love the instrument. When I got serious about clawhammer just last summer and wanted to step up from what I had, I deliberately bought an openback made by a prominent American small-production maker often mentioned in this thread. Yet, when doing so, I had to jump over many tempting imports, all substantially less expensive than the one I bought. So how important is "made in America" to U.S. banjo buyers? For me the answers were "quite a bit and "worth paying for." For other buyers and players... well, an importer might tell you where and why people draw the line.

"Riley"
Bruce

frailin - Posted - 11/03/2011:  11:45:35



A Worth suggestion, Riley... but somewhat off topic for the focus of my venture ("Conversations with North American Banjo Builders").  



Perhaps I could find a retailer of both categories of banjo (US and Imported) that could do a "compare and contrast" from the viewpoint of the customer and retailer.  Maybe more.  I am planning on talking to folks at Buffalo Bros and Gryphon.  Dunno everything they carry.  



But there might be a perspective there.  



Craig



 


Brooklynbanjoboy - Posted - 11/03/2011:  13:25:22



Pine Cone raises a worthwhile subject.  How many of the readers of this thread own banjos made by makers profiled by Craig?



 



I have two Jason Burns banjos.



I have owned two Mike Ramsey banjos.



I have owned one by Lo Gordon, and two by George Wunderlich.



But my current arsenal includes only two by Jason.



The reader who has the largest number of banjos in their inventory built by the makers depicted in Craig's videos wins one of Craig's famed Pirate Shirts. 



 



Lew


DEmery - Posted - 11/03/2011:  13:38:18



Have two Flesher banjos. One additional Flesher in the past that went to a collector in Japan. Just gave up possession of a Lo Gordon. Too bad you didn't include good friend and long time builder Dan Knowles that has built several projects on BHO. I have more Knowles banjos than Dan Knowles himself. David E.



Edited by - DEmery on 11/03/2011 13:40:13

GSCarson - Posted - 11/03/2011:  13:46:19



Craig,  I continue to be really impressed with what you have accomplished so far with this project.  I read your initial post about your idea with great interest, followed the idea as it grew and took root, observed your focus in person while you stayed with us to film Kevin Enoch and Pete Ross, watched the Eastern Swing video's, and have continued to read and watch reactions as the videos have been distributed to the BHO and public.  I think you have done an outstanding job with bringing out the inside stories of these builders and ultimately generating interest in and respect for our favorite instrument.   As far as the critiques go, I personally like things are are "real".  These interviews were real, and I know that was an objective.  I find most of today's music, tv and other media heavily processed and largely uninteresting for that reason.  After listening to homemade live music recordings, I often find it dull to listen to heavily processed and over produced music cd's, and I'll pick the live recordings any day over most of the other stuff.  Maybe I'm too close to it all, but I think what you've filmed works very well and wouldn't change a bit, except maybe to make them all full feature length......  Glenn



 



 


Riley Stokes - Posted - 11/03/2011:  15:50:14


Craig -- Yes, a retailer; much better idea. After all, what's an importer going to tell us? "Sure, our banjos are made in China, but they're pretty good and they're a lot cheaper." Etc. I mean, it's obvious.

I didn't used to be such a "Buy American" guy, but face it: American workers have to pay U.S. prices for goods and mortgages and healthcare and educations for their kids, so they deserve to earn our wages. I think we all ought to sympathize with the solo or small-shop instrument builders. They have a lot in common with artists, and art is a tough gig.

Bruce

P.S. No offense to Canadians. I have a couple of Canadian guitars. I'm guilt-free there. I just plain like Canadians, OK?

StraitsBlueGal - Posted - 11/03/2011:  17:32:55



quote:


Originally posted by Brooklynbanjoboy




Pine Cone raises a worthwhile subject.  How many of the readers of this thread own banjos made by makers profiled by Craig?



 



I have two Jason Burns banjos.



I have owned two Mike Ramsey banjos.



I have owned one by Lo Gordon, and two by George Wunderlich.



But my current arsenal includes only two by Jason.



The reader who has the largest number of banjos in their inventory built by the makers depicted in Craig's videos wins one of Craig's famed Pirate Shirts. 



 



Lew






I keep looking at Reiters, but wanted a 12" pot and found myself with a woody Chuck Lee, and coveting Romeros and Brooks.  One banjo for each finger and toe, right?  Isn't that the rule?  They've already outnumbered mammals in my house.


clawhammermike - Posted - 11/03/2011:  21:11:26



I am just wondering how many banjos craig has now?  One from each maker?


frailin - Posted - 11/04/2011:  07:04:54



Editing update - When YOU can see the new shows. 



 



I'm about half-way through Mark Platin's story.  Wow.  And John Bowlin and Doc Huff's Programs are now 95% there.  Everyone has terrific tales and demos... and banjos!  And I know what's waiting to be assembled with Brooks Masten, Jason Mogi, Jason and Pharis Romero and Chuck and Tanya Ogsbury.  There is some great history (and entertainment) here.  Once finished (before Thanksgiving), there's no way I can keep these stories to myself... they're just too good.  I want to share now.  But I can't make another DVD until the California Swing is finished.  Been thinking about how to do this this a lot.  



I'm now thinking, if you're willing, I'll offer Volume 2 for sale sometime next month (takes a bit to set it up).  Once you purchase, I'll issue you Passwords to Vimeo so you can immediately view the Programs.  Then, when the remaining Builders are done, I'll compile Volume 2 and ship it to you.  I kinda sorta did this with Volume 1 and you folks were amazingly honest about it.  With just a handful of exceptions, everyone that said they would buy a DVD, did.  I was pretty sure the trust was well placed.  smiley



Ok.  So I'm looking for some feedback.  Would you folks be "ok" with purchasing Volume 2 now (and watching Programs as I finish them) and then take delivery on the DVDs sometime next summer?



A few others points to note:  



Field Recordings are always a challenge.  Once I arrive at a Builder's home/shop, I've got less than 2 hours to setup, capture their stories, tour their shops, take some snap shots, tear down and move on.  It's kind of a "SWAT" like thing.  But intensely exciting and fun!  



There is ALWAYS a challenge with variables and constraints.  For instance:  I never know what kind of lighting will be present.  Or how much room I'll have to work with.  So if you see one of my cameras in the screen, there's a pretty good reason for it (there was no other place to put it).  And since it's essential to the work, it is what it is.  



Often I'm in basements, garages and converted outbuildings.  Fortunately, the  Builders that used them have since moved out of their bus workshops. Then there's noises and backgrounds.  Garbage trucks, airplanes, roosters, trains, barking dogs, kids, runners and drunken parties on canoes are wild cards.  You never know when one could come bounding across your screen... or screaming into your earphones.  More fun.  



All in all, this is some of the most unpredictable, exciting work I've ever done.  In using the questions I do, I'm able to provide the Builders with some curriculum ahead of time.  They're nervous when I get there.  Consider most of them have never been interviewed before.  They don't know what to expect.  Giving them questions to address not only helps them focus, it allows me an opportunity to put them all in perspective to each other.  I'm amazed at how well most of them have adapted to this routine.  I've really been able to see how they are as "people."  Every one of them has been just as pleasant as you could have imagined.  And so hospitable.  I wish I lived closer so I could hang with them all. 



------



You folks have raised some questions about my banjo collection habits in response to this work.   I still have my two players (I bought them from Zepp and Chuck Lee years ago).  Bart Reiter has since sent me a banjo as a gift for conducting this project.  But that's Bart.  He's that kind of guy.  And it's a terrific ax.  Bill Rickard wants me to play his titanium tone ring banjos and Mark Platin is so excited about his new line of exotic wood (pot/tone ring) banjos, he's also sending me one for feedback.  I'm flattered and humbled.  But I'm not a collector.  So at some point (after playing them a while, of course), perhaps I could put some of these fine instruments in a public collection somewhere so more could witness this form of artistry.  If the Smithsonian is interested, that would be a natural since they're behind the Series. 



That's all for now.  I need to get back to work. 



Thank you everyone for your encouragement.  I've gotten numerous email from you talking about your appreciation of the Series.  It's intensely exciting for me to witness these stories.  I'm delighted I have you all to come along and share the fun.  



Don't forget to let me know what you think about my "buy and watch now... get the goods later" purchase concept. 



Craig



PS - Oh.  And the pirate shirt was an old one (a Scully).  Unfortunately it appears in two shows that I filmed back to back (in one day).   The old-time shirts I really like are here:  riverjunction.com.  if you stop by, tell Jim that frailin' sent ya.  



 



Edited by - frailin on 11/04/2011 07:18:10

Shawn Hoover - Posted - 11/04/2011:  07:20:09



It worked great the first time. I'm in.


ramjo - Posted - 11/04/2011:  07:58:51



quote:


Originally posted by shoover




It worked great the first time. I'm in.






Me too.


orangikan - Posted - 11/04/2011:  11:40:47



I'd be more than happy to purchase volume 2 up front. Volume 1 was FANTASTIC ... as inspirational as it was educational. And plenty professional for my tastes.


Mike Buchman - Posted - 11/04/2011:  11:51:54



Happy to buy now and view as available.


budbennett - Posted - 11/04/2011:  12:21:19



sounds good craig.  same price as volume 1?  just asking.


cmox - Posted - 11/04/2011:  12:52:47


I'm in.

frailin - Posted - 11/04/2011:  13:38:45



Thanks Bud.



Price for Volume 2 will be the same as V1 - $30 plus $4 S&H.  



Craig



Edited by - frailin on 11/04/2011 13:45:08

frailin - Posted - 11/04/2011:  14:00:32



In looking back through the orders, the first 50 or so (that joined the list here online) asked to be included in Volume 2.  Of the additional 160+, over 60% did the same.  The rest probably just didn't think to ask/reserve.  So pre-selling would seem to be an ok thing to do.  



Also, I can use the $$ to fund the California Swing... and help repair faulty equipment.  Heaven forbid I end up with another 4-5 seconds of out-of-focus film... across 2 different Builders... that I didn't notice until I got home.  



 


manomusic - Posted - 11/04/2011:  17:54:14



Hi Craig



I'd also like to place an order for the next round,



Cheers



Neil


pddngtn - Posted - 11/04/2011:  18:45:48


Craig, You have another customer. I'll sign up for vol 1 & 2.

And please pass my thanks on to your wife for cutting you lose to do this. She must be an angel.

Brian

ScottK - Posted - 11/04/2011:  21:56:33


Count me in for buying Vol 2 now.

Scott

neillconnor - Posted - 11/05/2011:  05:29:11


Count me in for volume 2 now!

Castania - Posted - 11/05/2011:  06:22:03



Craig



I'd be happy to get volume 2; put me down.



Ken



 


pernicketylad - Posted - 11/05/2011:  11:46:06



Put me down for a copy too Craig....thoroughly enjoyed the first instalment and am the proud owner of a Bowlin 1865!


BNJOMAKR - Posted - 11/05/2011:  16:35:33



I would like to get volume #2... put me on the list!


bricklifter1 - Posted - 11/05/2011:  18:14:44



when can i but vol2


bricklifter1 - Posted - 11/05/2011:  20:15:37



not but vol2-- buy vm 2


Ron Ortegel - Posted - 11/06/2011:  13:08:22



You can add me to the list.



Great work.



Looking forward to it.


frailin - Posted - 11/07/2011:  13:27:07



When I was shooting Jason Romero's Show up in Horsefly BC, I ended up with a little extra local color. Not sure where I can use it, though.



 



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Edited by - frailin on 11/07/2011 13:31:08

bricklifter1 - Posted - 11/07/2011:  14:59:34



"Got ate up by a bear"......perfect!



I spent time in White Horse in the early 90's while working as a fire fighter in the US Forest Service.  5 yrs later--  Spent my honeymoon in Quebec, Toronto and Guelph--loved it. 



GREAT PEOPLE:  laid back,honest and smart.  We could learn allot from them.



Chris



Edited by - bricklifter1 on 11/07/2011 15:02:05

maryzcox - Posted - 11/08/2011:  17:19:17



Hello Craig,



I'll buy a copy of volume 2--how do I order and send the money? Paypal? Let me know. cool



When I was at Lo Gordon's home a couple weeks ago--he broke out his copy of Volume 1 and we watched it together and greatly enjoyed it.



I think you're doing a really good job on it and I'm looking forward to the John Bowlin interview.



Best wishes,



Mary Z. Cox



 


cframe - Posted - 11/08/2011:  17:38:08



I'm a little late to this party, but I just ordered Vol. 1 and can hardly wait until it arrives. The Bill Rickard episode I saw (on youtube?) was great.



 



Colin


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