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scruss - Posted - 06/04/2009: 14:34:33
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Blanchard
- where do I get a case?
- what strings do I buy?
- how do you tune the 5th string when you aren't using the capo?
- how did I ever get this idea past my wife?
jhandsfield - Posted - 06/04/2009: 16:33:31
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Blanchard
As I sit here waiting for my new long-neck, I find myself wondering:
- where do I get a case?
- what strings do I buy?
- how do you tune the 5th string when you aren't using the capo?
- how did I ever get this idea past my wife?
I guess I'll just have to be patient while I wait to get my hands on this thing.
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
Gary Blanchard - Posted - 06/04/2009: 18:49:04
Thanks for all the feedback. I will probably go with the Goldtone case; I have a Banjos for Peace bumper sticker ready to cover the Goldtone logo. I've seen several string sets that say they are long enough for a long-neck and will try several different types. I have heard some say to tune the 5th string to E and others say to G# - guess I'll just fool around with both and go with what sounds right to me.
As for the wife, that was pretty much a laugh line. Since I have been happily playing the Goodtime for years she doesn't mind my getting this one, particularly since it will help me play Gumtree Canoe in "our" key without having the banjo sound too tinny. I have a wonderful wife. ![]()
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
longneck - Posted - 06/05/2009: 06:57:54
TonyS, Glad to hear about the longneck in your future. I have a Vega Folklore '63 I got new. (I would love to have had a PS model but money was the issue). Anyway, I would be very careful about putting a strap on a bracket. I'm not saying don't do it, just be careful. I've gone thru several because they've bent from the weight. If you're thinking of drilling into the neck, just remember that there's a truss rod in there somewhere. Happy Picking.
Regards, Longneck
longneck - Posted - 06/05/2009: 06:58:05
TonyS, Glad to hear about the longneck in your future. I have a Vega Folklore '63 I got new. (I would love to have had a PS model but money was the issue). Anyway, I would be very careful about putting a strap on a bracket. I'm not saying don't do it, just be careful. I've gone thru several because they've bent from the weight. If you're thinking of drilling into the neck, just remember that there's a truss rod in there somewhere. Happy Picking.
Regards, Longneck
Rustyinfla - Posted - 06/05/2009: 13:12:46
There should be a warning placed at the beginning of these long neck topics. First here I was minding my own business reading through the forum when I start reading about long necks. then before I know it I can't remember the words to "Alice's Restaurant" so I Google that and before I know it I'm reading about officer Obie and... well now I see just how dangerous those things can be.
If you''re gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough
stringbeaner - Posted - 06/05/2009: 14:11:55
Far as I know Pete's first book had a yellow cover. I bought a well-used one in 1956 with a yellow cover on it. You could order an LP from Folkways records to go along with it.
Stringbeaner
stringbeaner - Posted - 06/05/2009: 14:36:45
My avatar photo with the cats is a home-whittled longneck on my 1925 (+/-) Stromberg.
Stringbeaner
freddfish - Posted - 06/08/2009: 19:10:53
quote:
Originally posted by scruss
TKL make a hard case, which when badged by Gold Tone, is pretty cheap. All you need is a bumper sticker to cover the GT logo.
TonyS - Posted - 06/09/2009: 16:58:02
Hey longneck- nice avatar! Think I'll open a cold one myself.
Thanks for the strap on bracket hint - I always thought so....
Any strap issues / answers out there?
(no I shall not drill an eye bolt like Pete!)
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john bange - Posted - 06/09/2009: 17:53:39
Tony, be sure to put some photos of it on here when you get it. I envy you. john bange
Gary Blanchard - Posted - 06/10/2009: 04:58:43
The problem with that TKL Case at First Quality Music is the little print that says...out of stock. I understand its been that way for a while.
I'm going with the Gold Tone case and I have a Banjos for Peace bumper sticker ready to cover the logo. ![]()
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
Edited by - Gary Blanchard on 06/10/2009 06:34:13
pastorharry - Posted - 06/13/2009: 02:01:28
Gary-you could simply get a little black paint and modifly GOLD TONE to read #OLD #ONE ![]()
Isaiah 38:20
Hunter Robertson - Posted - 06/13/2009: 03:56:29
Here's a picture of the 1954 edition of Seeger's book, which I got from my grandfather's attic (must have been my mother's or my aunt's, there was a great old Kay as well). He says in the forward that 3000 of that second edition were printed and that there were two printings of the first, 100 in 1948 and 500 in 1951, both mimeographed.
Hunter
Old Time Music for Body & Soul - hunterrobertson.com
Edited by - Hunter Robertson on 06/13/2009 04:02:38
TonyS - Posted - 06/13/2009: 09:57:57
Got my Banjos for Peace (.com) sticker ready to go
/sorry Gold Tone/
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Gary Blanchard - Posted - 06/13/2009: 20:45:36
Well, I ended up with the gig bag as the hard case was not available. The Bajos for Peace sticker was perfect to cover the Gold Tone logo and my BH Players Union sticker is on the top of the neck. By next Saturday, the case will have a banjo to fill it! ![]()
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
goldtopia - Posted - 06/13/2009: 21:56:49
Dont poke holes in the ceiling
Bill.O
bluegrassminstrels.co.uk
gottasmilealot - Posted - 06/14/2009: 02:32:27
Mine use to be an annoyance to transport. In a hard case, it was too long to fit cross-wise in the car, which meant I had to flip half the back seat down to stick the long neck case through it.
Be careful of ceiling fans, and build up your shoulder muscle.
Keith
Seansvoice - Posted - 06/15/2009: 21:49:02
quote:
Originally posted by stringbeaner
Far as I know Pete's first book had a yellow cover. I bought a well-used one in 1956 with a yellow cover on it. You could order an LP from Folkways records to go along with it.
Stringbeaner
Dave Douglass - Posted - 06/16/2009: 09:55:05
It was asked if other posters are longneck players so I'll throw in here. I bought my first banjo, a cheap model Gibson longneck new back in 1963 for $175. It was my main player for decades. It's no longer my main player but I still like to haul it out and render some tunes on it fairly regularly and I never neglect to play it "open" for that deep, throaty sound that I still like a lot. I use medium gauge GHS strings with a bronze wound 4th, Bill Russell capo, and HO railroad spikes for the 5th string capoing (its 2nd and 5th fret) and I've never had the urge to attach its strap anyplace but off of the brackets in the usual places. Maybe I've been lucky but the neck is still straight and true.
Dave Douglass
Seansvoice - Posted - 06/16/2009: 15:05:50
quote:
Originally posted by scruss
Not all strings are long enough for a long neck. OME ones are, as are Newtone.
And to follow on from GW in Ohio's comment, one of them needs to play a tenor guitar. That's important.
--
scruss.com/blog/ - Hug a wind turbine today!
mikehalloran - Posted - 06/16/2009: 17:06:41
I am down to my last set of Vega strings -- NOS pre-Martin that I bought years ago. I will likely order up some bulk GHS in the gauges I like. The wound strings are 42"; the plain are 45" - I hope that 42" is long enough for a middle E on my ODE. I prefer stainless steel to bronze always.
Mike Halloran
stanger - Posted - 06/18/2009: 04:58:24
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
stanger - Posted - 06/18/2009: 04:58:38
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
stanger - Posted - 06/18/2009: 04:58:46
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
mikehalloran - Posted - 06/18/2009: 06:25:58
quote:
Originally posted by stanger
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
JMarhallP - Posted - 06/18/2009: 12:10:33
About 20 years ago when I was getting back into playing the banjo, and was looking to purchase a banjo, I knew I wanted a long neck. I'd been a fan of Pete Seeger for years. I tried to find a Vega long neck, but with no success. So, via the Music Emporium in Cambridge, MA, my wife and I ordered a long neck banjo from a young banjo maker named Bart Reiter. Bart created a terrific "replica" of the Vega style. It has the simple neck inlays with star on the headstock and another at the "5th" (actually 8th fret). Because I've been playing old time, for the most part, over the years, I've kept the capo on the third fret. But in recent years I've been playing with local musicians who play folk, pop, and bluegrass. This has caused me to expand my use of the extra three frets. When someone decides to play "Folsom Prison Blues" in the key of E, I'm ready for 'em. It really does keep you in the game, so to speak, in a mixed group. I'm sure you're going enjoy the possibilities it gives you.
JParr
TonyS - Posted - 06/20/2009: 07:52:22
Exactly JMP - similar story!
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Basic Strum - Posted - 06/25/2009: 09:37:56
quote:
Originally posted by stanger
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
Edited by - Basic Strum on 06/25/2009 10:24:44
stanger - Posted - 06/25/2009: 13:49:40
quote:
Originally posted by mikehalloranquote:
Originally posted by stanger
Hi, Mike...
I found that the GHS strings were too short for my Ode longnecks. But John Pearse strings makes 2 longneck sets- light and medium gauges- that are long enough. They're good sounding strings, too.
regards,
Stanger
The pen is mightier than the pigs.
Does yours have the large headstock or the compact one like my MUSE?
Mike Halloran
TonyS - Posted - 07/04/2009: 13:58:07
It's here- the OT800 LN by Gold Tone!
Ceiling fan jokes are not out of line - almost hit one in the basement...
I'll give the entire experience Angie's Banjo / Gold tone a 97%
Anyone want to hear the picky stuff I'll tell you, but I'm havin too much fun playing right now......
ps - Happy 4th everyone
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Gary Blanchard - Posted - 07/04/2009: 19:07:33
quote:
Originally posted by TonyS
It's here- the OT800 LN by Gold Tone!
Ceiling fan jokes are not out of line - almost hit one in the basement...
I'll give the entire experience Angie's Banjo / Gold tone a 97%
Anyone want to hear the picky stuff I'll tell you, but I'm havin too much fun playing right now......
sticky - Posted - 07/07/2009: 07:09:26
Hi,
I am new to the site here, and also a longnecker, as most of you in this thread seem to be. Use a Framus myself, which is really fine for me, just difficult getting a hard case, guess I will have to make one myself someday. Strings are also John Pearce, but will be changing to pyramid by the next set change, which is due sometime this summer. Not that I am unhappy with the Pearce strings, just wanted to try something else, as I have been using them for years (about the onlyones to have the length I suppose).
Interesting site here, and only stumbled across it in the search for tabs for Katy Cruel.....
Gary Blanchard - Posted - 07/07/2009: 07:46:18
Welcome to the site, Sticky. I just got my long-neck and haven't had to change strings, but am looking at the Pearce strings. So, other than wanting to try something different, you've been happy with the Pearce strings?
I had trouble finding a hard case and wound up getting the Goldtone gig bag and covering the logo with a bumper sticker. I do hope to get the hard case someday, though.
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
Basic Strum - Posted - 07/07/2009: 09:58:40
quote:
Originally posted by sticky
Hi,
I am new to the site here, and also a longnecker, as most of you in this thread seem to be. Use a Framus myself, which is really fine for me, just difficult getting a hard case, guess I will have to make one myself someday. Strings are also John Pearce, but will be changing to pyramid by the next set change, which is due sometime this summer. Not that I am unhappy with the Pearce strings, just wanted to try something else, as I have been using them for years (about the onlyones to have the length I suppose).
Interesting site here, and only stumbled across it in the search for tabs for Katy Cruel.....
Gary Blanchard - Posted - 07/07/2009: 11:22:08
They must have sold out fast. I just checked and it said "backordered." This is what I ran into when I was looking earlier. ![]()
Gary Blanchard
gbandf.com
Big Doug Nez - Posted - 07/11/2009: 08:30:43
It will make a good traveling banjo if you have a long bed pick-up truck.
Coonskin - Posted - 07/11/2009: 11:14:35
Get good walking shoes for when you need to tune it.
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/BANJOKEL
Don''t fear yer ear!!!
TonyS - Posted - 07/11/2009: 15:48:15
Great to hear yours arrived too Gary...
Sticky - did someone mention Gold Tone hard cases?
Thanks everyone for the strings hints.
Now - straps - that fit in countoured cases?
I got the rubber Super Strap from Ross Banjoteacher.com - ver y nice, but not traditional...
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Basic Strum - Posted - 07/18/2009: 08:20:53
quote:
Originally posted by TonyS
Great to hear yours arrived too Gary...
Sticky - did someone mention Gold Tone hard cases?
Thanks everyone for the strings hints.
Now - straps - that fit in countoured cases?
I got the rubber Super Strap from Ross Banjoteacher.com - ver y nice, but not traditional...
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" This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender " - Pete''s banjo
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TonyS - Posted - 07/19/2009: 11:03:40
Thanks Basic Strum!!
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" This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender " - Pete''s banjo
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ZEPP - Posted - 07/19/2009: 11:19:17
FWIW, I posted a very short demo video of a Gold Tone OT-800LN the other day. Because of the "Seeger" neck, I used "Seeger-style up-picking," of course. ![]()
The thread is banjohangout.org/forum/topic.a...ID=153130
The video can be downloaded from zeppmusic.com/Demo_videos/Wild...ot800.wmv
or seen on YouTube at youtube.com/watch?v=6QrH1k5rzp4
Cheers,
ZEPP
TonyS - Posted - 07/21/2009: 18:38:05
Thanks Zepp!
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Seansvoice - Posted - 07/29/2009: 16:56:30
quote:
Originally posted by chip arnold
Mimeograph! That's the word I was looking for. I remember when I was little there was a hand cranked machine which used blue ink. I loved the smell of that ink. That was a mimeograph, right? Somebody, somewhere has a copy of that early book. I'd love to see one and I agree, it should be in the Smithsonian.
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Take what is given
Give what is taken
Chip Arnold
Craig - Posted - 07/30/2009: 06:52:41
Hey Zepp! I love your playing but your up picking isn't quite Seeger style. Seeger doesn't have his pinkie stuck to the head. It looks like some bluegrass influence has crept in!!!
This is an interesting thread. I started with up-picking using the yellow Seeger book. I actually bought it in London in 1959, just thinking I might want to learn to play some day. In 1960 I went to a Seeger concert at Penn State and was hooked! I went to the reception for him afterwards and had my book autographed. Also, I have a 1924 Vega Tubaphone with a long neck I made for it (at Pete's suggestion),
Craig
thepleasantfamily.com
"Not a real family, not really that pleasant"
Basic Strum - Posted - 07/30/2009: 10:48:54
Craig:
Another interesting thread would be one asking people to identify professional banjo players (or themselves) they know of who also began learning banjo from Pete's book. Off the top of my head I can think of Guard, Stewart and Hassilev, but it seems as though I've read the phrase "...so I sat down with a copy of the Seeger book and ..." dozens of times.
Bill
"If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself." Mickey Mantle
Craig - Posted - 07/30/2009: 21:42:21
During that concert he mentioned that Dave Guard had written to him to get a copy of his book. I happened to have my copy in the trunk of my car and that's how it came to be autographed.
Craig
thepleasantfamily.com
"Not a real family, not really that pleasant"
TonyS - Posted - 08/15/2009: 06:03:57
The LN case pointing down due to the handle was funny! Where do you get a replacement (the Gold tone one also moves around). No biggie -
I'm ordering the Pearce strings right now...
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" This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender " - Pete''s banjo
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Basic Strum - Posted - 08/15/2009: 06:23:58
quote:
Originally posted by TonyS
The LN case pointing down due to the handle was funny! Where do you get a replacement (the Gold tone one also moves around). No biggie -
I'm ordering the Pearce strings right now...
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" This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender " - Pete''s banjo
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use GOODSEARCH as your search engine to support your favorite charity!
BrittDLD1 - Posted - 08/15/2009: 08:53:35
I'm pretty sure that Elderly has case hardware,
elderly.com/accessories/cats/MISC.html
Best-
Ed Britt
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