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 | Mike Rowe says:
12/23/2013 10:24:55 AM
You might check the tightness of the coordinator rods.
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 | brakeslide says:
12/23/2013 10:43:44 AM
Thanks Mike. Probably gonna take another look at um. I have checked them a couple of times already and think I have them set correctly.
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| Mike Rowe says:
12/23/2013 11:20:33 AM
You know, after I posted that, I thought that was probably included on the Stelling website. No offense intended, it was just the first thing I thought of.
Mike
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 | tony wall says:
12/23/2013 11:21:24 AM
Hi brakside i had that very problem wit mi redfox i put heavier gauge strings on my fox a banjo builder friend of mine told me just because a pack of strings say 9 gauge dosent mean its a 9 for the first string he said it cud b a 8.5 which makes it to llight and that will cause the buzzin so try using say a 10 instead on the first and say a 12 on the second an so forth thats wat i done and it transformed my red fox i tried everthing then put a heavier string. problem solved try it for urself
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| tony wall says:
12/23/2013 11:29:02 AM
Forgot to say i also have a 94 bill kieth classic that a set of 9gauge strings on it way to light it was buzzin and i was havin to tune up alot more so i put a set of heavier strings on it now its a tone monster cud not belive the difference it made to the bill kieth
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| brakeslide says:
12/23/2013 11:43:28 AM
Hey Mike no offense taken. I appreciate you responding. I'm kinda at my wits end. I have always been pretty mechanical that's what drew me to the banjo. But this is got me stumped. Even my banjo teach was scratching his head. Tony thanks man. I have been using Stelling medium heavies so I will look into that. That seems like way to easy a fix. Ill post on here if that works.
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| brakeslide says:
12/23/2013 12:00:49 PM
Hey Tony, I checked my strings and they are Stelling brand medium heavies
.010-.012- .015- .024- .010
Dang..
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 | From Greylock to Bean Blossom says:
12/23/2013 12:17:06 PM
Too bad you don't live closer to Virginia.
ken
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 | gottasmilealot says:
12/23/2013 12:18:09 PM
If you use Stelling's guidelines, be sure you use their string gauge and bridge, or at least a quality bridge of the same height. Sometimes people lower the bridge to get a lower action which changes the dynamics, as will going too light a gauge strings. I think you are correct in that you just have to zero in on the set-up, as the older pre-TP rims sound really good. Be sure your pot-to-neck joint is tight, and only tighten the coordinator rods as tight as needed to fine tune the action for a stock height bridge. Don't be afraid to call Stelling, they're great folks.
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| brakeslide says:
12/23/2013 1:27:21 PM
Thanks Keith, When I get home tonight I think I will start again and double check everything. I will also check the pot-to-neck joint. I am also going to double check the coordinator rods again as Mike suggested. The tail piece is set tip down just a hair from flat. I am using a Stelling standard 5/8 bridge although that is not what was on it when I bought it and Stelling med heavies strings. Thanks again.
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 | ban-joe says:
12/23/2013 4:09:14 PM
Did you swap out an 11/16" (Stelling norm) bridge for a 5/8"? Not sure that would change much other than the action, but it's one variable.
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 | banjoman56 says:
12/23/2013 4:36:19 PM
Stelling banjos come with 11/16 bridges, so that may have been what caused the buzz in the first place, if it started about the time you changed it.
My Red Fox got a little sick on me for a while and I couldn't get the tone or volume that I wanted on it, so I replaced the head and set her to 91 on the DD, and boy did it ever come alive. I think it must have had a tiny crack or place that was starting to pull loose around the bead on the head. I would put the 11/16 bridge back and if that don't fix it, it could need a head
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| brakeslide says:
12/24/2013 3:15:28 PM
Joe, Carl: I did change the 11/16 bridge out for a 5/8 Steeling bridge because I thought it was the standard. that could have been about the time this started. The old bridge was a 11/16 Stelling and real thin. It was pretty bowed and that is what prompted me to change it. Carl what head did you put on yours. Thanks all for the advice. I spent a couple of hours last night going thru the set up again to make sure it was right and I believe it is. It still does not sound right. I think I will call Stelling after Christmas and order another bridge and maybe a new head. Merry Christmas all
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Ian Stuart says:
12/25/2013 1:07:51 PM
Jay I had/still have the same thing going on with my bellflower I changed to a 5/8 bridge my low D string buzes from 9th fret through to 17th I went from the 24g to a 22g which made a little bit of difference the reason I changed bridges was I was haveing trouble getting used to the hight of the 11/16 my other banjo has a low action which iam used to .the other thing I noticed was when I capo the second fret the volume of the banjo dropped is now were near as loud and crisp .iam not to worried about my banjo I can fix it in an instant just put the 11/16 back on this next year I will experiment a bit with bridges maybe get another 11/16 and put on my other banjo and get used to the hight or get two in between 11/16 & 5/8 and try that . Most people I pick with cannot tell the difference it's just annoying for me and my ears knowing that it is not quite right. Cheers good luck.
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| brakeslide says:
12/30/2013 11:50:57 AM
So I put my old sagging 11/16 Stelling bridge back on. Checked the head, its at 91 on my DD. All the overtones went away and its back to sounding like my Stelling. Its loud and crisp now. I can't believe that the 5/8 bridge made it sound so bad. I feel pretty stupid. I didn't think that the little difference in bridge size would change it that much. Thanks everyone for the good advice and help.
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| banjoman56 says:
1/1/2014 10:03:00 PM
Bridges can make huge a difference in the tone of a banjo and 1/16 of an inch difference can cause a buzz. You asked in an earlier what head I put on my banjo, it was the Ludwig. I think they sound great on a Stelling!
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 | Ybanjo says:
1/2/2014 7:11:59 AM
From my experience, the biggest cause for weird overtones (for me) seems to come when the head is a little off balance. I use the DD and make sure it's exactly at 91. I've tried it a little tighter, but it always seems to start choking off the tone. Anything looser sounds too tubby. Just my 2 cents.
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| brakeslide says:
1/2/2014 8:41:08 AM
Thanks again all. Now off to order a new Stelling 11/16 bridge.
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