I have a 1070's RB 250 that has a Neat neck, Tony Pass old wood thin skirt rim and a Huber Vintage Flat Head tone ring (Which I guess,doesn't make it much of an RB250 anymore).
The instrument is missing the growl and tone up the neck that my Yates RS maple has.
Is it worth the investment for me to have a Huber engineered rim and HR30 tone ring installed.
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 | davepicks5 says:
8/30/2012 5:55:18 PM
In my experience Yates sound very dry and percussive with really quick decay. Some say prewar sounding, but that is not my observation. Ron Stewart likes that type of tone and the rings are geared toward what he hears and likes. The Huber HR30 and engineered rim are very open and musical, just enough sustain to be pleasant but just the right amount of decay. In my opinion, they will produce more of a tone found in style 75 banjos from the prewar era. As for the investment, since you have the Frank Neat neck and all the metal with a resonator, pretty good starting point. David
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 | Banjov1 says:
8/31/2012 4:33:19 PM
I would imagine that an engineered rim and hr 30 ring will make it sound better than it does now... but I've heard upgraded non Huber banjos with the same Truetone combination rim and ring that don't sound quite as good as the new off the shelf Huber Truetones. (Also heard pre-war Gibsons with Truetone components that just sound unbelievable, so it swings both ways I guess)
But mostly want to caution a bit like Dave is pointing out. The Yates sound is a little different. If you're really looking for that maple Yates up the neck sound, it might not be best to try to simulate it with Huber Truetone components and (what I'm guessing is) a mahogany banjo
I don't mean to say that the Yates sound is better than the Huber sound (or vice versa), but they are different and if you really are looking for a Yates sound I'm not sure it's a great idea to spend a lot trying to do it with Huber parts
just my own 2 cents
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 | double E says:
9/4/2012 10:30:52 AM
I agree with what Dave and Tony said. I have owned two Hubers, (Have a Truetone now.) And i got to baby sit a Yates RS for a while. And I had a V33 Yates ring in a couple of my banjos. Both sound good but there is a different sound,tone, there. The Yates has a little more edge to it and probably like they said a quicker decay. I love my Trutone, but like they said, if you like to Yates sound I wouldn't upgrade to the HR30. Just my opinion. EE
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 | tjbanjo says:
9/4/2012 11:59:55 AM
Thanks for the info. I reall do like the Yates sound especially the low D string sound. On my 250, the new string sound seems to last only about a week before it begins to have that dead sound, where on the Yates, it keeps that new string sound much longer. That is the main reason i'm thinking if switching to the True Tone.
I do have a friend with a Lexington (non True Tone) and although different sounding than my Yates, I like it better than my 250.
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| Banjov1 says:
9/4/2012 7:55:25 PM
If you like that Lexington... then you'll probably like the sound of an upgraded 250 with Truetone components... give Steve a call
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 | Pickin furry paws says:
9/16/2012 3:32:16 PM
Here's the thing: banjo playing is three things
1. Picker
2. banjo
3. Set-up
The picker obviously effects the most in anything...the difference is split between set-up and the banjo. My point? The Huber will never sound like the Yates! It does not have a no-hole ring, it does not have a red maple rim. The tone combination is radically different, so expect difference. Every banjo gives some good things...Hubers have a different tone than Yates banjos. I think the main thing is to not expect Yates tone from a completely different banjo.
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