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frailing scoop wanted

From cotton picker on 8/20/2014 12:55:01 PM

Hi I have a gold tone wl250+ lefty. They do not come with a frailing scoop. Is it possible to carry out this alteration oneself, and if so what skill level does it involve. Would I need special  tools to carry out this alteration. In other word how do I do it. Would the neck have to be reset? Or had I best leave it to someone who knows what they are doing.

Cheers

Helsby (Dave)

9 Comments

Ragtimejoe says:
8/20/2014 2:26:09 PM

Someone that knows what they're doing can do it in 3 or 4 minutes. If you don't know you can screw up your banjo in half that time. I'd take it to an old time banjo builder.

My 2 cents worth, and worth every penny.

cotton picker says:
8/21/2014 1:27:02 AM

Thanks Joe, Just cannot afford to take the chance of it ending up as firewood. So I'll put it in to the hand of a professional. Will the neck have to be lifted to bring the scooped section of the fingerboard up level with the tension ring? I like to know what will be involved when I have it done. also will this affect the action, plus will I then need the change the height of the bridge. I've got it all set up just fine, Don't want to loose it but would like the S scoop. Or should I leave it well alone and carry on as it is.
Sorry to go on, but it not just a banjo.
Cheers
Helsby (Dave)

writerrad says:
8/21/2014 5:21:38 PM

That is funny though I dont especially like Frailing Scoops, over the past 10 years I have had a wl250, I have run into lots of other players who have them with frailing scoups. I am sure they can be purchased with scoups. However I REALLY AGREE WITH EVERYONE ON THIS LIST THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A LUTHIER WHO IS EXPERIENCED WORKING WITH BANJOS DO THAT

writerrad says:
8/21/2014 5:30:27 PM

According to the Gold tone web site here goldtone.com/products/details/...48/WL-250, a frailing scoup is offered as standard equipment for this banjo and indeed the one in the picture has a frailing scoup. If yours is still new you can take it back, but it is wrong to say they do not come with a frailing scoup

cotton picker says:
8/22/2014 12:22:42 AM

Please check my Gold tone is an WL250+ it states in their adds. the WL250+ tree of life inlay does not come with a frailing scoop. sorry to be dogmatic about this. I shall get a luthier to carry out the modification

cotton picker says:
8/22/2014 12:22:42 AM

Please check my Gold tone is an WL250+ it states in their adds. the WL250+ tree of life inlay does not come with a frailing scoop. sorry to be dogmatic about this. I shall get a luthier to carry out the modification

tomestesjr says:
11/4/2014 10:01:42 AM

Adding a frailing scoop the neck of the WL 250+ will screw up the inlay.

There is a solution, however. Have a luthier replace the stock bridge with a 3/4 inch bridge and readjust the neck.

That will raise your string off of the head of the banjo considerably. That is not a complex procedure for that banjo.

writerrad says:
11/17/2014 6:34:42 PM

sorry didnt know about the tree of life. Frailing scooups are pretty overrated and certainly an innovation of revivalist banjo playing as opposed to traditional banjo playing or country. A great many frailers and old time banjoists do not understand that a little action makes a banjo sound the way it was designed and that good head tension will give nice action and sounds like that some think they get from frailing scoups. I have 4 full sized banjos with frets, and two have frailing scoups and two (my wl250) and a 19th century Fairbanks do not. I dont find much difference for frailing or even getting a chuck (something against I rarely hear among traditional banjoists) with or without a scoup. The difference is really in the action and head tension is key to good action for frailing/clawhamer etc.

writerrad says:
11/17/2014 6:35:36 PM

would be pretty silly to get that inlay messed up by a scoup, although banjos are made to be played not looked at. If you want a scoup buy another banjo with a scoup.


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