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Paul Roberts - Posted - 06/01/2013: 05:30:03
"1 person likes this" but lots of people hit it. People aren't hitting the like button so not only is the listing meaningless, it' s demeaning. I'd suggest dumping it.
Jason Wilkerson - Posted - 06/01/2013: 06:09:49
I thought about hitting 'like' for your post, but decided against it
Paul Roberts - Posted - 06/01/2013: 06:52:40
As to "Why are so many obsessed in the drive for approval?" you'd need to ask all your musical heroes that question, but it's off-topic. The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
Jason Wilkerson - Posted - 06/01/2013: 06:57:42
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
If you are referring to the 'like' button on the threads, actually it was addressed when Eric instituted it (at the same time that he did away with the stars under peoples' names, corresponding to the number of posts they've made). A few people expressed their dislike (no pun intended) for the changes, and as I recall, Eric said that they were basically here to stay. If you're referring to the 'like' button on the music player, I don't know if that's ever been addressed or not.
schlange - Posted - 06/01/2013: 07:51:28
Someone watching a video or listening to an MP3 is not the same as someone liking it, obviously. They have to watch/listen then decide if it's worth liking. (A person could put together a video with a title that entices people to play it, but it may be terrible and nobody will like it.)
Plenty of people use the "Like" buttons all the time, so I think they're doing a great job and aren't meaningless at all.
Westvon - Posted - 06/01/2013: 08:11:20
In lew of the fact that a significant amount of social media is meaningless and superfluous, calling out the meaninglessness of the "Like" tab is, IMO, arriving somewhat late to a party. A huge number of things in social media (again, IMO) were long ago meaningless and absurd. The very fact that people peer into other's lives is hideously voyeuristic and intrusive, yet it too is an example of people wanting other's approval. We make a statement, and our ego is fed when people write back and agree with it. The like button is merely the quick fix approval indicator, yet it serves the same function as the approving response others write to our posts.
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
As to "Why are so many obsessed in the drive for approval?" you'd need to ask all your musical heroes that question, but it's off-topic. The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
gradelyduck - Posted - 06/01/2013: 08:19:11
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I
pressed the "Like" button on your post for the first time.I like the way it can be "unliked" if required
quote:
Originally posted by Westvon
In lew of the fact that a significant amount of social media is meaningless and superfluous, calling out the meaninglessness of the "Like" tab is, IMO, arriving somewhat late to a party. A huge number of things in social media (again, IMO) were long ago meaningless and absurd. The very fact that people peer into other's lives is hideously voyeuristic and intrusive, yet it too is an example of people wanting other's approval. We make a statement, and our ego is fed when people write back and agree with it. The like button is merely the quick fix approval indicator, yet it serves the same function as the approving response others write to our posts.
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
As to "Why are so many obsessed in the drive for approval?" you'd need to ask all your musical heroes that question, but it's off-topic. The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
Westvon - Posted - 06/01/2013: 08:34:15
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't unlike me, please please like me! My sense of self-worth depends upon it!
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I
pressed the "Like" button on your post for the first time.I like the way it can be "unliked" if required
quote:
Originally posted by Westvon
In lew of the fact that a significant amount of social media is meaningless and superfluous, calling out the meaninglessness of the "Like" tab is, IMO, arriving somewhat late to a party. A huge number of things in social media (again, IMO) were long ago meaningless and absurd. The very fact that people peer into other's lives is hideously voyeuristic and intrusive, yet it too is an example of people wanting other's approval. We make a statement, and our ego is fed when people write back and agree with it. The like button is merely the quick fix approval indicator, yet it serves the same function as the approving response others write to our posts.
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
As to "Why are so many obsessed in the drive for approval?" you'd need to ask all your musical heroes that question, but it's off-topic. The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
rgoad - Posted - 06/01/2013: 09:31:21
I like the 'Like' button. I had to figure it out: I liked something then returned to watch it again and was horrified to discover"Unlike' with my name next to it.
I use it to like many things about the post, not only the overall quality of the playing, but the effort and guts it takes, the instrument itself; many things. I deeply appreciate people putting art where I can engage it. I try to comment positively based on my education but sometimes I don't enough about what the person is doing other than to like. There are other times I miss clicking 'like' or maybe hit it twice and negate myself. However, sometimes all I can do is 'Like'.
Art should be done for its own sake, I think, and the approval of others is secondary. OTOH, I also think that if I really don't like something, unless it is truly dangerous, I should simply refrain from giving my opinion until I can learn to deal with my own limitations about that post.
mbuk06 - Posted - 06/01/2013: 10:11:50
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
As to "Why are so many obsessed in the drive for approval?" you'd need to ask all your musical heroes that question, but it's off-topic. The "like" function is clearly superfluous and meaningless so why have it? So far, no one has addressed the topic.
Since when has being able to express a liking for a tune or someone's playing become 'superfluous and meaningless? I enjoy that folks post their music in the media archive and spend most of my time on the Hangout in there listening and watching. What a fantastic atraction and resource! In my opinion the music archive has everything to do with sharing and enjoyment and little or nothing to do with a 'drive for approval'. The logical extension of your comment is that we should therefore all stick to playing our banjos alone in a sound-proof room. Well I for one hope that no banjo player heeds that advice ![]()
And anyways...what is so bad about some mild approval?
Edited by - mbuk06 on 06/01/2013 10:16:38
Fathand - Posted - 06/01/2013: 10:57:13
If I am looking for a video of a certain song and I see that one version has 8 likes and the other version has 2 likes , I will listen to the one with 8 as it more than likely better represents the song. If I listen to a tune and am somewhat impressed I will hit the like button, if not I don't. On the other hand if I am not interested in the tune posted, I usually don't even listen to it so obviously do not post a like.
People who may get upset if their posting does not receive a lot of likes should reconsider posting.
Sven57 - Posted - 06/01/2013: 11:13:01
Were you aware "likes" are also considered a commodity?
Multiple places to buy them in mass. For example:
swagsocials.com/
retread - Posted - 06/01/2013: 11:43:34
quote:
Originally posted by Sven57
Were you aware "likes" are also considered a commodity?
Multiple places to buy them in mass. For example:
swagsocials.com/
Sven57, I'm not sure whether to laugh, or move somewhere in the deep woods, way, way off the grid, and talk only to my cats.
specs - Posted - 06/01/2013: 12:15:07
quote:
Originally posted by schlange
Plenty of people use the "Like" buttons all the time, so I think they're doing a great job and aren't meaningless at all.
It would be nice if one could get a list of all the stuff they have "liked". I'd use it even more if I could do that.
kipperr - Posted - 06/01/2013: 12:22:02
quote:
Originally posted by retread
Sven57, I'm not sure whether to laugh, or move somewhere in the deep woods, way, way off the grid, and talk only to my cats.
Leave the cats, take the cannoli.
banjoy - Posted - 06/01/2013: 12:27:20
Not all "Likes" on BHO are created equally. There is some inconsistency in how the button is presented.
For example, a lot of folks never even look at the "Media Archive" link to the left. I know I didn't look there for the first 5 years or so I was at BHO. But there, you can see videos come through as they're posted, and if you click there, you will find a "Like" button for that video. Once the video is off that list, it's practically gone to oblivion, lots of luck finding it again if you can't remember who posted it.
Then, there are folks who only visit the SoundOff area. If you post a video there, using BHO's posting feature for videos, there is no Like button for the video, anywhere to be found. The only thing you can Like there is the post itself, not the video. Few folks are astute enough to realize, or energetic enough to jump through all the hoops needed to actually like the video itself, instead of just the post about it. So for videos posted to SoundOff, in order to Like the video itself, you have to click on the user's profile, then go to their video page, then click the Like button there. It's a very inconsistent feature and I am sure leads to a lot of videos not being Liked as much, because the post about it garners the Likes instead of the video. Once the thread is buried, so are the Likes.
I don't put a lot of emphasis on the Like button anyway. Sometimes I hit it, sometimes I don't and I'm not offended when someone else does not hit the button. Sometimes a comment is better.
Anyway, I just wanted to point out how inconsistent the Like button is presented on this website...
Edited by - banjoy on 06/01/2013 12:30:55
rgoad - Posted - 06/01/2013: 13:01:09
Fathand makes a good point. That was where I first bothered about the like: searching for exemplar versions of tunes I wanted to hear.
Banjoy also makes a point about learning to use it as does specs. I would like more utility and able to search using likes. I always go to the archive first and look for new stuff. BHO is my listening list at work.
And something I think should not go unsaid is that I am not evaluating the person, I usually 'like' most people anyway.
Woodturner - Posted - 06/01/2013: 13:38:49
I don't dislike the idea of liking things...but then again, I like that sort of thing.
Edited by - Woodturner on 06/01/2013 13:42:43
rgoad - Posted - 06/01/2013: 14:19:16
My grandmother was from Paris. I couldn't understand a thing she said, either. ;-)
Edited by - rgoad on 06/01/2013 14:20:16
Paul Roberts - Posted - 06/01/2013: 14:27:25
I'll press the like button for the Improvements and Suggestions forum. Clearly my suggestion to trash the button it is not going to be taken, but I appreciate having a place to express my opinion.
Edited by - Paul Roberts on 06/01/2013 14:28:46
Laurence Diehl - Posted - 06/01/2013: 14:59:41
I would have to say that it is a level playing field insofar as the utility of the like button is applied equally.Of course, if you have 500 friends you might have a leg up compared to those that have 2.
rgoad - Posted - 06/01/2013: 15:16:43
Dumb question: is it a sort of contest? I thought it was pretty much post by post.
Jason Wilkerson - Posted - 06/01/2013: 15:30:17
quote:
Originally posted by rgoad
Dumb question: is it a sort of contest? I thought it was pretty much post by post.
I do remember a thread some time back asking which mp3 post had received the most likes. But hey, that's legitimate---the most likes means that the most people were so impressed by the recording to press like. Nothing wrong with contests.
mbuk06 - Posted - 06/01/2013: 15:54:59
Posting in the music archive has no competitive element...at least I don't see it that way. But I believe there is now a specific sound-file posting competition for folks who want to participate, compete and be ranked. That's not for me as I see music as something to be enjoyed together and not competitively. But then that's the great thing about the Hangout...it caters for our different preferences.
Laurence Diehl - Posted - 06/01/2013: 18:54:36
quote:
Originally posted by rgoad
Dumb question: is it a sort of contest? I thought it was pretty much post by post.
No, I don't think anyone is competing with anyone else.I certainly try and comment and/or "like" many of the offerings on soundoff. Sometimes I just don't have time to listen to all the great posts. That would be a fulltime job.
Banjophobic - Posted - 06/02/2013: 09:01:39
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
"1 person likes this" but lots of people hit it. People aren't hitting the like button so not only is the listing meaningless, it' s demeaning. I'd suggest dumping it.
Aww, its just a simple tool to give a little positive content. It really doesnt mean anything in the real world anyway, so its just a virtual pat on the back. The only people who will take offense to not getting enough 'likes' are the same ones who place self worth on how many views a post gets or how many folks agree with everything they post.
In those cases its not the website or its buttons that are the problem. Its up to the poster to put value on how many or few likes they receive. Let's hope they don't put too much stock in either scenario.
rgoad - Posted - 06/02/2013: 11:06:23
Now, John, everything on the web is real. Bitcoin is real. I put my 401K in it.
Westvon - Posted - 06/02/2013: 17:08:05
John, I really "LIKE" your comment buddy!
quote:
Originally posted by Banjophobic
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Roberts
"1 person likes this" but lots of people hit it. People aren't hitting the like button so not only is the listing meaningless, it' s demeaning. I'd suggest dumping it.
Aww, its just a simple tool to give a little positive content. It really doesnt mean anything in the real world anyway, so its just a virtual pat on the back. The only people who will take offense to not getting enough 'likes' are the same ones who place self worth on how many views a post gets or how many folks agree with everything they post.
In those cases its not the website or its buttons that are the problem. Its up to the poster to put value on how many or few likes they receive. Let's hope they don't put too much stock in either scenario.
MrManners - Posted - 06/02/2013: 18:27:52
i have nothing against the likes but most of the time they are a measure of how you fit in socially rather than your music ability.Hey this is a social network and i ain't very good at it,glad somebody is.it has been proven around here many times,however some of the great players do rack up likes with their ability only to bomb the next time if they get to putting them up too often.
Want likes you have to work hard at lets scratch each others backs,
if you are a pretty young lady that guarantees a few extra likes.
my advice is the likes don't measure a thing musically,while we are at it,what about these counts of several thousand that show up immediately after some of the post,surely no one believes that but hey it's a free world,and i am damn happy with the true fans i get around here,--my 2 cents
Edited by - MrManners on 06/02/2013 18:37:48
Banjophobic - Posted - 06/03/2013: 07:10:53
quote:
Originally posted by MrManners
i have nothing against the likes but most of the time they are a measure of how you fit in socially rather than your music ability.Hey this is a social network and i ain't very good at it,glad somebody is.it has been proven around here many times,however some of the great players do rack up likes with their ability only to bomb the next time if they get to putting them up too often.
Want likes you have to work hard at lets scratch each others backs,
if you are a pretty young lady that guarantees a few extra likes.
my advice is the likes don't measure a thing musically,while we are at it,what about these counts of several thousand that show up immediately after some of the post,surely no one believes that but hey it's a free world,and i am damn happy with the true fans i get around here,--my 2 cents
Exactly what I meant earlier. If the person posting the file thinks having lots of 'likes' means his/her music must be great, or that everyone loves it, is falling victim to their own PR,lol. Many times it might just be that they are trying to be more about supporting your efforts, than the music. We should never read too much into getting likes or by the same token, not getting any. You put your music up and hope somebody listens to it enjoys it. ![]()
schlange - Posted - 06/03/2013: 09:20:06
I guess I would compare a Hangout "like" to applauding at a live show. You don't necessarily know why people are applauding you (they may have loved the song, or maybe they just love you, or maybe they even feel sorry for you!) but who doesn't like applause?
There's no easy way to "applaud" a media post online, so the Like button is there instead.
When we were working on the Like buttons I actually was trying to call it something closer to "Applaud" or "Clap" but I couldn't figure out a cool way for it to work that would make intuitive sense. When in doubt, go with what people are used to--hence the Like button.
Westvon - Posted - 06/03/2013: 18:13:18
"applauding at a live show..."
Eric, this is a perfect response! I could not agree more, and dang how I LIKE what you wrote!
quote:
Originally posted by schlange
I guess I would compare a Hangout "like" to applauding at a live show. You don't necessarily know why people are applauding you (they may have loved the song, or maybe they just love you, or maybe they even feel sorry for you!) but who doesn't like applause?
There's no easy way to "applaud" a media post online, so the Like button is there instead.
When we were working on the Like buttons I actually was trying to call it something closer to "Applaud" or "Clap" but I couldn't figure out a cool way for it to work that would make intuitive sense. When in doubt, go with what people are used to--hence the Like button.
rgoad - Posted - 06/03/2013: 20:48:34
About what Eric said: I have two good friends who play bagpipes. One is actually a trained musician and the other is a medic on a care flight. They both took their bags to a local bar that has a very strong open mic night on Tuesdays. One put his heart into it and blew the rafters off. The other played softly and was barely audible over the ambient talk in the bar. Everybody applauded although nether were really good examples of bagpipe playing. We all just admired their guts and the ability to play something we all recognized.
Joe the banjo guy - Posted - 06/04/2013: 04:01:11
I could write "hey, i liked that" in the comments. or i could press the like button. The second one means the same thing and takes less time. How is that meaningless? It clearly expresses that I "liked" their performance in that video/mp3 clip.
Paul Roberts - Posted - 06/04/2013: 10:15:05
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My sense is that the 'like button' is simply ignored by many folks and that, if this is so, the numbers (like those visible in the Media forum) do not accurately reflect the percentage of viewers who actually liked a video. Typically these numbers make it appear that only a small percent of viewers liked a video. In certain instances that may be true; but in others it seems counter-intuitive that these numbers represent the degree of appreciation. My suggestion to remove the button was clearly a non-starter, but thanks for the willingness to discuss it.
In the thread Banjoy made some interesting observations which might be worthwhile addressing as its own topic.
quote:
Originally posted by banjoy
Not all "Likes" on BHO are created equally. There is some inconsistency in how the button is presented.
For example, a lot of folks never even look at the "Media Archive" link to the left. I know I didn't look there for the first 5 years or so I was at BHO. But there, you can see videos come through as they're posted, and if you click there, you will find a "Like" button for that video. Once the video is off that list, it's practically gone to oblivion, lots of luck finding it again if you can't remember who posted it.
Then, there are folks who only visit the SoundOff area. If you post a video there, using BHO's posting feature for videos, there is no Like button for the video, anywhere to be found. The only thing you can Like there is the post itself, not the video. Few folks are astute enough to realize, or energetic enough to jump through all the hoops needed to actually like the video itself, instead of just the post about it. So for videos posted to SoundOff, in order to Like the video itself, you have to click on the user's profile, then go to their video page, then click the Like button there. It's a very inconsistent feature and I am sure leads to a lot of videos not being Liked as much, because the post about it garners the Likes instead of the video. Once the thread is buried, so are the Likes.
I don't put a lot of emphasis on the Like button anyway. Sometimes I hit it, sometimes I don't and I'm not offended when someone else does not hit the button. Sometimes a comment is better.
Anyway, I just wanted to point out how inconsistent the Like button is presented on this website...
Banjophobic - Posted - 06/04/2013: 10:46:05
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Originally posted by Paul Roberts
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My sense is that the 'like button' is simply ignored by many folks and that, if this is so, the numbers (like those visible in the Media forum) do not accurately reflect the percentage of viewers who actually liked a video. Typically these numbers make it appear that only a small percent of viewers liked a video. In certain instances that may be true; but in others it seems counter-intuitive that these numbers represent the degree of appreciation. My suggestion to remove the button was clearly a non-starter, but thanks for the willingness to discuss it.
In the thread Banjoy made some interesting observations which might be worthwhile addressing as its own topic.
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lots of folks don't comment on videos or sound files either, but that's no indication of who 'liked' or 'disliked' it. You should also remove the ability to leave comments since we don't know how accurate they are overall, in determining how much folks 'liked' your post. If you post a video and it gets lots of play count, but no comments are left, does this tell you anything about how much they 'liked' it?
We could also remove play counts, as well as 'like' features and disable comments. That way, there's absolutely no way for folks who post music to have any feedback possibility. You would have no clue is anyone watched or listened, or liked/disliked anything. Sounds a rather drastic response to something so simple.
Andyincov - Posted - 06/04/2013: 10:57:08
As this is developing into a very long thread, please forgive me if I repeat something that has already been said.
I think the like button is a valuable tool (and isn't just a popularity contest). For example, I have had pretty much the same amount of friends on here for quite a long time yet some things I post get high levels of likes (for me, that is) and some very low. I can only assume, that the ones that more people like (through the like button), are more appealing, to more people. This gives me an idea of the progress I'm making and sometimes informs stuff I play with my band.
I LIKE LIKES!
Torben Pedersen - Posted - 06/04/2013: 11:43:37
I likes Like too. - For me it`s a good way to tell people, I like what you are playing, and the way you do it. - Sometimes when a song have many comments....ofcourse I could write I agree ...I agree.. and so on...but if what I mean, have been written several times, I often just click at like.
For me likes can be a "line", for how other people experience the song. - Just like Andy use it as a leading tread, when the song shall be played live.
But we must remember....we are human...our personally mood can do a difference, between like and hmmmm, or unlike...I can have songs, I in periode`s really love, and play over and over again. I love many styles of music...but not always...I can have periode`s where I love to hear my Jazz Cd...Folk CD`s...Bluegrass CD`s and so on...But also times, where I gives some of theme a rest....Sometimes I look in my old songbooks...find a song and said...Yes, now it`s time, to play the song again.
Thats the same, when I hear the uploaded songs. - But I still like like - And I learn a lot to listen to the uploaded songs.
Arts and music is, in that way the same. - Someone loves it - someone don`t loves it, and someone say hmmm
rgoad - Posted - 06/04/2013: 14:04:54
As a straight metric, the 'Like' button is just for fun, not really a good tool. However, If you compare the like to the number of plays, I think you might find that lots of plays of the tune, especially if they come back to it like lab rats for a food pellet for several days, then you might have something useful as likes build up.
FWIW, if I posted something and it didn't much return business or likes I would not wonder what happened to all the fair weather 'friends' and their lousy taste in music, but I might PM someone for an honest technical appraisal. Or better yet, play it in the presence of a breather and get its feedback. In my case I would be certain there is a mess I am making of something. But If I was a good player, it could be I would need the strength of my convictions to be confident that what I put out there was what I wanted to do and the way I wanted to do it and the likes were not that important.
Dingoman25 - Posted - 06/04/2013: 15:49:39
Paul,
I can only "like" a tune of yours once; but I can revisit and listen multiple times. Perhaps this can also seemingly skew the metrics?
regards,
Chris.
PS I automatically hit "like" if I laugh, agree, enjoy, think "that's a job well done for their skill level", etc
NCjones - Posted - 06/04/2013: 17:49:38
I personally use the "like" button quite a bit if I like the video/audio. Why the need to impose your will?
If you don't want to use the "like" button, then don't. There's no additional charge for being a hangout member and not using the "like" button.
I have never bought a rutabaga from WalMart, but I don't protest they remove them because I don't use them.
Paul Roberts - Posted - 06/05/2013: 10:16:21
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What does the like number, itself, signify, then? If you go to a concert, where there are 400 people in the audience, and 3 people clap - what does that tell you?
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Originally posted by schlange
I guess I would compare a Hangout "like" to applauding at a live show. You don't necessarily know why people are applauding you (they may have loved the song, or maybe they just love you, or maybe they even feel sorry for you!) but who doesn't like applause?
There's no easy way to "applaud" a media post online, so the Like button is there instead.
When we were working on the Like buttons I actually was trying to call it something closer to "Applaud" or "Clap" but I couldn't figure out a cool way for it to work that would make intuitive sense. When in doubt, go with what people are used to--hence the Like button.
Banjophobic - Posted - 06/06/2013: 08:15:35
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Originally posted by Paul Roberts
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What does the like number, itself, signify, then? If you go to a concert, where there are 400 people in the audience, and 3 people clap - what does that tell you?
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Paul
Ok, if you post a video and it gets 1500 play counts but no likes, what does that tell you? Does it mean 1500 folks didn't care for your video? Or maybe you see the 1500 count and think that because it got lots of views, that it was proof that everyone loved it ? It could have been a much smaller number of folks viewing the same video multiple times. Thats what I meant earlier-this isnt the same as the real world. We're in cyberville and its much harder to know exactly whats going on.
Don't read too much into 'likes' or play counts, negatively or positively.
Laurence Diehl - Posted - 06/06/2013: 08:24:36
I think the Likes could only be used as a metric in a relative sense. If you usually get on average say, 10 likes - then you suddenly get 20 likes on a tune, that might mean something. If on the other hand, you only get 1 like, that just means that the other 9 guys were too lazy to hit the button that day. ![]()
BanjoFlyboy - Posted - 06/06/2013: 10:12:11
I like the "Likes". If I know the picker I hit "like" before I listen, and I'm never disappointed. I know that more people like a song than the number of likes indicate. I like to see a person just starting get lots of "likes"! ;-)
banjo hollow - Posted - 06/10/2013: 18:40:02
If I like it, I press the like button. If I don't, I don't. 95% of the time I don't press it whether I like it or not. It's no biggy folks!
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