There are elected office holders in the Federal government who have routinely engaged in fraud and criminality, yet they still have the support of their party and a substantial portion of the American electorate. With that as an example of what is acceptable, why would we expect the folks running AI to behave in a responsible manner? The efficacy of the technology is too intoxicating, and the potential for obscene profitability is too great. The genie is out of the bottle.

The genie is out of the bottle because of all the new genies moving in.

The wisdom of Washington will bow out or kick the can after they set up "oversight". But what is new about that? Most of us think the Federal Aviation Administration is good and necessary. But then there are international oversight organizations that are perhaps not so good. Either way, oversight will occur nationally around the globe as well as some global force. Another certainty is that there will be those (individuals, corporations, countries, etc) that sneak around whatever guidelines are set. Brad

Machine intelligence is a more appropriate term.

Which implies no real emotions or empathy, and unfortunately no real regard for the human race.

Here's one of the best deep-dive analysis of the Hugging Face snafu I've come across, from a highly reliable source, who then cites his sources.

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Machine intelligence is a more appropriate term.

Which implies no real emotions or empathy, and unfortunately no real regard for the human race.

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On the contrary. AI models have been trained our behavior. So expect cruelty and chaos and the occasional glimmer of good intentions (which will be squashed immediately).

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Originally posted by Laurence Diehl

Tech companies have borrowed trillions of dollars to build out infrastructure for the AI boom. At some point they will be desperate to turn a profit. Don’t you think that taking some shortcuts on safety will be mighty tempting if it helps them achieve their goal?
That’s why we need government intervention. But even there, it’s hard to get money out of the equation.

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It is a world wide epidemic.  There is no plug to pull, how would the government regulate it? Government can't stop it. It is like the internet itself, it exists in this universe now and it ain't going away. You can't stop the world from developing technology.

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Machine intelligence is a more appropriate term.

Which implies no real emotions or empathy, and unfortunately no real regard for the human race.

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On the contrary. AI models have been trained our behavior. So expect cruelty and chaos and the occasional glimmer of good intentions (which will be squashed immediately).

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I kind of agree. It's when machines adopt human emotions that worries me the most. AI might cure cancer and solve climate change, but at what cost?

The mere fact that many high ranking people are pushing the alarm button has to be a good sign. We have good reason to fear China but if they want a stable nation they can't be fooling with these modern day atomic contraptions. At this moment we are trying to make sense of the clouds of dust which are too early to analyze. Most of the civilized world will be pushing for explanations and safeguards. Notice I didn't say 'everyone'. This is now a political decision because world leaders are now drawing a line in the sand. I grew up in the postwar concerns of just one banana republic pushing the button. Touch wood. It has yet to happen because even the bad guys don't want to expend all their health and comfort. Trying to enjoy life in a bomb shelter is a futile idea and most of the world knows that. It will take some intelligent people to put safeguards in place. I do not think I will let it overcrowd the space in my head until more reports come down the pipe from those who are charged with controlling the problem.

Let's be careful, we're getting into politics and that's against the rules.

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There are elected office holders in the Federal government who have routinely engaged in fraud and criminality, yet they still have the support of their party and a substantial portion of the American electorate. With that as an example of what is acceptable, why would we expect the folks running AI to behave in a responsible manner? The efficacy of the technology is too intoxicating, and the potential for obscene profitability is too great. The genie is out of the bottle.

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What you say has been a constant in human nature for all of history. You are talking about, different values,  ethics, actions, and views on those things and on other people, and the bent on being judgmental while our own egos are ignored.  And that effects every corner of our life from the medical, to the journalists, mechanics, teachers, coaches, musicians, administrators, judiciary...everything. Yet life goes on and you need to keep dealing with everything despite of this. And to balance this, there are a lot of good thoughts, intents, actions, and adjustments. Seems like we have survived pretty well. 

Ken

We lose something as a species with every step further into the sinkhole of wanton technological “advances”. We’re meant to be closer to nature, un-manipulated.

But, but, but, your "wanton" and mine might not align.   

[And while we're on the subject ... from the wonton I've sampled, I'm not too sure it's an advancement for the species.   ]

Ken, I suspect there's quite a few who would leave "pretty well" out of ^^ assessment.   Maybe it depends on how wide the net gets cast?? .... and both individual and collective aspirations??  Otoh... and to now face the day with an empty philosophy tank ... "things could always be worse."  

I agree with Chuck. As a species we have strayed too far from the melody line. We are part of nature, which created us, from where our physical beings came from and will return to (no one is exempt) and can never be divorced from it no matter how hard we try.

It's not Artificial Intelligence so much as Unnatural Intelligence. There. I re-branded it.

Personally, I would like to live in the Smokies on the side of a hill, hike 4 times a week and go to Ole Smoke Moonshine Distillery to listen to bluegrass regularly. But time goes on and the human mind keeps coming up with new things and causing change. Yeah, you know, the only constant is change.

It is not Unnatural Intelligence. It was conceived of by man and made by man and ideas cannot be put back in a bottle. They live and die by their own merit.
Is the glass half empty or half full? Which attitude determines success? This great intelligence has the capacity to help us so enormously. We can't run from it. We need to embrace it and positively utilize it. Yes there have been fatal accidents in autos going 70mph, but do you want to go back to the horse and buggy?
ken

If AI solves the world's problems we might not like some of the answers.
Who's skippering that ship?

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If AI solves the world's problems we might not like some of the answers.
Who's skippering that ship?

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Steve, I doubt anyone likes all the answers now. Nor is anyone skippering this ship now. 

I once read that Artificial Intelligence is when a blonde dyes her hair to be a brunette.

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I once read that Artificial Intelligence is when a blonde dyes her hair to be a brunette.

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I already posted this on Facebook, but I figure the more exposure the better.

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I went from curious to resentful to concerned, now I’m worried.

 

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I found your first sentence amusing. My father oft claimed, "Men don't worry. Men are concerned. Women worry. " He would then proceed to tell my mother, "Mother, you're worried about Rebecca. You should give her a call." Because, you know, men don't worry.

My son and I were discussing the idea of AI friends. I feel I have gotten too selfish and set in my ways to deserve a people friend and wondered how I would do with an AI. After hearing they just parrot back what you tell them to say to you, I was horrified. I guess I'm not as selfish as I thought I was. I can't abide a "Yes" man. 

Garbage in, garbage out. If the AI is acting out, someone programmed it to do so. "It learned it on it's own" sounds like an excuse my brother would use. "Casper the Ghost" was routinely blamed for broken items. It's a lot of gaslighting ballyhoo created so programmers don't have to shoulder responsibility.

Where I work, we are supposed to be thrilled that we are supposed to be receiving an AI at the end of the month that will "make our work easier" ie, replace a human worker.  Color me sketical. I give it a month before it's broken and or obsolete. The job requires actual thinking. Not a lot, but more than an AI is capable of doing. It is going to need a human being to continuously update, override and reprogram.

Not AI, but ........

Fwiw, I'm no expert, but my take on AI is that there's a bit more to it than, "garbage in, garbage out."

No morals or conscience?
Same old/same old.

As of late we in this city are inundated with under age drivers in possession of fast electric motorcycles. We have had electrical assist bicycles for awhile but the Harley versions are something new. There don't seem to be any new laws for the new bikes. The authorities are aware of the recent hazzards and accidents but will they act on this problem before takes a few lives ? If there is this kind of dithering with A.I. hazzards, we may have a problem Houston.

some borg dude on star trek said it best

"any show of resistance would be futile"

I am so glad I can hide in the woods and pretend everything is Hunky Dory.