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Sep 17, 2026 - 7:06:19 PM
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10018 posts since 9/21/2007

No, my Mac searches and gives results from the thousands of pages of banjo documents I have scanned. Old issues of banjo magazines from the 19th century, banjo tutors, etc.

I don’t know how. But it will search the text even if it was printed in 1912.

Sep 18, 2026 - 4:42:32 AM

banjoy

USA

12062 posts since 7/1/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

No, my Mac searches and gives results from the thousands of pages of banjo documents I have scanned. Old issues of banjo magazines from the 19th century, banjo tutors, etc.

I don’t know how. But it will search the text even if it was printed in 1912.


Joel, I did not know that. I have Acrobat Pro on my Mac I'll give it a try. Thank you for correcting me. Still, for this project as proposed, a pdf would not be searchable for photos, tablature, cartoons, etc., much less the credits and whatnot. Or indexing and cross referencing. AI can capture all that.

Sep 18, 2026 - 6:15:59 AM
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83 posts since 1/25/2019

HI,

I doubt that I'm the only member of Banjo Hangout who has compiled a well organized personal database of banjo related videos, images and information. All geared towards my personal area of learning when applied to the banjo.

That aside. I would bet money that you can access most, if not all, of this information already?

Just read through the banjo related information of your search result. Look for key words or information which relates to your interest(s) and use them to refine your search criteria. Search website videos. And you can always ask for specific information here within Banjo Hangout.

Most likely you will find what you are looking for right here at Banjo Hangout....?

Sep 18, 2026 - 7:03:36 AM
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34 posts since 3/23/2026

I'm with banjoy on the solution. The easy part would be a search algorithm in a locally run webpage that returns you to the pdf. The hard part would be making your data cleaner to search from like a table of contents for each issue. Otherwise, separating tabs from other types of articles would be harder automatically identify, and searching the OCR for every instance of a phrase is more intensive and would probably leave you with mixed results.

What we should all agree on is how annoying the double standard is that it is illegal for citizens to digitize books they have in possession (even if the original is destroyed after), but AI companies can do this, put all of the exact information into a neural network matrix to train an algorithm they will sell access to, and the courts see that as transformative.

Sep 19, 2026 - 8:43:45 AM

1094 posts since 4/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

 where someone is rhetorically covering his butt,



LOL.....oh the irony!

Precisely what those who criticized the OP are attempting to do now! "It wasn't my fault I assumed incorrectly.... the OP used language that I didn't understand clearly! It was easier to assume than wait for more information."

Or, the hackneyed, old and tired response:

"Well.... anyone would have come to the same conclusion....it was the choice of words, not my fault!"

I communicated with the OP via pm.

He's a guy like us who just loves the banjo.

He just happened upon the "perfect storm" of misinterpretation, somewhat ambiguous language and..... a rush to judgment by overzealous forum members!

Sep 19, 2026 - 9:25:06 AM

1094 posts since 4/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

IMNSHO, the OP's pointedly frequent use of "hypothetically" is the sort of thing we often see in posts (maybe not here, but certainly elsewhere) 



So, the key word that made everyone go nuts

was "hypothetically?"

Still trying to understand it.

Edited by - Mark Douglas on 09/19/2026 09:28:13

Sep 19, 2026 - 10:48:21 AM
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banjoy

USA

12062 posts since 7/1/2006

Mark, let it go. Are you a BHO Social Justice Warrior or something? The OP's personal spokesman? Can you tamp down the lecturing? You've made your point. Your personal attacks on other members gets old.

Sep 19, 2026 - 10:59:02 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

33379 posts since 8/3/2003

Mark Douglas

I agree with Banjoy: that's enough, let's drop it, okay?

Sep 20, 2026 - 5:46:01 AM
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5413 posts since 3/28/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Douglas
quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

IMNSHO, the OP's pointedly frequent use of "hypothetically" is the sort of thing we often see in posts (maybe not here, but certainly elsewhere) 



So, the key word that made everyone go nuts

was "hypothetically?"

Still trying to understand it.

 

 


It wasn't that word in isolation. Context matters just as much as word choice..

Edited by - Ira Gitlin on 09/20/2026 05:49:44

Sep 20, 2026 - 10:15:28 AM

1094 posts since 4/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Douglas
quote:
Originally posted by Ira Gitlin

IMNSHO, the OP's pointedly frequent use of "hypothetically" is the sort of thing we often see in posts (maybe not here, but certainly elsewhere) 



So, the key word that made everyone go nuts

was "hypothetically?"

Still trying to understand it.

 

 


It wasn't that word in isolation. Context matters just as much as word choice..



I hear ya.....

Thanks.

Sep 20, 2026 - 4:19:01 PM
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17826 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by banjoy
I have Acrobat Pro on my Mac I'll give it a try. 

If you're talking about the search part, you don't need Acrobat Pro for that. Full text search (of text-searchable documents) on your Mac and any drive connected to it (including your iCloud Drive or Dropbox, I think) is built into the Mac OS. Has been for years.

From the Finder (any time you're not in another app) hit Command-F  or select:  File > Find. The "Find" window opens. On my computer, the top right of the window frame says: Searching "This Mac". Now, there's a search box at the top right, but you're not going to use that. Instead, you're going to describe a specific search using this wondow's drop-down menus and context-sensititve search boxes.

Suppose you're looking for any article that mentions Alan Munde. You're first choice in the window's top line is to select (click on) the place you want to search. At this moment, I'm getting the choice of  This Mac or "Desktop."  If You click any of the network locations, attached drives or folder shortcuts in the sidebar, they'll show up as a choice for where to search. For, now, choose This Mac.

The next thing you'll do is define your search. Easy. The first drop-down menu that appears lets you choose what search for document attributes: kind, various dates, name, contents, or other (which gives a ridiculously large range of attributes you'd search for in specific types of files, such as searching your videos for  director). For now, we'll choose "contents." 

This makes the word "contains" appear, followed by an empty search box. Type "Alan Munde" (no quotes) in the box. No need to hit return. Just completitng the search term brings up a list of on your computer (including conected drives) that contain the term "Alan Munde." Like any list of files in the Finder, each one is immediately clickable to be opened. If you click only once to select the file, the bottom of the frame displays the path to it.

In Windows, this is done with File Explorer.

No need for other software. Or "hyperlinks." I believe the Mac indexes 

I totally apologize if you know all this and I gave you an unnecessary tutorial. But your posts give me the impression you're not aware of the search-by-contents capability built into the Mac OS. The system continuously updates. Changed documents are searchable within seconds.

Enjoy.

Sep 20, 2026 - 7:52:50 PM

banjoy

USA

12062 posts since 7/1/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by banjoy
I have Acrobat Pro on my Mac I'll give it a try. 

I totally apologize if you know all this and I gave you an unnecessary tutorial. But your posts give me the impression you're not aware of the search-by-contents capability built into the Mac OS. The system continuously updates. Changed documents are searchable within seconds.

 

Apparently I'm not the only one who reads over and past things. I've stated many times (not in this thread but many times on BHO) my Mac is at least 16+ years old. It might be 19+ years old. It was the professional tool I made a living on for many years. It has not been connected to the internet in years. No, it does not have that capability. I dumped Apple when they dumped me for the nth time. No matter, can you imagine doing what you just described for decades of BNL's or any project? Good. Have at it.

Enjoy.

Sep 21, 2026 - 2:31:34 PM
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17826 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by banjoy 
...my Mac is at least 16+ years old. It might be 19+ years old. . . . It has not been connected to the internet in years. No, it does not have that capability

The Mac OS has had search-by-content capability, invoked by Command-F, since version 8.5 released in October 1998.

Whatever OS you're running on your 16-year-old-Mac, you can definitely find files stored on its internal hard drive and any external drive connected to it.

Internet connection has nothing to do with finding files using Command-F. This finds files on your local drive.

Yes, I did mention that it also works for Internet-connected storage locations such as Dropbox and iCloud Drive. But those are additional places it works. Not the only places.  No Internet connection is need to invoke the Mac's Find command.

quote:
Originally posted by banjoy 
. . .can you imagine doing what you just described for decades of BNL's or any project? Good. Have at it.

Not only can I imagine it, I use this feature nearly every day to find files by what's in them.

What does the searched for content being "decades of BNL" have to do with anything? The Mac's "Find" - Command-F - function is document- and quantity-agnostic. It doesn't care what you're looking for or how much of it there is. ALL that matters is the files or documents are on an internal or attached storage device from which you normally access them.  If decades of BNL fit on a drive connected to your Mac, the  Mac OS can search for them: by file name, creation date, document type, and content.

To be clear:  What I'm describing assumes the archive being searched has already created and stored in text-searchable form (as in the archive this whole discussion is about).  I'm not addressing at all the work of scanning them all and creating the archive (in case that's what you were getting at).

And to repeat something from the previous post: You don't have to do anything. No work is involved. The Mac OS automatically indexes what's stored on it.

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