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Even lower tuning on long neck?

From banjobard on 3/8/2025 9:55:37 AM

I know that with typical or perhaps medium gauge strings people like to tune their long neck banjos three half steps down from standard (to E from g), but do any of you use even thicker strings and go down further in pitch? Down into baritone or cello banjo range? I realize that most long necks out there have 11" pots and so there's a limit of what will sound good on those, but it seems like if people are tuning regular scale length nanos down that far, the long neck ought to be able to do it better. If you do, what running do you use and what string gauges work for you?

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DublinLongNeck1993 says:
3/8/2025 10:46:36 AM

I’ve had good results with 12 gauge strings lowered down to open D and C tuning. And this was on a Tubaphone long neck. Gauges were 12 16 18 26 and 12. Hope this helps.

Seán

DublinLongNeck1993 says:
3/8/2025 10:50:55 AM

I’ve had good results with 12 gauge strings lowered down to open D and C tuning. And this was on a Tubaphone long neck. Gauges were 12 16 18 26 and 12. Hope this helps.

Seán

coalandice says:
3/8/2025 3:00:27 PM

What about nylon strings or fishing line?

Joe Phillips says:
3/8/2025 7:01:23 PM

I too would interested to know whether nylon or similar strings are available in ling neck lengths.

dhergert says:
3/9/2025 10:00:17 AM

I can share fishing line experience with a couple of banjos that may help... I started using fishing line on a SS Stewart American Princess, a slightly short-scale late 1880s banjo, tuned to open G. Most monofilament fishing line is labeled by pound-test, not by gauge, so you have to experiment to find just the right weight. Testing involves finding the right tension so the strings don't break and so they don't buzz. Each string needs to be tested also to make sure it will work properly when tied with the tailpiece and the tuner post hole.

Tailpieces can be interesting -- my SS Stewart came to me with an earlier version of a no-knot (Elite) tailpiece, then later I was able to find an original Common Sense with a rosette and had to re-tie the strings for that.

Everything worked well and I use those strings to this day. Monofilament strings last a long, long time.

Then I tried to find monofilament strings for my cello banjo, tuned to octave-lower open G, and was unable to find a usable weight string that was thin enough to fit through the tuner post holes. Finally I gave up and purchased production chrome-steel metal strings for that banjo, which also last forever if kept clean, and sound passably ok considering the Renaissance head material and the octave of the strings. I would have liked to use monofilament, but just couldn't find it. I even tried sine relatively thin Kevlar-core monofilament double bass strings but they were also too thick for the tuner post holes.

Having had this experience with other banjos, for a long-neck banjo I'd be surprised if a monofilament string could be found that (a) would fit through the tuner post holes and (b) not buzz due to long scale length -- relief becomes an issue and even with a loose truss rod the long neck probably isn't going to be able to get enough relief to prevent buzzing with these lower tension strings tuned to C or D. A non-truss rod neck probably would probably also never naturally achieve sufficient relief. The only real way to get sufficient relief would be to plane the fingerboard for proper low-tension relief and then re-fret it, which for vintage instruments might not be a good thing.

If you are lucky enough to find monofilament strings that would work, you'll probably find they are very tolerant of worn frets. My SS Stewart came to me with seriously rutted frets from someone using "wire" strings with it, and the monofilament strings work wonderfully despite that.

FWIW, the tone of monofilament strings on a banjo mimics gut strings very nicely.

Best of luck with this!

dhergert says:
3/9/2025 10:11:20 AM

P.S. FWIW, I just use production Ernie Ball light gauge strings on my Gibson RB-180... They sound good, and are low enough tension that I can either tune them to open E or open G.

Knowing what I've experienced with monofilament strings, if I wanted more gut-like tone I'd probably just replace the head with a Renaissance head.

TonyNyc says:
3/17/2025 11:24:59 AM

Thanks guys. I tried nylon on my 12 string. I may try again- you actually need 2 sets


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