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Mike Rowe - Posted - 07/07/2018: 08:48:51
Since there is now a patent on the new Rickard 10:1 and 16:1 ratio tuners we wanted to share how it is possible.
The cycloidal gears make a minimum of 3 points of tangential contact at all times. There is never any backlash as is possible in the normal planetary gears.
A surprise benefit is that these tuners do not require tension springs or leather washers to keep them from slipping and the string going out of tune. The tension springs are still used, for tradition’s sake.
The first batches are in raw brass or, possibly, antiqued brass.
Depending on demand, they’ll be offered in polished stainless or polished nickel-plated brass.
This has been a great adventure I’ve shared with Bill Rickard and Sean Sewell. It only took 14 revisions to perfect the design!
There are several other projects coming down the pike:
10:1 ratio 5th string tuners.
D-tuners that are 10:1 ration for tuning but are 1:1 ratio for d-tuning, similar to the cam type d-tuners, but don’t require modifications to your banjo, like extra holes or screws in your peghead.
A few others too!
Please click to see the internal mechanism that allows the movement:
Be sure to "right click" on the video when it starts and check "loop" to get the full effect!
New Rickard 10:1 ratio tuner.
New Rickard 16:1 ratio tuner.
Edited by - Mike Rowe on 07/07/2018 09:01:47
DASJO - Posted - 07/07/2018: 12:43:16
Congratulations guys!!!!
This is a tremendous accomplishment. Sign me up for at least two full sets of nickel plated brass when they are available. I hope your pricing is competitive with standard planets.
Best Wishes, Dave
R Buck - Posted - 07/07/2018: 13:20:14
Hmm, I guess there will be examples at Clifftop? Got try them first.
Dan Drabek - Posted - 07/07/2018: 15:10:41
Thumbs up for developing a superior tuner design while maintaining a traditional look. Complementary D tuners would be most interesting.
DD
Quickstep192 - Posted - 07/07/2018: 17:39:48
This changes everything. I'd like to get five of the raw brass when they're available. (Next banjo has a tunneled 5th)
Helix - Posted - 07/08/2018: 05:22:35
Thanks to you all, good teamwork.
This is a real step forward for banjo people, it takes us out of this same-ness, it crosses the county line from SAME to Open Country,great work, can't wait to get my hands on some.
Mike Rowe - Posted - 07/08/2018: 08:15:30
Here's a picture of some of the first batch!
derft - Posted - 07/08/2018: 08:34:04
What knob choices will be available?
Quickstep192 - Posted - 07/08/2018: 08:40:16
OK, Mike, you've got us drooling! How soon can we buy them?
Will1717 - Posted - 07/08/2018: 09:53:55
I'll be posting some additional photos shortly of the single tuners in polished raw brass and the antiqued brass finish. We originally started by designing and building a higher quality geared 4:1 planetary tuner, that we also built in a polished stainless steel. I'll get a photo of one of these in the polished stainless steel finish so those interested in the stainless steel or nickel plated finish, can see what the polished stainless steel 10:1 tuners will look like when completed. Looks like we may have built up an inventory of the 4:1 planetary tuners that we've now made obsolete, with the introduction of our new cycloidal 10:1 / 16:1 tuners. As per button choices, we presently have an Ebony and a Boxwood tuner button available (real wood) but the button shaft will accept any button that will fit the standard Gotoh planetary tuners.
As Mike mentioned; we've been jointly working on this new tuner design for approx 2 years now and after revision 14 we finally feel real comfortable in introducing this new design to the market. Part of our testing involved designing and building an automated testing machine controlled by a programmable controller. This device allowed us to continually lift and lower a heavy weight, which was suspended from one of our 10:1 ratio tuners, simulating the tuner under full string tension. We also rotated the tuners in a lathe for approx. 34,000 revolutions, and witnessed virtually no wear when compared to a standard planetary tuner put through the same testing. Lots more to come!
Bill Rickard
rubicon - Posted - 07/08/2018: 10:38:06
This is great news Bill ! you are one of the finest pioneers in banjo development and your products are second to none !!
Helix - Posted - 08/25/2018: 04:58:12
I have contacted with an email. Are these tuners available? I will call next week.
Jay Keller - Posted - 09/12/2018: 13:24:01
Please click to see the internal mechanism that allows the movement:
Be sure to "right click" on the video when it starts and check "loop" to get the full effect!
New Rickard 10:1 ratio tuner.
New Rickard 16:1 ratio tuner.
Thanks, Mike, these are excellent. I believe the animations could be made even clearer if there was a dot or arrow somewhere on the input and output parts to better appreciate their rotation.
I am excited about these from a technical standpoint, kudos to all involved. I have a Martin 5-17T with 1928 Grover pancakes on it which could wear a set of these very well, I bet.
Mike Rowe - Posted - 09/12/2018: 13:28:41
Hello Jay,
There is an arrow on the input at the 9:00 position. I left the arrow off the output as the animation only makes one lap, and I thought an output arrow would be confusing, constantly restarting.
Thanks for the input,
Mike
Rawhide Creek - Posted - 09/12/2018: 14:18:11
A very interesting development! When they’re available in nickel, I’d like to have three sets.
mutantmoose - Posted - 09/12/2018: 19:37:04
I think you may have buried the lead - those "D" tuners sound incredible!
Jay Keller - Posted - 09/18/2018: 13:16:35
Last week I tried a set of the Rickard cycloidal tuners in Frank Ford's shop. He's got them installed on an early-30's 000-18, which I suppose originally had Grover pancake tuners or something equally horrible. He sort of sprung this on me, so I had no idea what I was looking at for a while, but now that Frank's told me the story and I've seen the drawings, I can appreciate how really great these are.
Frank has a clear-housing example of his giant pin-based cycloidal tuner, part of the set he made for the one-off bass banjo he fabricated in 2016. It's an amazing banjo and the tuners are possibly the most amazing parts. But they do have the disadvantage, as Frank explained to me, of having a reversed output-shaft direction compared to what the player is accustomed to. To me this is cosmetic, which is not to say unimportant. The Rickard design fixes this, it's pretty clever stuff.
The tuners feel great. I don't play banjo, but I am used to Waverleys on my two most-played guitars and these new tuners are just as smooth. I have Grover pancake tuners on a 1928 Martin 5-17T, so I know how troublesome they can sometimes be. Maybe I should treat that old tenor to set of new cycloidal machines.
The cycloidal mechanism is ideal because there is no hysteresis/backlash/slop.
From what I saw, prototypes I guess, the fit and finish is first-rate, including the packaging (laser-etched aromatic cedar on the one I saw).
Um... wow!
WayneConrad - Posted - 10/05/2018: 12:20:17
I just had Helix install a set of Rickard 10:1 tuners on the banjo he built for me. I got the boxwood knobs. Tuning is a breeze compared to the 4:1 planetaries I've used, and they feel more sure (because of no backslash?) than the guitar tuners that most of my other banjos have. And the Rickards are pretty. I'm very pleased so far.
Bonus: They come in a really nice box that your wife can steal.
tombones - Posted - 10/05/2018: 14:13:52
I haven't commented on anything in over a year, but I've been watching the threads about these tuners religiously, and I would love to purchase some if they are for sale.
JoshuaWhite - Posted - 11/17/2018: 09:26:50
Have there been any developments or places to buy these yet?
GSCarson - Posted - 11/17/2018: 12:43:00
I was able to purchase two early 10:1 sets, they are fantastic. I installed the first set on my personal player openback banjo and the other on another banjo I finished this year, Will Fielding's last custom banjo. I consider Bill Rickard and Sean Sewell friends, and I've never been disappointed in anything that comes out of the Rickard shop, but got to say they have a winner with these new tuners for sure.
R Buck - Posted - 11/17/2018: 13:04:47
I think the question was "Where can I buy some?". So do you know oh keeper of deep banjo truths? Obviously because you got some.
Will1717 - Posted - 11/17/2018: 14:36:14
I guess its time to break the silence. Unfortunately we just haven't had the time to post details, pricing etc. on our site as we just completed a HUGE move to a new facility plus are still in the process of getting the new banjo shop fully set up. All I can say is this has to be the last move for this body!
It's a long story as to why we moved, as our existing shop was perfect and fully operational. The whole story as to the reasons for the move really has nothing to do with banjos, or manufacturing banjo tuners etc. so I'll skip all the details, other than this has been a hard move (or possibly it's just age catching up with me?).
The bottom line is; the best way to order these new tuners is to email us at the shop, and we'll follow up with all the details etc. ASAP. Our shop address is info@rickardbanjos.com. One of the most interesting things about these new tuners is that the guitar guys seem to be extremely interested in switching or fitting their guitars with planetary style banjo tuners, but they all seem to stay away in the past due to the 4:1 ratio and typical problem of a planetary tuner not staying in tune. We've actually shipped sets of these new tuners to numerous guitar and harp guitar builders, plus Frank Ford at Gryphon Stringed Instruments, who can't seem to get enough to retrofit guitars. This is something that I'd never thought of when we designed and built these tuners. Also interesting is how the guitar guys have no interest in raw brass or antiqued brass finishes, which is a total opposite when compared to the banjo world. Because of this demand we can now offer from stock tuner sets in a nickel plated finish, plus gold plated finish on special order (approx.2 weeks from order). We'll also be adding some additional button materials in the near future.
I'll post some photos of the nickel and gold plated tuners shortly, plus a concept drawing/model of the cycloidal 5th string tuner that is presently in production.
As they say so many interesting projects, just not enough hours in a lifetime!
BillRickard
Will1717 - Posted - 11/17/2018: 14:47:23
The photo shows the first new 10: tuner that Sean just assembled with gold plating and boxwood buttons
Will1717 - Posted - 11/28/2018: 17:14:39
We've finally got our new cycloidal 5th string tuners worked out and instead of pasting the artist concept drawings we thought that we'd just attach some photos of the real thing. These are the first to be assembled and actually installed on a banjo but the good news is that they work! Mike Rowe, Sean and I have spent many hours to date building and modifying drawings to get what you see, plus listened to all those complaints about existing 5th string tuners that do the job some what but lack some features that we've attempted to address with these new tuners. One of these features is the addition of a cam or shoe that's actually part of the tuner housing, to guide the string into the tuner post without digging into the neck and damaging the neck binding. You'll also note that the string actually wraps around the exterior of the body, which makes it a breeze to change that 5th. string if it breaks in the middle of a tune, will performing with the band on stage. Hopefully these additions will be considered as positive additions to the overall final product.
We still may make some minor changes before offering these new 5ths. to the banjo market, such as going to the 16:1 ratio on this particular tuner. Once we get several of these tuners mounted on some test banjos we'll firm up if we need to make any additional modifications going forward or if we should leave well enough alone.
Will keep everyone posted as to the progress.
Bill Rickard
Edited by - Will1717 on 11/28/2018 17:18:28
R Buck - Posted - 11/28/2018: 17:35:18
The 5th string tuners look somewhat familiar, kind of like these but they are 4:1.
Will1717 - Posted - 11/28/2018: 18:13:38
Bob: From a distance they look familiar but if you follow what we're doing, they're a totally different concept. The Waverly is a great quality tuner and I use to use these tuners way back when I use to play. It was kind of a love hate relationship to be honest as the string feeds into the central post and has minimal clearance to remove a broken string if it jammed between the string post and the outer casing of the tuner. It was probably much to do with me but I never figured out how to solve the issue, but at the same time many players seem to have had no problem with string changing etc. It was something that for some reason I never forgot after becoming a radio player only, as the result of a loss of an arm, which put an end to banjo playing.
The concept of the new tuner is totally different to what Waverly offers and is loved by many banjo players. What I wanted to do was design a cycliodal tuner to match up with our other newly introduced 10:1 ratio banjo tuners. These tuners are not gear driven as per standard planetary banjo tuners, and hence the higher ratio. Getting a 10:1 or 16:1 ratio with a planetary gear device just isn't possible, or I haven't figured it out as of yet and believe me I tried and tried to get the higher ratio out of a planetary system and failed in the end. By going with the cycoidal design it suddenly came to me that I could now build a cycloidal 5th tuner that would allow the string to be wrapped around the outside of the housing frame and therefore make changing broken string issues a thing of the past. (Similar to a 5th. string worm gear tuner). Mike Rowe a fellow hangout member worked with me to finally get this new concept to work, and what you see is the final result of a ton of R&D hours and many rejected prototypes. Something totally new and off the wall.
Bill
Edited by - Will1717 on 11/28/2018 18:20:10
Stu D Baker-Hawk - Posted - 11/28/2018: 18:48:13
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Originally posted by Will1717
We've finally got our new cycloidal 5th string tuners worked out and instead of pasting the artist concept drawings we thought that we'd just attach some photos of the real thing. These are the first to be assembled and actually installed on a banjo but the good news is that they work! Mike Rowe, Sean and I have spent many hours to date building and modifying drawings to get what you see, plus listened to all those complaints about existing 5th string tuners that do the job some what but lack some features that we've attempted to address with these new tuners. One of these features is the addition of a cam or shoe that's actually part of the tuner housing, to guide the string into the tuner post without digging into the neck and damaging the neck binding. You'll also note that the string actually wraps around the exterior of the body, which makes it a breeze to change that 5th. string if it breaks in the middle of a tune, will performing with the band on stage. Hopefully these additions will be considered as positive additions to the overall final product.
We still may make some minor changes before offering these new 5ths. to the banjo market, such as going to the 16:1 ratio on this particular tuner. Once we get several of these tuners mounted on some test banjos we'll firm up if we need to make any additional modifications going forward or if we should leave well enough alone.
Will keep everyone posted as to the progress.
Bill Rickard
(Sticks his fingers firmly in his ears and tightly closes his eyes) "No, no, no, la, la, la, I don't see anything, I don't hear anything, la, la, la, no, no, no, I don't need to spend anymore money, la, la, la..."
Dang it! I've already purchase two, that's T-W-O, sets of six-each of these 10:1-ratio tuners from Rickard Banjos for my guitars and a set of four-each just the other day for one of my banjos. I'm running outta money!! (By the way, from the day it was shipped [Monday] to the day I received it [Tuesday, as in YESTERDAY] was THE fastest shipping I've ever seen from Canada to the US -- it was like somebody loaded the package on the Concord and kept the afterburners lit for the entire flight! Wow!!)
Okay, all kidding aside, these Rickard 10:1 tuning pegs are THE best I've ever seen, and this coming from somebody with over 45 years of playing experience and almost as long tinkering and hot-rodding these dang 5-strings. I must've owned (and sold) over 75 banjos since the 1970s, and I've seen some pretty cool innovations come along in the banjo world, but these tuners are at the top of the heap... and now you're applying the same genius to the 5th-string tuner? 'Wow' doesn't begin to describe it.
R Buck - Posted - 11/28/2018: 19:27:25
Thanks Bill for that explanation. As pretty much an end user guy and not an engineer I saw a similarity. While the Waverly is good it did present a situation from time to time when I needed a quick change. Glenn Carson put one on a banjo, back when we both much younger like the late 70's? maybe, for me. I think I finally replaced that one. I will be in touch real soon.
Ken LeVan - Posted - 11/29/2018: 04:56:53
I haven't been following this thread, but glancing at it every now and then. I think there are now 4 threads going concurrently. I have 3 questions, which have probably been answered on these threads, so I apologize for not being able to find the answers:
(1) Are these currently on the market?
(2) If so, who sells them, and where can one see a catalog page of descriptions, options, etc.?
(3) What are the prices?
Stu D Baker-Hawk - Posted - 11/29/2018: 05:31:20
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Originally posted by Ken LeVan
I haven't been following this thread, but glancing at it every now and then. I think there are now 4 threads going concurrently. I have 3 questions, which have probably been answered on these threads, so I apologize for not being able to find the answers:
(1) Are these currently on the market?
(2) If so, who sells them, and where can one see a catalog page of descriptions, options, etc.?
(3) What are the prices?
Since I've already purchase a number of sets of these tuners, I'll try to answer these to the best of my ability.
ANSWERS:
(1) Yes, they're on the market but not yet listed on the Rickard Banjos webpage. At last inquiry, Sean at Rickard Banjos said they'll officially be listed on their 'Hardware/Parts' page VERY soon.
(2) They're available directly from Rickard Banjos in Aurora, Ontario. The following link provides you contact info: Rickard Banjos Contact Information
(3) Here's a cropped screen shot of the invoice for the four (4) RAW BRASS tuners that I just purchased this week.
Edited by - Stu D Baker-Hawk on 11/29/2018 05:32:35
Ken LeVan - Posted - 11/29/2018: 05:44:52
quote:
Originally posted by Stu D Baker-Hawk
quote:
Originally posted by Ken LeVan
I haven't been following this thread, but glancing at it every now and then. I think there are now 4 threads going concurrently. I have 3 questions, which have probably been answered on these threads, so I apologize for not being able to find the answers:
(1) Are these currently on the market?
(2) If so, who sells them, and where can one see a catalog page of descriptions, options, etc.?
(3) What are the prices?
Since I've already purchase a number of sets of these tuners, I'll try to answer these to the best of my ability.
ANSWERS:
(1) Yes, they're on the market but not yet listed on the Rickard Banjos webpage. At last inquiry, Sean at Rickard Banjos said they'll officially be listed on their 'Hardware/Parts' page VERY soon.
(2) They're available directly from Rickard Banjos in Aurora, Ontario. The following link provides you contact info: Rickard Banjos Contact Information
(3) Here's a cropped screen shot of the invoice for the four (4) RAW BRASS tuners that I just purchased this week.
Thanks,
I'll wait for them to come up on Bill's website. I would like to offer these as an optional upgrade on banjos I make, but needed to know the price. By your invoice, it was $150 + shipping for 4 tuners but no 5th - I guess that's what's now being introduced.
liestman - Posted - 12/02/2018: 08:48:31
Installed a set of these on my tenor banjo a week ago and I really like them. Thanks to the inventors and makers!
sugarinthegourd - Posted - 01/14/2019: 05:46:49
I just installed a set of 10:1s — they’re fantastic! And the shipping speed! I ordered Wed afternoon and they arrived Fri morning.
dr4dpet - Posted - 03/28/2019: 22:58:37
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Originally posted by sugarinthegourd
I just installed a set of 10:1s — they’re fantastic! And the shipping speed! I ordered Wed afternoon and they arrived Fri morning.
Did you get a 5th string tuner also? (Or only tuners for string 1 - 4?)
I guess you only would get the 5th if it was the cycloidal. Which is what I'm actually trying to find out, that is if the 5th tuners are available yet.
rupickin5 - Posted - 05/10/2019: 19:25:42
Bill, I predict these will prove to be a game changer in the banjo world! Banjos that might get into & stay in tune...waaa! Congrats on bringing these 10:1 cyclonic tuners to the marketplace!
Any update on the 10:1 tuner with the 1:1 d-tuner built in?
Thanks
Lew H - Posted - 05/14/2019: 09:25:41
All seriousness aside, what is a banjo? In the book, Banjo Roots and Branches (Robert B. Winans, Editor), a banjo is defined as a full spike plucked lute with a drum-type body, a fingerboard, and tuning pegs. This definition is used to clarify the banjo from it's many (50 or 60) African predecessors that do not have all these traits. The thinking is that the thing we can call a banjo evolved from African roots (plural intended) but became a banjo in the days of slavery in the Caribbean. But to back up for a moment, why use the word "lute?" Two types of string instruments are lutes and harps. Lutes have strings parallel (or close to that) to the sound board and a bridge, while harp strings are not parallel to he soundboard. "Full spike" refers to the neck (or an extension of it) going all the way through the body--not going half way or stopping at the edge. This definition nicely fits gourd banjos, minstrel banjos and even current openback banjos with dowel sticks rather than coordinator rods.
I was concerned that in a strict sense, the definition omits modern bluegrass banjos where the the heel of the neck abuts the rim and is attached by co-rods. I asked a friend who has been involved in this research about this matter. He only said that the co-rods are considered to be an extension of the neck. This seems like a lame excuse to me, but I still want to think of the un-spike, drum-bodied lutes used in bluegrass as banjos.
PS: Back in the seventies, I put together one of those Stew-Mac aluminum pot "banjos," where the neck simply bolted to the rim, with no rod of any sort inside. Maybe that wasn't a banjo at all--even by the scholarly definition.
Edited by - Lew H on 05/14/2019 09:32:09
rupickin5 - Posted - 05/14/2019: 15:53:03
Lew H...pardon me, but I’m at a complete loss as to what your post has to do with this BHO topic thread. I thought it was about Rickard Cyclone 10:1 banjer tuners. In other words...waaa?
stanger - Posted - 05/15/2019: 21:37:12
I'm the lucky recipient of a very old and very rare 1928 Gibson Nick Lucas plectrum guitar that is completely original.
It came with the early Grover pancake tuners, which were never built to take the tension of wound guitar strings, and two of them were showing the damages of that tension. They both ground when I tuned the guitar, and I could feel the grinding through the tuner's button.
They also have a 2:1 ratio, which make accurate tuning quite tricky. But I was very reluctant to replace the tuning pegs with new ones that might not be wearing out, but would have a similarly tight tunining ratio.
So when I first read about Bill's new Cyclone tuners, I thought they would be good possible replacements. But buying a set took some more decision time. Finally, a few months ago, I pulled the trigger and ordered a set.
By then, the word had spread about these tuning pegs, and it took quite a while for them to finally arrive; I'm sure the move to the new shop slowed Bill's production down. But the wait actually worked out well, as by the time my order came around, there were some optional ivoroid buttons that were offered, which were very close to the old ones in appearance.
They arrived 2 days ago, and I installed them on the guitar yesterday. (after a trip to Harbor Freight to buy a set of metric open wrenches; the head on the threaded collar is metric.)
They fit very snugly into the peghead holes, but they fit, just as Bill promised they would. I didn't have to force them- there just wasn't any play in the shafts at all, which is a good thing.
I have to say they totally exceeded my expectations. I re-strung the guitar, and for the first time, tuning it was supremely easy. I'm very accustomed to the short ratio of banjo pegs, and I never liked the Grover sidewinders on a banjo- far too much peg turning for me. But the 10:1 ratio only added a slight amount of additional turning, about 1/4 turn of the wrist extra. And the precision of sliding into the correct pitch was very easy to hear.
Smooth is a poor word for the experience, but that's the only word there is for these pegs. They feel very solid while in action as well- the string never slips as it comes to tune, and I needed no effort to tune the heavy 4th string at all.
Once in tune, the guitar wanted to stay in tune. I played it aggressively, but the tuners keep the strings so solid they are like locking guitar tuners without the locks.
They are extremely cleanly and crisply made and the housing is actually very elegant and beautiful. A cool bonus is the box they come in; it has a magnetic latch on the top, the lettering is milled into the material on top, and could be used as a pick box in my case. This is the first presentation grade box that is as classy as the premium product inside it!
I played the guitar for several hours today, going from one tuning to another, and now, I want to buy a 6-tuner set for a Telecaster I obtained recently. And another set for my favorite banjo.
They are expensive, but their superiority is well worth the price. I can honestly say I've never used a tuning peg that can come close to these in performance.
Here's a picture of the box, and another of my set.
regards,
stanger
monstertone - Posted - 05/16/2019: 06:46:16
Nice review and the pics of the box & the tuners are nice but,,, I want to see that guitar please. 
stanger - Posted - 05/16/2019: 16:53:10
quote:
Originally posted by monstertone
Nice review and the pics of the box & the tuners are nice but,,, I want to see that guitar please.
Sure thing!
Here it is. According to the original owner's son, all that pick damage occurred in less than 30 minutes when I drunk crawled up on stage and began playing the guitar when it was almost new, sometime in ca. 1930. The guitar was shipped from Kalamazoo to Anchorage, where the owner, who was a Montana native, was playing trumpet in a dance band there at the time. Later on it was shipped back home to Great Falls. Both times by the U.S. Post Office.
Why it's a plectrum guitar and not a tenor is still a mystery; apparently, the first owner must have played a bit of plectrum banjo before he bought the guitar, and he never played it very much, just on a few slow tunes. It was stored in the family home's attic for over 75 years.
regards,
stanger
Edited by - stanger on 05/16/2019 17:00:46
Tim Mullins - Posted - 05/16/2019: 20:04:18
I was actually just given a set of these! They are smooth, accurate, turn easily, have no backlash and stay put. They installed easily and also added a little mass compared to the Krishot 4-to-1 pancakes I had on, which seems to have added a little sustain (or maybe it's just the new strings). I think I now have about all the peghead hardware I need!
waystation - Posted - 05/21/2019: 16:04:00
Here's a set of the gold plated 10:1 tuners with amber buttons made by Ron Barnes. They are everything that everyone else on this thread has said they are.
Jbo1 - Posted - 05/21/2019: 16:27:55
waystation, yes they are great looking tuners but, DANG man! Let's see more of that banjo!
piercer - Posted - 08/27/2019: 07:52:44
I just installed my new nickel and box wood set - love them. Can instantly tell they are much better than the few tuners I have tried before.
Where can I buy extra buttons for them? I like the amber ones pictured above :-)
Edited by - piercer on 08/27/2019 07:53:16
monstertone - Posted - 08/27/2019: 08:24:30
I think waystation told you, Ron Barnes. I don't know if anyone else picked up on the binding but, yes, more of that banjo PLEASE! Those amber buttons certainly do complement the wood on that fiddle peghead, which I happen to favor over all else. I suspect that banjo is quite a looker, & most likely sounds every bit as good as it looks.
Edited by - monstertone on 08/27/2019 08:33:09
Moose_Roberts - Posted - 08/28/2019: 10:35:04
Are the 16:1 not happening? Did I miss the memo on that?
Quagmire - Posted - 08/29/2019: 18:08:51
quote:
Originally posted by monstertone
I think waystation told you, Ron Barnes...
Sadly Ron Barnes passed away on June 30, 2019.
waystation - Posted - 09/05/2019: 19:46:08
Sorry, I've been away a while. TR, thanks for updating the post regarding Ron Barnes. It was a shock to me when I found out. He had made those buttons for me only a couple of weeks before he passed. I didn't know him outside of this one transaction but he was a pleasure to do business with.
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