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beezaboy - Posted - 12/31/2017: 12:20:28
Well, Happy New Year 2018.
It was about new year 55 years ago that we were in the midst of a Hootenanny Party.
Which wouldn't have been complete without the 5-String Long Neck "Hootenanny Banjo"!
That was one keen banjo!!
There was the TV Hootenanny Show on ABC with The Limeliters, et ux.
And Hootenanny Hoot was at the movies with the Brothers Four, etc.
And lots of "folk" performers with the very cool long neck 5-string banjos.
The Gibson depicted was mine in the late 1970's. Never could play it.
But the intro to Darlin' Corey by Dave Guard and the Kingston Trio always made me glad to have had it! Of course, the Vega Folk banjo turned out to be the real Hootenanny Banjo?
flyingsquirrelinlay - Posted - 12/31/2017: 13:39:19
WHAT!!??!! No mention of Bob Gibson, Erik Darling, session musicians like Paul Prestopino and Jacob Ander. Whippersnappers may look at this stuff as Stone Age, but this is when a lot of us geezers started playing Martins and Gibsons and beginning our involvement in a new/different culture that we still enjoy/love. BTW, who is the banjo picker in the Limelighters photo?
Edited by - flyingsquirrelinlay on 12/31/2017 13:40:48
Joel Hooks - Posted - 12/31/2017: 13:45:12
John, perhaps you were having trouble playing it because you did not have a capo clamped on it?
Joe Connor - Posted - 12/31/2017: 14:07:21
David, the banjo player with the Limeliters is Alex Hassilev.
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 14:57:59
I have linked this to the Long Neck Banjos Group. Check out the Merlin Long Neck on the cover of the Hootenanny Party album. By The Way, is the banjo player in the Cumberland Three a young John Stewart?
Edited by - pastorharry on 12/31/2017 15:03:17
G Edward Porgie - Posted - 12/31/2017: 15:23:15
It's just too bad that so many good musicians got lost in the idiotic pretensions and fad-like marketing strategies which invariably mark any T.V. endeavor. Producers are heartless and will capitalize on anything, mostly ruining it in the process.
I liked the music, but hated the kitsch.
wesrichards - Posted - 12/31/2017: 15:23:39
It's like yesterday. The days may drag but the years fly. Happy New Year, fellow open
e-chorders. -- Wes Richards.
Don Huber - Posted - 12/31/2017: 15:43:33
Not taking sides here, but this type of banjo playing certainly did lead to a certain amount of contempt for urban banjo players by rural banjo pickers.
Also, because most of the Folkies played open back banjos, there was some collateral damage to the nascent OT music revival that was going on.
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 15:57:29
quote:
Originally posted by Don HuberNot taking sides here, but this type of banjo playing certainly did lead to a certain amount of contempt for urban banjo players by rural banjo pickers.
Also, because most of the Folkies played open back banjos, there was some collateral damage to the nascent OT music revival that was going on.
Curious Don what you mean by "this type of banjo playing"?
BTuno - Posted - 12/31/2017: 16:02:56
I lusted for an Ode longneck. They were by far the coolest looking long necks. But alas, could not afford one as a teenager.
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 16:17:58
quote:
Originally posted by G Edward PorgieIt's just too bad that so many good musicians got lost in the idiotic pretensions and fad-like marketing strategies which invariably mark any T.V. endeavor. Producers are heartless and will capitalize on anything, mostly ruining it in the process.
I liked the music, but hated the kitsch.
I question, first off ,what exactly was ruined ? Was it "Old Time Music", "Country Music", Blues, Cajun, Irish...etc.? All those genres were only just barely "nascent" as Don calls them when the "folk boom" broke out in Greenwich Village & San Francisco. Secondly , I've never seen any music Genre without it's particular brand of "kitsch"...can you name one? Thirdly, the music business, all of it....to be successful takes a certain amount of salesmanship and compromise. "Idiotic pretensions and fad like marketing strategies"....is today any different?
The Old Timer - Posted - 12/31/2017: 16:20:29
Gibson had to get in on the Vega long neck action once things "took off"! Like Vega, they offered a non tone ring model and a tone ring model.
I identify with the "rural" set that didn't really care for the "folkie" banjo styles.
mikehalloran - Posted - 12/31/2017: 17:01:44
quote:
Originally posted by Joe ConnorDavid, the banjo player with the Limeliters is Alex Hassilev.
Playing the first Vega Xcel.
Alex is still alive having retired in 2006.
mikehalloran - Posted - 12/31/2017: 17:05:13
quote:
Originally posted by pastorharryI have linked this to the Long Neck Banjos Group. Check out the Merlin Long Neck on the cover of the Hootenanny Party album. By The Way, is the banjo player in the Cumberland Three a young John Stewart?
John Stewart teamed up with Gil Robbins (father of actor Tim Robbins) and John Montgomery were The Cumberland Three,
Joe Connor - Posted - 12/31/2017: 17:36:43
Mike is right. Alex is the only one of the Limeliters still alive. Glen Yarborough and Lou Gottlieb are both dead. Alex owns the Limeliter name, and currently has a group performing under that name. Here's the new group's tribute to the old days:
beezaboy - Posted - 12/31/2017: 17:40:07
Oops!
How could I forget to post a photo of The Kingston Trio!!
What's a capo?![]()
Edited by - beezaboy on 12/31/2017 17:45:27
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 18:40:32
quote:
Originally posted by The Old TimerGibson had to get in on the Vega long neck action once things "took off"! Like Vega, they offered a non tone ring model and a tone ring model.
I identify with the "rural" set that didn't really care for the "folkie" banjo styles.
Dick, Please describe "Folkie" banjo styles. I'm curious to how they differ in your eyes, (other than the length of neck),from your preferred "rural" styles.
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 18:42:46
quote:
Originally posted by beezaboyOops!
How could I forget to post a photo of The Kingston Trio!!What's a capo?
John Stewart with his short lived Gibson RB-180.
G Edward Porgie - Posted - 12/31/2017: 20:06:53
quote:
Originally posted by pastorharryquote:
Originally posted by G Edward PorgieIt's just too bad that so many good musicians got lost in the idiotic pretensions and fad-like marketing strategies which invariably mark any T.V. endeavor. Producers are heartless and will capitalize on anything, mostly ruining it in the process.
I liked the music, but hated the kitsch.I question, first off ,what exactly was ruined ? Was it "Old Time Music", "Country Music", Blues, Cajun, Irish...etc.? All those genres were only just barely "nascent" as Don calls them when the "folk boom" broke out in Greenwich Village & San Francisco. Secondly , I've never seen any music Genre without it's particular brand of "kitsch"...can you name one? Thirdly, the music business, all of it....to be successful takes a certain amount of salesmanship and compromise. "Idiotic pretensions and fad like marketing strategies"....is today any different?
I simply wonder how many of those who were introduced to this music actually became fans, as opposed to those listeners/watchers who were just killing off a little time before their favorite sitcom came on.. I enjoyed the music itself before the hooey that the show generated, and almost began to despise it afterward.
It's quite certain that any genre is subject to it's own brand of nonsense. The popularity of "Shakey's Pizza" was loaded down with stupid plastic straw hats and sleeve garters that were supposed to be some sort of "honey-tonk" thing, but were really just some insipid public stereotype that marketers relied on. That fad lasted longer than the Pet Rock, but probably no longer than the Hula Hoop. Open a Shakey's type establishmnet today and you'd get an audience of about five, and that only if the Pizza was good.
My point is that true music stands on its own. It doesn't need hooey. a lot of extra hooey.Those acts you mention were what brought about the show, not the other way around, and it's my firm belief that the music has only survived because it was good, not because some TV show attempted to jam not just the good stuff, but a whole bunch of fake folk music played by hacks we've all forgotten now, down the throats of people who ultimately couldn't care less. That's what I meant when I said "ruined." The good and the real music did survive, but I do feel that some of the authenticity was lost for too long a period and the cheap stuff drove some people away from the legitimate and genuine. Perhaps had the show stuck to the real and stayed away from the cheesy, there's be more folk fans today.
I used to play at a Shakey's, and somehow, although I learned a lot and made a few bucks, that styrofoam boater and striped shirt always made me feel like a ridiculous parody of Tin Pan Alley and pre-prohibition culture, and worse yet, a pathetic sellout. I'd feel the same way picking old time banjo with a couple of my teeth blacked out and wearing tattered overalls and a battered straw hat.
Joe Connor - Posted - 12/31/2017: 20:11:35
I used to play at a Shakey's, and somehow, although I learned a lot and made a few bucks, that styrofoam boater and striped shirt always made me feel like a ridiculous parody of Tin Pan Alley and pre-prohibition culture, and worse yet, a pathetic sellout.
George, by any chance, do you have a photo you'd like to post of you in that get-up? I think we'd all just love to see it.
The Old Timer - Posted - 12/31/2017: 20:47:15
PastorHarry it's hard to put into words, but it seemed more "humma-strumma", with no drive, power or intricacy in it. Since I paid little attention to it, I don't have a lot of details in my mind to describe it. I went to a Pete Seeger concert and was quite bored, until he played one break in one number in bluegrass (sort of) 3 finger style. I stood up and yelled in surprise!
I make no slight on the "folkie" music, it just didn't speak to me, coming from old country and early bluegrass.
And vocally, the "folkie" groups simply didn't sound like any "folks" I knew making music. You could hear their education in their singing. IMHO.
Not trying to get no fight started, just answering your question to the best of my ability.
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 22:17:28
quote:
Originally posted by The Old TimerPastorHarry it's hard to put into words, but it seemed more "humma-strumma", with no drive, power or intricacy in it. Since I paid little attention to it, I don't have a lot of details in my mind to describe it. I went to a Pete Seeger concert and was quite bored, until he played one break in one number in bluegrass (sort of) 3 finger style. I stood up and yelled in surprise!
I make no slight on the "folkie" music, it just didn't speak to me, coming from old country and early bluegrass.
And vocally, the "folkie" groups simply didn't sound like any "folks" I knew making music. You could hear their education in their singing. IMHO.
Not trying to get no fight started, just answering your question to the best of my ability.
Thank you, I appreciate your honesty and your take on the music .
pastorharry - Posted - 12/31/2017: 22:25:23
quote:
Originally posted by BTunoI lusted for an Ode longneck. They were by far the coolest looking long necks. But alas, could not afford one as a teenager.
were you lusting after the banjo, or after Miss Esta ? ![]()
Joe Connor - Posted - 01/01/2018: 05:22:49
I went to a Pete Seeger concert and was quite bored, until he played one break in one number in bluegrass (sort of) 3 finger style. I stood up and yelled in surprise!
Dick, that was typical Seeger. He could play any old-timey style with the best of them, but he toned things down in concert. Usually, he did one or two above-the-rim breaks but that was it.
For Seeger, it was a matter of principle. He had started out in the 1920s playing tenor banjo, and he thought the tenor banjo was ruined by excessive virtuosity. He felt that the listener came away more impressed with the player's dexterity than the music itself. For Seeger, it was always about the music. He wanted the listener to be impressed by the song, not by his playing ability. There was also a political element to it. Folk music couldn't be the people's music if you had to be a virtuoso to play it. He wanted to encourage people to pick up guitars and banjos and make their own music.
As for other folk players, listen to some of Dave Guard's stuff. It was solid.The same with Bob Gibson, Erik Darling, Eric Weisberg and Jim (Roger) McGuinn. I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. Sure, there were some who used the banjo as little more than a prop (e.g., the Brothers Four), but some some of these guys were legitimate.
Edited by - Joe Connor on 01/01/2018 05:23:41
rexhunt - Posted - 01/01/2018: 05:46:39
I saw the New Christy Minstrels back in the 60's with Larry Ramos playing a Gibson longneck resonator Mastertone. I seemed to remember that it was a style 800 but doing a little search see that it was actually a style 500.
Rex
beezaboy - Posted - 01/01/2018: 06:03:01
Another photo of The New Christy Minstrels.
With a long neck 5-string banjo.
flyingsquirrelinlay - Posted - 01/01/2018: 07:39:47
I think many of us know that the Journeyman (infamous for "Kumbaya") broke up when John Phillips left to eventually organize the Mamas and Papas; Scott MacKenzie didn't quite make the switch, but what became of the banjo player Richard Weissberg? I recall he played very nice clawhammer ("frailing" in those days) and did some picking though without picks.
Joe Connor - Posted - 01/01/2018: 07:45:21
David, Dick Weisman of the Journeymen is still around. Great banjo player and interesting guy.
Here's a song written about Weisman (with Weisman on banjo)
youtube.com/watch?v=oLOauzTG1iQ
Edited by - Joe Connor on 01/01/2018 07:51:17
flyingsquirrelinlay - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:07:58
Thanks Joe, and my apologies for scrambling his last name.
john bange - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:08:46
quote:
Originally posted by The Old Timer
You could hear their education in their singing. IMHO.
well...we can't have that
Joe Connor - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:22:37
Check these album covers. Do you think the Princeton Trio was trying to fool people into thinking they were the Kingston Trio?
The Old Timer - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:23:30
When I was little (under 14) we used to get wicked excited at the "Hootenanny" tv shows because they "might" have a banjo player. Oscar Brand also had a short (10 minute?) syndicated radio show around noon, and rarely a banjo player would show up. In those days in the early 60s, any LP with a banjo player on it would be printed with the banner "Featuring the 5 string banjo!". Even Stanley Bros LPs had this sometimes! The compilation LPs for sure.
I was raised on the Carter Family, F&S, Louvin Bros., Bill Clifton, Stanley Brothers, Roy Acuff, so I wasn't a "folkie", and surrounded by old fashioned country music home-pickers. I was always disappointed by the "folkie" banjo players. They either couldn't or wouldn't "do anything" with their banjos.
And we bought some of those banjo compilation LPs by the noted "folkies" and I thought they were awful. It just wasn't what I was listening/watching for.
I have no doubt most of those banjo players had skills that never got displayed in their brief tv appearances.
Other than F&S on the Hillbillies and the Tonight Show w/ Johnny Carson, and maybe one time on a Hootenanny show, I guess I had to wait for the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour to see good banjo playing on tv on a weekly basis. Then Hee Haw really opened things up.
Re: Pete Seeger, I was always truly impressed by his stated desire that his entertaining would just "get the people to sing" -- that was his object. There's a man who achieved his goal! And I admire what his little instruction book did for the banjo, although I never saw one.
Again, I thank Pastor Harry for asking, and I mean no offense to anyone.
flyingsquirrelinlay - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:32:53
I have to echo oldtimer abut the Glen Campbell show, not just the occasional instrumental duet but as an antidote to most of the then-popular R&R bands. I doubt you will agree with me, Dick, but I've also had a lifelong love/admiration for Gordan Lightfoot, truly a Canadian national treasure (BTW, I enjoy the honesty of your posts).
The Old Timer - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:40:39
Tony Rice really deepened my appreciation for Lightfoot. I liked Lightfoot's "hit" records that were on the radio just fine. I'll bust into Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald at a jam session at the drop of a hat. (All the folks I jam with know to keep their hats tight on their heads.)
flyingsquirrelinlay - Posted - 01/01/2018: 08:50:52
Dick, I'll bet that your head is screwed on just about as tight as your own hat :):):)
Joe Connor - Posted - 01/01/2018: 10:08:18
Here are two videos that will show the kind of playing Pete Seeger was capable of:
youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9FP93o8Ro
youtube.com/watch?v=Hx-1SzH59AY
For a while, he worked at the Library of Congress transcribing field recordings so he heard (and learned) a lot of authentic old-time banjo styles.
Jim Yates - Posted - 01/01/2018: 13:45:06
Dick Bowden said - I was raised on the Carter Family, F&S, Louvin Bros., Bill Clifton, Stanley Brothers, Roy Acuff, so I wasn't a "folkie".
Every one of the performers you mentioned were what I'd call folk musicians. They all appeared (most on the cover) in Sing Out! The Folk Song Magazine in the sixties and their songs would be considered folk music.
My introduction to folk music was through The Kingston Trio's hit Tom Dooley in 1958. My brother Gary and a fellow boy scout Jim Cox formed a folk trio in 1960 patterned after the Kingston Trio. I played a borrowed Hofner arch top and Jim Cox played a Harmony tenor banjo. We soon replaced our instruments with a Goya M-26 Goliath, a Harmony five string and a Stella 12-string. By 1961, we had been exposed to the music of Dave Van Ronk, Ian & Sylvia, Pete Seeger, Josh White, Libba Cotten, Joan Baez, Sonny & Brownie, The Greenbriar Boys, The New Lost City Ramblers. . .
Oscar Brand had a Canadian TV show called Let's Sing Out which featured a lot of early folkies like Joni Anderson (later Mitchell), Eric Weissberg, Dave Van Ronk. . .
bungalow - Posted - 01/01/2018: 14:25:49
Good stuff ! Brings back lots of memories. Check out Hangout regular Jack Traylor on guitar with the Gateway Singers way back in the day. Happy New Year everyone.
Chris Ellis
pastorharry - Posted - 01/01/2018: 14:50:25
quote:
Originally posted by Jim YatesDick Bowden said - I was raised on the Carter Family, F&S, Louvin Bros., Bill Clifton, Stanley Brothers, Roy Acuff, so I wasn't a "folkie".
Every one of the performers you mentioned were what I'd call folk musicians. They all appeared (most on the cover) in Sing Out! The Folk Song Magazine in the sixties and their songs would be considered folk music.
My introduction to folk music was through The Kingston Trio's hit Tom Dooley in 1958. My brother Gary and a fellow boy scout Jim Cox formed a folk trio in 1960 patterned after the Kingston Trio. I played a borrowed Hofner arch top and Jim Cox played a Harmony tenor banjo. We soon replaced our instruments with a Goya M-26 Goliath, a Harmony five string and a Stella 12-string. By 1961, we had been exposed to the music of Dave Van Ronk, Ian & Sylvia, Pete Seeger, Josh White, Libba Cotten, Joan Baez, Sonny & Brownie, The Greenbriar Boys, The New Lost City Ramblers. . .
Oscar Brand had a Canadian TV show called Let's Sing Out which featured a lot of early folkies like Joni Anderson (later Mitchell), Eric Weissberg, Dave Van Ronk. . .
Speaking of D V R and LN banjos @----+--------::
Edited by - pastorharry on 01/01/2018 14:52:48
Helix - Posted - 01/01/2018: 15:00:29
Beezaboy, what a great thread, thanks very much.
Am I hearing griping and moaning from deep in the trenches? Or is that just one foot in the grave? Get out of the sandbox if it's full of other shipments from a feline's back door, learn to sift.
The longneck is not for everybody, youth has claimed it. Too late. ( ))====='== :: }
Edited by - Helix on 01/01/2018 15:02:33
stanger - Posted - 01/01/2018: 17:26:49
quote:
Originally posted by pastorharryquote:
Originally posted by BTunoI lusted for an Ode longneck. They were by far the coolest looking long necks. But alas, could not afford one as a teenager.
were you lusting after the banjo, or after Miss Esta ?
That picture sure didn't hurt Ode sales any!
Esta Clevinger actually wasn't as beautiful as she appears to be. I've seen others of her that were much less flattering.
That picture captured her best, and in some mysterious way, she is the epitome of the 'hip chick' of those times; she was kind of like Mary Travers, a girl other girls wanted to look like and all the boys wanted to date. Almost a hippy before there were any, but at the same time, a country girl who looked like she had real folk deal going on.
regards,
stanger
hbick2 - Posted - 01/01/2018: 19:25:10
It is all too easy to put down something like the folk revival but it did serve a real purpose. It awakened a whole generation to a world of music they had never dreamed of. Had it not been for the Kingston Trio, Joan Baez, Peter, Paul & Mary, Hootenanny, and lots of other such things, a lot of us would never have been exposed to anything but pop music. My older sister was a big Elvis fan but she also bought a few Kingston Trio albums, which I borrowed and never gave back to her. There was a folk music band in my high school that played mostly Kingston Trio stuff. They still get together and play the same songs. All of these things helped create an interest in the music for many people such as myself. Sure there was a lot of kitsch and hooey, but it brought exposure and with exposure came fans who went on to bigger and better things. Plus, it helped feed a lot of starving musicians.
When I started playing banjo in 1963 the only thing out there was the Pete Seeger book. Within a year or so, I was taking banjo lessons from J.D. Crowe. Fresh out of high school in 1965 a friend and I drove to the Newport Folk Festival, the Mecca of the folk revival. Sure I watched Dylan and Seeger and Baez, but you know what, I saw a lot of other things, too. Great things. How many of you ever got to see Eck Robertson play? Or Arthur Smith and the Dixieliners? Or meet Cousin Emmy? I got to see Mississippi John Hurt, Reverend Gary Davis, Son House, Maybelle Carter, the Lilly Brothers with Tex Logan, Roscoe Holcomb. I got to sit down in the middle of a field for an hour with Bill Keith and talk about banjo playing. It was the first time I ever saw Bill Monroe and the Bluegrass Boys. By the next summer I was palling around with the Bluegrass Boys at the Roanoke Bluegrass Festival. And it kept going on and on from there.
The point is that the folk revival was an important stepping stone toward what is happening today. Without it, John Hurt would have been nothing more than an old, worn out 78. It is doubtful any of us would have ever heard of Roscoe Holcomb. There was nothing wrong with the folk music that was being played it just didn’t satisfy some of us when we saw what else was out there. But it got us started. The catapulting of Bluegrass Music in the 70’s was largely because of the interest of college students not rural folk. Neil Rosenberg was getting his PhD in Folklore at Indiana University and running over to Bean Blossom on weekends. It was at Bean Blossom, before anyone knew what or where it was, that I got to meet Clayton “Pappy McMichen” and Charlie Monroe, to name a few.
Maybe some of you came to this music through divine intervention or alien abduction, but I came to it through the folk revival and I’m not ashamed to say so. There was a lot of kitsch surrounding it but there is a lot of kitsch associated with Old-Time and Bluegrass music today, too. Bands and individuals are often promoted as if they were rock stars. It’s called marketing and if it brings exposure and awareness it’s better for all of us, even the purists.
There, I've said it. Time to go to bed.
Jim Yates - Posted - 01/01/2018: 19:47:03
quote:
Originally posted by stangerquote:
Originally posted by pastorharryquote:
Originally posted by BTunoI lusted for an Ode longneck. They were by far the coolest looking long necks. But alas, could not afford one as a teenager.
were you lusting after the banjo, or after Miss Esta ?
That picture sure didn't hurt Ode sales any!
Esta Clevinger actually wasn't as beautiful as she appears to be. I've seen others of her that were much less flattering.
That picture captured her best, and in some mysterious way, she is the epitome of the 'hip chick' of those times; she was kind of like Mary Travers, a girl other girls wanted to look like and all the boys wanted to date. Almost a hippy before there were any, but at the same time, a country girl who looked like she had real folk deal going on.
regards,
stanger
Here are some old Sing Out! ads from the sixties. Sorry, you beat me to the Esta Clevevger one. Did you get yours from Sing Out!?
saulsmanb - Posted - 01/01/2018: 19:55:42
The first time I remember hearing a banjo as a child was Alex Hassilev from one of my parents records. I even used Glen Yarbrough’s stage line during one of Alex’s breaks for my senior quote when I graduated from high school:
“Amazing - all done with three fingers and a plastic head.”
To this day I still smile when I think of Max Goolis the Street Sweeping Man, and weirdly I can still remember large sections of the lyrics even though I have not heard or thought of this song in over 40 years.
I wish I had had a better musical lineage but it is what it is!
All the best.
Brian Saulsman
Jim Yates - Posted - 01/01/2018: 19:57:55
Karen Dalton was one of my long neck banjo heroes from the sixties. An under appreciated talent.
I also loved Hedy West's music.
Edited by - Jim Yates on 01/01/2018 20:00:36
stanger - Posted - 01/01/2018: 22:07:11
Has anyone ever actually seen one of those Epic banjos that were in that ad?
I saw the ad several times, but to this day, I have never seen an Epic, nor know of anyone who has. Or has owned one.
regards,
stanger
Helix - Posted - 01/02/2018: 03:40:25
Our folk group, The Minutemen, bought a STAMM from an ad in SingOUT for $30 for a paddle head 5-pc., neck. WE still have the neck and the banjo has a new rim by one the band members.
A honkin' filial decorates the old one. and here's a picture of another STAMM that I found.
Edited by - Helix on 01/02/2018 03:41:37
Helix - Posted - 01/02/2018: 03:42:47
I want to see an Epic, too. I was stationed at Fitzsimmons when somebody was in Littleton, I couldn't get free to hire a taxi. Our banjo was at Kansas Univ. in Lawrence by that time.
Edited by - Helix on 01/02/2018 03:48:24
Helix - Posted - 01/02/2018: 03:45:49
As an aside, "we" at Fiddler's Dream were recently in touch with Peggy Seeger inviting her to visit. She says she won't visit the USA until there is better health care, she might get ill while she is here. She lives in England, very best wishes sister.
She encourages us to keep nipping at Trump.s heel. And of course she still has her longneck.
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