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Prof - Posted - 12/14/2012: 10:09:56
Sad, sad situation developing in a Connecticut elementary school -- send out some prayers, folks.
jason999 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 10:15:06
I felt sick when I saw this a few minutes ago, and my wife just called from work upset. It's beyond comprehension.
pandjlocke - Posted - 12/14/2012: 10:17:55
I can't begin to describe the feeling in the pit of my gut right now. I feel so sorry for the parents of these children.
Mopick - Posted - 12/14/2012: 10:21:54
My co-worker Bob is from Danbury Conn. I just called upstairs and told him. He said he heard at lunch that a kid was killed. The latest I just saw said 27 people were killed, 18 children. Beyond sad.
jwoods - Posted - 12/14/2012: 10:45:52
I am so angry about this, I can't see straight right now.
Children...
Something has to be done.
And before all the "I have a right to own a gun" types start running their mouths, I'll say this...
I grew up around guns...we hunted. So I know how to use them, and respect them. I am not in favor of banning guns.
HOWEVER, NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, unless you are law enforcement or military, should own a semi-automatic weapon.
If you want a gun for protection, get a 6-shot revolver. And if 6 rounds ain't enough to stop an intruder, you need to learn to shoot.
pandjlocke - Posted - 12/14/2012: 11:04:59
I know it's difficult and I may not have a right to ask this, but can we please limit this thread only to discussion of our grief, anger, disappointment, etc? I think we owe the victims this respect. Any discussion, for or against gun control can be done in another thread. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Voyageur - Posted - 12/14/2012: 11:14:32
Paddy, I think you are right to ask this, although I understand the feelings that prompted Jason's comment.
I feel sick beyond words. I can't think that prayer is going to do much good. How hard do you have to pray to feel even one iota of comfort over such a hideous thing? If I were the mother of one of those children, I don't know how I could go on living. But I guess I'll pray anyway, because I can't do anything else.
Alaina - Posted - 12/14/2012: 11:43:28
I just read that it is up to 19 children dead. I want to know what in the world possessed this psycho to do something as horrible as this. 19 children who were just going to school, getting ready for Christmas break, living life are now dead. I pray wholeheartedly for the families of the victims and for the children who witnessed what this <insert derogatory swear word here> "guy" did. I just don't understand what could possess someone to do such a horrible thing ![]()
Mopick - Posted - 12/14/2012: 11:52:13
I just heard on the radio that the guy's mother was a teacher there. She is among the dead, he targeted her and her class. That's just what I heard. You know the story changes as the actual facts come out.
kipperr - Posted - 12/14/2012: 12:02:11
quote:
Originally posted by steve j.
why why why, how can someone do this?
At the risk of getting into religion, I would just advise you to contemplate mankind's human nature.
But most of all, ask for prayers for the families.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those involved.
What a tragic day. Beyond words.
Mopick - Posted - 12/14/2012: 12:04:18
And now they are saying his father was found dead at the house in New Jersey.
jbanjoist - Posted - 12/14/2012: 13:01:49
Words can't communicate all the different levels of tragedy and hurt the families of these children and adults will feel. My heart and prayers go out to them.
banjoman56 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 13:18:33
These are the worst kind of tragedies, when innocent, helpless children becomes the victims. This guy didn't just develop into a crazed killer overnight. There needs to be some kind of screening method to identify these potential killers and either get them help or whatever before they become killers. The parents and families of these children certainly need our prayers, as well as the other children in that school. They have to be devastated by the loss of their schoolmates.
Steve Jeter - Posted - 12/14/2012: 13:32:09
quote:
Originally posted by kipperr
quote:
Originally posted by steve j.
why why why, how can someone do this?
At the risk of getting into religion, I would just advise you to contemplate mankind's human nature.
But most of all, ask for prayers for the families.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those involved.
What a tragic day. Beyond words.
I know,, but that doest make it any better
Laurence Diehl - Posted - 12/14/2012: 13:32:10
Terrible news. There is no way to make sense of these tragedies. This is as bad as it gets.
fivebranch - Posted - 12/14/2012: 13:39:32
This is deffinently a tragic day along with the mall shooting. I don't have any answers but until all the facts come in I will withhold any critical comment. I'm sure there was something that pushed this person to do this horrible deed. What that is it will be released. The common link to both shootings is semi automatic weapons and the age.
Edited by - fivebranch on 12/14/2012 13:48:35
The Mighty Ant - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:12:26
He killed his brother. Then he killed his mother. Then he opened fire on third graders. (((THIRD GRADERS)))!!!
Can it get worse than this? I dont know what to say. Tears. Cant stop
May Almighy God bless and comfort all of the victims of this unimaginable insanity.
stanleytone - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:36:28
what if the intruder has a semi automatic?
quote:
Originally posted by jwoods
I am so angry about this, I can't see straight right now.
Children...
Something has to be done.
And before all the "I have a right to own a gun" types start running their mouths, I'll say this...
I grew up around guns...we hunted. So I know how to use them, and respect them. I am not in favor of banning guns.
HOWEVER, NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, unless you are law enforcement or military, should own a semi-automatic weapon.
If you want a gun for protection, get a 6-shot revolver. And if 6 rounds ain't enough to stop an intruder, you need to learn to shoot.
Alaina - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:44:02
quote:
Originally posted by stanleytone
what if the intruder has a semi automatic?
quote:
Originally posted by jwoods
I am so angry about this, I can't see straight right now.
Children...
Something has to be done.
And before all the "I have a right to own a gun" types start running their mouths, I'll say this...
I grew up around guns...we hunted. So I know how to use them, and respect them. I am not in favor of banning guns.
HOWEVER, NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, unless you are law enforcement or military, should own a semi-automatic weapon.
If you want a gun for protection, get a 6-shot revolver. And if 6 rounds ain't enough to stop an intruder, you need to learn to shoot.
Then you shoot first and don't miss.
jbanjoist - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:55:05
quote:
Originally posted by pandjlocke
I know it's difficult and I may not have a right to ask this, but can we please limit this thread only to discussion of our grief, anger, disappointment, etc? I think we owe the victims this respect. Any discussion, for or against gun control can be done in another thread. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Can't we agree? Please?
James Stiltner - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:55:34
I'm gutted to death to hear this.......There's no words to even describe this senseless tragedy.
vintagewells - Posted - 12/14/2012: 14:55:38
We all cry and pray for the children, the families and community. This is horrific. I still feel the grief of losing a friend and an acquaintance on 1/8/11. Nothing is ever the same again.
vintagewells - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:01:42
We lost one child in that shooting, here 20 have been taken away from us. It is too horrendous. Give your kids a hug and hold them close. Love them now and forever,
stanleytone - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:07:44
quote:
Originally posted by Alaina
quote:
Originally posted by stanleytone
what if the intruder has a semi automatic?
quote:
Originally posted by jwoods
I am so angry about this, I can't see straight right now.
Children...
Something has to be done.
And before all the "I have a right to own a gun" types start running their mouths, I'll say this...
I grew up around guns...we hunted. So I know how to use them, and respect them. I am not in favor of banning guns.
HOWEVER, NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, unless you are law enforcement or military, should own a semi-automatic weapon.
If you want a gun for protection, get a 6-shot revolver. And if 6 rounds ain't enough to stop an intruder, you need to learn to shoot.
Then you shoot first and don't miss.
Not too crazy about the odds being in the intruder's favor.....i'll take the semi.
Alaina - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:07:58
quote:
Originally posted by jbanjoist
quote:
Originally posted by pandjlocke
I know it's difficult and I may not have a right to ask this, but can we please limit this thread only to discussion of our grief, anger, disappointment, etc? I think we owe the victims this respect. Any discussion, for or against gun control can be done in another thread. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Can't we agree? Please?
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get into it. My apologies ![]()
stanleytone - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:08:54
ill call a truce.....................its better than shooting
jbanjoist - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:10:57
Something that saddens me also is how I know deep in my heart people are capable of really good things, kindnesses and love that touch us deeply, yet individuals are still capable of such wanton destruction of our most innocent.
We can't understand it and won't even if a reason emerges.
The truth is this old world of ours is full of this kind of thing and worse. I sure wish it could be different but it isn't.
Dingoman25 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:34:38
So, so sad.
RIP little children; and sincerest condolences to all the families affected.
Christmas will never be the same for the 1000's of townsfolk of Newtown.
I cry for you.
jerseydevil - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:36:05
I have family members,friends and co-workers that have lost their homes from the hurricane.It's been real tough around here.But this is tearing me up.I just turned off the television because I just can't watch it anymore.The parents and all of the family members including grandparents,aunts and uncles will never recover from this.I lost a six year old nephew many years ago and I still feel it as does the rest of my family.I don't really know what can be done to prevent this sort of thing in the future.This has me extremely sad.
jason999 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 15:53:56
I was thinking about this on the way home a few minutes ago. I'll bet a lot of little kids were hugged and held by their parents after this happened.
quote:
Originally posted by vintagewells
Give your kids a hug and hold them close. Love them now and forever,
steve davis - Posted - 12/14/2012: 16:14:56
God be with them all.
A great need for buying security for the babies and staff of our schools.
jwoods - Posted - 12/14/2012: 16:17:47
God bless the first responders who went into that school to save those children...
pandjlocke - Posted - 12/14/2012: 16:20:14
quote:
Originally posted by jwoods
God bless the first responders who went into that school to save those children...
Amen. And may they get the counseling they may require after what they have been through.
stanleytone - Posted - 12/14/2012: 16:20:46
three places children should always feel safe...............home ,church, and school
picKen - Posted - 12/14/2012: 16:57:03
It's unimaginable, incomprehensible, and tragic. I can't believe what human beings are capable of doing to one another. I feel for the families involved. What, if anything, will ever really heal them? I know they will receive all the support possible from family, friends and their community, because that's what compassionate human beings do.
minstrelmike - Posted - 12/14/2012: 17:33:41
quote:
Originally posted by steve j.
why why why, how can someone do this?
Without getting into either politics or religion, all I can say is: No comment.
Mods?
Jim Yates - Posted - 12/14/2012: 17:48:01
quote:
Originally posted by pandjlocke
I know it's difficult and I may not have a right to ask this, but can we please limit this thread only to discussion of our grief, anger, disappointment, etc? I think we owe the victims this respect. Any discussion, for or against gun control can be done in another thread. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I think we owe the victims and their families the assurance that everything possible will be done to prevent this happening again.
pstroud1 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 17:50:30
Myprayers are with all he families involved here.
I remember seeing some one on the hangout mention, Sandy Hook.
I pray their families are ok. It may have been a different state I'm not sure.
Dear God help them all through these heart breaking times.
My heart goes out to them all.
Paul
plunka5 - Posted - 12/14/2012: 18:56:43
Oh how precious life is...in the midst of such tragedy, justification, blame, hate and ridicule are the winners. Those that were trying to get through another day in the struggle of human existence have been eternally silenced...we have become so complacent to such horrific crimes that we remain passive and accept such hollow explanations and empty solutions...we are truly sorry:(
vintagewells - Posted - 12/14/2012: 19:13:25
I believe that as the facts come out, this shooter was mentally ill. We still attach a stigma to mental illness, that is hard to overcome. We turn our backs, it is something we don't understand, and perhaps don't want to, even when it is a family member. We are in denial, and in doing so we isolate the individual and don't encourage them to seek the help they desparately need.
BanjoLink - Posted - 12/14/2012: 21:49:10
It is hard to comprehend what may be in the mind of someone who would do this. If there is something we can learn from it, maybe it will eventually come out. But in the meantime all we can do is pray for those families whose lives will never be the same. We should also pray that those that were not harmed physically will be able to somehow cope will all of the trauma and terror that they witnessed today.
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