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Ragtimejoe - Posted - 10/14/2012: 15:30:30
I was going through a box of old banjo parts from my last move (6 years ago) and found an interesting skin head:
Printed signature: Jos Rogers Jr Made In USA Superior Extra Warrented
Handwritten in pencil : 10 15/16 Vega tubaphone M # 81514 March 21-1931
The head appears to be in VG+ condition (bridge indentation marks only)
What is this head worth?
Thanks for any advice?
Joe
Edited by - Lynne on 10/14/2012 17:40:20
dculgan - Posted - 10/15/2012: 12:22:01
I don't like old hide banjo heads (talking like 50 - 100 years). I think they sound "dead". OK, so this is based on my experience with a sample of one, a Rogers head marked 1923 on a Little Wonder conversion. Others may hold them in greater esteem. Dave
banjered - Posted - 10/15/2012: 13:09:03
I have a 20's Roger's head on a banjorine and it is not as lively as I think it has the poential to be. It seems a little too thick besides being nearly 100 years old.
Do old heads go dead? (All right smart a_ _ for you - that's HIDE heads, NOT people heads!) Smile, Banjered
cbcarlisle - Posted - 10/15/2012: 15:50:29
Some people Brag about being dead heads - skin heads, too.
What's the value of an old typewriter ribbon?
tunemakers - Posted - 10/17/2012: 09:53:59
I just happen to own an old 11 15/16 sized Vega that has never had a skin head on it and yours would be worth at least the cost of shipping if you wanted to ship it out to me........I'm not a skin-head kind of guy, I live in the, very humid in the summer and dry as toast in the winter, northeast and the little experience I had with skin heads in my youth has done little to encourage me to try them again....but if you were going to throw it out.....Throw it in my direction
jbalch - Posted - 10/17/2012: 10:50:29
When it comes to skin heads, I think Rogers was the pinnacle. Their hides were carefully selected calf. They were sun-bleached and precision scraped by-hand. The top-grade Rogers heads were the Best available in their time and are un-matched now. There is interesting information about the company in this book (preview from Amazon.com : amazon.com/The-Rogers-Book-Rob...888408049)
Personally, I think that a high-grade Rogers head would have greatest value to a collector wanting to set-up a vintage banjo to original specs. I personally would avoid using one on an every-day player banjo. As a player, I'd rather have a new head - even though most hides available today are not the same caliber (although some are very good).
It would be worth a good bit more if your head was 11". That opens it to collectors of Pre-War Gibson and Bacon banjos. In GREAT condition an 11" high-grade Rogers head might be worth $70-100 or more (guess).
However, it being a Vega 11 15/16 size - limits the marketability. I think $40-60 would be max....
wbelm - Posted - 10/17/2012: 11:30:45
Thanks for the info John. You are inspiring me to consider the best head for each of my banjos.
Old Cremona - Posted - 10/18/2012: 19:36:26
We still never determined if old banjo heads go dead, tone-wise.
jbalch - Posted - 10/19/2012: 18:23:03
quote:
Originally posted by Old Cremona
We still never determined if old banjo heads go dead, tone-wise.
Don't know about that. I once had an 1880s H.C. Dobson with a head that looked as old as the banjo. I though it looked amazing and sounded fine. I played it that was as long as it was mine.
A good hide can last a long time....
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Newl Post - Posted - 10/20/2012: 05:50:22
I love the sound of a skin head and have them on several banjos. But I live where temperature and humidity changes are pretty serious from season to season. So here's my 2 cents worth on their worth and whether they go dead: I haven't tried a vintage skin head, though I'm sure some will be in great shape. I found that around my town people have a pretty consistent price for mounting a new skin - $70-$80. So I started mounting my own (I've only done 4). I've noticed that a very good quality head that sounded great one day can sound awful the next when the humidity is rapidly changing in either direction. Could that be the source of the idea of a skin head going dead? I've also bought many repair projects, some where the head was so deteriorated it was shedding dust and getting thin where the shedding was going on. Could a head like that have a more dead sound than one that is more structurally sound? I haven't tried to find out. But as far as worth - I'd be willing to pay that $70-$80 for a vintage skin (equal to what mounting a new head would cost), if the vintage head was in VG to VG+ condition. I'd just need to have the skin in hand to examine it closely first.
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