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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Why I hate logos on banjo heads


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jbalch - Posted - 12/22/2011:  17:10:57



I like this logo on on a 1927 B&D tenor I recently owned:





 



Edited by - jbalch on 12/22/2011 17:12:46

pastorharry - Posted - 12/22/2011:  17:32:19


I dare say no one would think of removing a Jos Rogers logo.

jbalch - Posted - 12/22/2011:  17:42:34



quote:


Originally posted by pastorharry




I dare say no one would think of removing a Jos Rogers logo.






 Right!  And look around on the "pre EPA" threads.  Folks are paying $100 or more for used REMO heads based on their having the correct old-style logos. 



We are a vain bunch.....



 


lazlototh - Posted - 12/22/2011:  19:21:40


We are a vain bunch.
There are a lot of odd things that we do when it comes to banjos.

I will remove logos. I remove labels from the back of my car or truck whenever I buy one that has a label.

We manufacture solar tanks and put labels on them, but the label tells you to stay off the tank and gives you a number to
call if you have a question!
I won't be upset if you remove the label.

But that's not a banjo.
Oh the vanity...

BTW, Merry Christmas!

Tom in Maine

Paul R - Posted - 12/22/2011:  20:24:46



I don't fret over banjo head logos, although I think they mess with the aesthetics of the banjo. I don't remove the logo, but I will put it under the tailpiece or the Suzuki tuners to hide or obscure it. I will definitely not wear labelled clothing, as I don't feel like paying the designer for the item and then giving him advertising into the bargain. If he gives it to me for nothing (or pays me), that's another story. As an aside, it seems that lately, we're doing the work for the corporations. Now we're doing the check out at the grocery store, doing the work of bank tellers and shopkeepers, while the companies benefit by hiring fewer employees. Lynne Truss has a good take on the in her book, Talk to the Hand.


bohemian - Posted - 12/22/2011:  22:17:08


I, too, detest banjo head logos, about as much as I dislike banjo peghead ( or guitar) script or logos.

Do I sign my name on my work.. even on my paintings.. small and on the back...

Viper - Posted - 12/23/2011:  08:24:49



As John Balch and Dan Knowles have done, I've been toying with the idea of creating a family logo stamp to mark my banjo head. I have a skin head on mine, so I don't worry about a manufacturer's logo. As Max said, it's a matter of aesthetics for me in choosing skin heads over synthetics. 



Edited by - Viper on 12/23/2011 08:25:15

J-Walk - Posted - 12/23/2011:  12:11:32



Yesterday I spent about 20 minutes trying to remove the logo from a Fiberskin head. In the past, I've had good luck using nail polish remover, but this one was impossible. I gave up when I started rubbing through the top of the head. It's still visible, but after applying a very light coat of wood stain to the head, the logo is better hidden -- especially from a distance.




KE - Posted - 12/23/2011:  12:34:34


Next you need to sand that crescent off the Moon bridge.

banjopogo - Posted - 12/23/2011:  23:47:48



quote:


Originally posted by OK-4




I don't mind the logo so much if it is right in front (or beneath) the tailpiece. It bothers me a little but still not so much if it is in front of the neck (under the strings). But I have no use at all for the off-center look that pops up sometimes, with the logo randomly set at the 4 o'clock or some other such position. Is this a purposeful "look"? There is no accounting for taste, but this just bugs me.






Well, you COULD set it off center so your THUMB could either obliterate the logo, or cover it with grunge!!!enlightenedwink


Hoss - Posted - 12/24/2011:  03:41:59



If I had one of their heads on my banjo and the folks at REMO could hear me play I'm thinking they might pay me to remove the logowink.



Edited by - Hoss on 12/24/2011 03:44:22

rudy - Posted - 12/24/2011:  04:11:58



quote:


Originally posted by KE



Next you need to sand that crescent off the Moon bridge.





 Although it might be obvious from the Moon bridge shape what the proper orientation is, that's not so much the case with some bridges.  The logo at least serves a useful function for quickly determining proper bridge orientation for some bridge designs.  The Remo logo serves no such purpose and as such, but I guess it could be used as an indicator for where to place your thumb.smiley


UNYBP - Posted - 12/24/2011:  06:41:05


Who would have thunk that such a simple topic could have made me think so hard about why people do the things they do and why I myself think the way I do. I could either thank you all for it or I could curse you all for making me use my brain so hard so early in the day! In any case have a Happy Holiday season and play your banjo frequently.

Mitch

Tinfoot - Posted - 12/24/2011:  06:43:08



Well, I just now came across this at support.remo.com/remoinc/topic...o_removal with an official reply from Remo...



Looks like Goo Gone may be the way to go, J-Walk.


rudy - Posted - 12/24/2011:  08:02:20



Tinfoot,  J Walk posted that link on page 2 of this thread, and it relates to this topic in the builder's forum that I also posted earlier on page 1:



banjohangout.org/topic/221884/1



I'm the one who submitted the question to Remo, and although I received what appears to be a definitive answer, I've yet to hear someone who has used Goo Gone to dump a logo, so I still have my suspicions.  The Remo rep was just relaying something he had heard, so the jury may still indeed be out before Goo Gone becomes the accepted standard substance for logo removal.



Mitch, I totally agree about the surprise of how controversial such a "simple" topic could become.  I love hearing the dissenting arguments, though.



I recently saw a post where there was a picture of a newly-completed mountain banjo with a smaller head, around 8" as I remember.  The Remo logo occupied about 1/4 of the head surface and looked very odd IMHO when the style of banjo is taken into consideration.  I wish I could remember the author so I could get his own opinion; he might have thought of it as adding an air of spiffiness to an otherwise Spartan look.


boondocker53 - Posted - 12/24/2011:  13:23:06



quote:


Originally posted by oldwoodchuckb




Take the logo off the head and people will tell you it is an Elton banjo - after reading the tailpiece.






That reminds me of the time I looked at an old openback banjo at a local luthier's shop. It was dowel stick construction (broken and glued back together), calf skin head, broken strings, aluminum pot. I asked the owner of the shop if he knew anything about it. He said it was made around the Civil War, maybe a little later but definitely before 1900,,



He said it was a Star brand, as plainly indicated by the star inlay in the head stock.



Said I could have it for $500.00.



I passed on the deal. I was new to banjos, but with the luthier's reputation concerning used instruments, I knew that neither of us had any idea what he had.


J-Walk - Posted - 12/24/2011:  13:40:29



And here's a vintage "No-Knot Banjo" that was for sale:



hydroponicsonline.com/store/Vi...3269.html



I'm surprised that they didn't mention that it's from 1901.


whyteman - Posted - 12/24/2011:  14:41:56


I agree with J-Walk's premis, but then again, I also read Adbusters.

Don

Tinfoot - Posted - 12/24/2011:  14:42:35



quote:


Originally posted by rudy




Tinfoot,  J Walk posted that link on page 2 of this thread, and it relates to this topic in the builder's forum that I also posted earlier on page 1:



banjohangout.org/topic/221884/1








Oh, lol - I had read the thread when it was still 1 page - and never re-visited it again.   And frankly, I was going to post a clip from the official rep's reply as I had a very distinct impression he was "fluffing the response" as it's known in CSR lingo.  But figure why bother... but I see you had gathered a similar impression as well ("what appears to be a definitive answer").  ;)



Edited by - Tinfoot on 12/24/2011 14:45:03

rudy - Posted - 12/24/2011:  15:32:12



quote:


Originally posted by Tinfoot



quote:


Originally posted by rudy



Tinfoot,  J Walk posted that link on page 2 of this thread, and it relates to this topic in the builder's forum that I also posted earlier on page 1:


banjohangout.org/topic/221884/1






Oh, lol - I had read the thread when it was still 1 page - and never re-visited it again.   And frankly, I was going to post a clip from the official rep's reply as I had a very distinct impression he was "fluffing the response" as it's known in CSR lingo.  But figure why bother... but I see you had gathered a similar impression as well ("what appears to be a definitive answer").  ;)






 Yup, You definitely caught my drift.  I'm tempted to grab some Goo Gone just to see if I've been totally fluffed.  Remo reps and sales are very responsive, though. I custom ordered a batch of heads from them and they were very helpful.


R.D. Lunceford - Posted - 12/24/2011:  19:33:27



Check out Smakula Fretted Instruments:



smakula.com/BanjoHeads.html



He has a massive assortment of sizes. and about 3/4 of the way down the page



this note:



Most of our Remo banjo heads are manufactured with no logo! The perfect look for your old old time banjo.



Edited by - R.D. Lunceford on 12/24/2011 19:35:17

cb56 - Posted - 12/24/2011:  19:48:43



I'm thinking about getting the Remo logo tattooed on my head. Come to think of it, the older I get the more advertising space I could sell on my head, becoming more cool, hip and non conformist along the way.



No wait, really. Is this worth worrying about?



Edited by - cb56 on 12/24/2011 19:50:02

rudy - Posted - 12/25/2011:  05:18:59



quote:


Originally posted by cb56



I'm thinking about getting the Remo logo tattooed on my head. Come to think of it, the older I get the more advertising space I could sell on my head, becoming more cool, hip and non conformist along the way.


No wait, really. Is this worth worrying about?






 cb56,



If you do decide to get the Remo tattoo you should put it on a butt cheek.  That way you can say you have the Remo logo, but you hid it under the tailpiece.smiley


u k sandra - Posted - 12/27/2011:  15:02:13


Mary, If I could play it like you do, I wouldn`t care what logo it had. It could have God Save The Queen in big letters across the front and I would care not a jot. ( Love your new CD ).

J-Walk - Posted - 12/27/2011:  17:43:51



For the record... All of the logos I've seen posted here are fine with me.



I guess I just hate REMO logos.


Tinfoot - Posted - 12/27/2011:  19:38:29


Remo logos are rather... mundane... in the great scheme of things, J-Walk, so I can certainly empathise.

banjopogo - Posted - 12/27/2011:  21:56:52


I think it depends on the banjo, and how you think of that banjo.

If the banjo is a work of art, yeah, I can see how the logo on the head could detract from the effect.

But if your banjo is a mass-produced TOOL (like my Hohner) for making music, there is really nothing for the logo on the head to detract FROM.

maryzcox - Posted - 12/28/2011:  06:47:22


quote:
Originally posted by u k sandra

Mary, If I could play it like you do, I wouldn`t care what logo it had. It could have God Save The Queen in big letters across the front and I would care not a jot. ( Love your new CD ).





Thanks Sandi :)

charlied - Posted - 12/29/2011:  14:32:46



I hate going through the trauma of taking one apart, not really knowing if I can get it all back together again sounding like it was, get it all put together real quick before I forget where all the parts go only to find the Remo label is crookit.  


rudy - Posted - 12/30/2011:  12:22:48



OK, Here's a different viewpoint.  You can be so proud of the logo that you intentionally turn it so it is NOT covered by the tailpiece.  This banjo is featured predominantly in the Monkees "What Am I Doing Hanging Round?" video.  THAT, ladies and gentleman, is entertainment!



Wonder what that rather unusual mounting for a P-90 pickup did for the acoustic tone?





Edited by - rudy on 12/30/2011 12:24:41

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