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rudykizuty - Posted - 11/14/2009:  14:06:48


Me too!!! In each color!!!

Robert, nice job man!!

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Edited by - rudykizuty on 11/14/2009 14:08:47

omiimii - Posted - 11/14/2009:  14:07:28


quote:
Originally posted by RaYhOLio

Great work Robert!

I sorta liked how last years was less 'folksey' I think it appealed to just about everyone.. my 2 cents...



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personally, i feel the opposite. i think the folkier the better. regardless of whether you play bluegrass or old time, the banjo is a folk instrument and it seems like that would appeal to everyone.

Banjo-Fisher - Posted - 11/14/2009:  22:37:48


Robertsart's design gets my vote as well! Nice job.... Here's something I came up with today.





Koala_in_pjs - Posted - 11/15/2009:  00:08:05


Great Idea Banjo-Fisher

I personally would like to see the green of the traffic signal to a lighter shade of green as it blends into the black a bit too much for my eyes to notice it clearly.


Kip

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switzforge - Posted - 11/15/2009:  06:01:41


quote:
Originally posted by robertsart









This one is my favorite as well.

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Brian Taylor - Posted - 11/15/2009:  07:23:02


Howzabout Banjo's collage work (except larger) on the front of an ash grey long sleeve t-shirt with the BHO logo on the back?

On the other hand, the feather rufflin' evolution idea works real well too; say on a light maroon or sage t-shirt with the BHO logo on the back.

I'll take 10 of each


BT

robertsart - Posted - 11/15/2009:  08:15:25


Thanks everyone, for your nice comments!! I really appreciate it.

It's great seeing all of the different design ideas and I look forward to seeing even MORE!!!!




Scott Roberts
www.oldgroove.com








Edited by - robertsart on 11/15/2009 10:13:58

littlepicker - Posted - 11/15/2009:  14:33:59


I vote for robertsart's design too, but I think the shirt should be grey.

Patrick

Thurber Mingus - Posted - 11/15/2009:  15:14:28


one more vote for Robertsart!

JackJack - Posted - 11/15/2009:  17:36:00


Okay. If I'm not to late, here's my contributions based on the Art Nouveau and Art Deco art movements. The colors are picked up from the BHO website, and yes, there is even a Squared Eel silouette in a couple of the designs.

Hope you like!












All the colors of shirts can change. I was looking for a dark sage color but couldn't find what I had in mind.

And, I know, I know. The date in the first designs should be 2010 (doh!).



robertsart - Posted - 11/15/2009:  17:43:50


Man!!!

JackJack's been busy!

Nice work! I really like your colors on the first design... and the Squared Eel is a nice touch!

I KNOW you put a lot of work into these and they look great!





EDIT: Eric said the deadline is Nov. 20 so that gives us all 5 more days. Let's give him lots of stuff to pick from!!!!


Scott Roberts
www.oldgroove.com








Edited by - robertsart on 11/15/2009 17:56:41

JackJack - Posted - 11/15/2009:  18:09:04


quote:
Originally posted by robertsart

Man!!!

JackJack's been busy!

Nice work! I really like your colors on the first design... and the Squared Eel is a nice touch!

I KNOW you put a lot of work into these and they look great!





Scott Roberts
www.oldgroove.com




Thanks Scott! Much appreciated. Your design is awesome itself, and I see it's got a bunch of votes already! Looks like the me and all the other contributors got stiff competition.

I had a lot of fun actually. It's not often I get to do graphics for something I am really into, that I got so carried away with doodling I have even more ideas in the computer on the drawing board!

It's great to see a bunch of different and neat ideas coming from everybody that has participated. I like to see what people illustrate when they think of the BHO. Good job to all!



Jaminbanjo - Posted - 11/15/2009:  18:17:38


I vote for JackJack's "2B." That's an awesome design.

Austin

BanjoDiva - Posted - 11/15/2009:  18:58:12


Love them all JackJack! And the color of the shirt in 2b is gender friendly! (hint hint Eric. :-P)

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KE - Posted - 11/15/2009:  19:17:25





But seriously, several have posted some really good graphic designs.

JackJack - Posted - 11/15/2009:  19:34:02


quote:
Originally posted by KE




But seriously, several have posted some really good graphic designs.



WINNER!!!





Banjo-Fisher - Posted - 11/15/2009:  21:53:20


Wow! Jack's 1C is amazing... I was going do another design, but I'm bowing out. I think it's between Jack and Robertsart.... Nice job you guys!

My last design idea was to do the earth as the pot/head of the banjo and stars lining up to make a constellation of the neck. If people think it's worth it I'll go ahead and do it, but I think it's really a matter of either Jack's or Robert's design.

un5trung - Posted - 11/16/2009:  07:20:26


That JackJack is one talented designer! I like the smoke/denim collection. Everyone here is so talented, I feel like I'm back at Oxford, the black sheep crouching in the corner while talented musicians and artists whiz about doing, umm, talented stuff!
;-)

Just breathe.

beegee - Posted - 11/16/2009:  10:22:58




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Edited by - beegee on 11/16/2009 10:32:53

DavidT - Posted - 11/16/2009:  15:06:20


Split Vote of Robertsart and Jackjack #2 They are Both Winners!! How about two winners this year? WOW Great artwork..

One Question to all you artists, What software are you using?

JackJack - Posted - 11/16/2009:  16:01:20


Thanks for the complements ya'll!

quote:
Originally posted by DavidT
One Question to all you artists, What software are you using?



David, I used Adobe Illustrator for those designs. Corel Draw and Fireworks are similar programs to Illustrator, being vector based art tools (as opposed to PhotoShop being a bitmapped based art tool), so if you have either of those software programs, you have basically the same software as Illustrator, just with different features. (I think I'm correct, I haven't used Fireworks or Corel in many, many years).



kcjc69 - Posted - 11/16/2009:  16:51:15


Pretty talented group of folks on this site. Not only a great bunch of players but good with the art work too. There's something I like about all of them but if I had to pick right now it'd be JackJack's 2B.

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robertsart - Posted - 11/16/2009:  17:37:47


quote:
Originally posted by DavidT

One Question to all you artists, What software are you using?




Adobe Illustrator & Photoshop.





Scott Roberts
www.oldgroove.com







Banjak - Posted - 11/17/2009:  04:51:43


So far I like JackJack's 2B the best. But I would like any of the design's of robertsart too. You guy's are good!

I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.

robertsart - Posted - 11/18/2009:  07:48:10


A variation on the first one I did... This image would work on any (mid tone) color... I stuck it on gray just for the sake of being neutral...

All right, I'm done!





Scott Roberts
www.oldgroove.com








Edited by - robertsart on 11/18/2009 07:49:40

omiimii - Posted - 11/18/2009:  09:19:35


okay, so much as changed in this and i wanna update my vote.
this will probably be my first year joining the union, so this is
an important matter to me!

my voting would be:
#1 robertsart's new version of his shirt
#2 the original version of the same shirt
#3 jackjack's 1c

you guys both did really amazing jobs. i was going to try to hand
draw one but after seeing these, i gave up.

i'm wondering if it is just a product of whatever program you guys
are using on the shirts but all the designs look like they could be
lowered down the shirt a bit. they seem to close to the neck line.

also, i would like to state for one final time, that a nice classic colored
t-shirt would look good. my vote is for a gray or white shirt with black
ink or a black shirt with white ink.

JackJack - Posted - 11/18/2009:  16:47:10





robertsart - Posted - 11/18/2009:  18:35:17


quote:
Originally posted by omiimii

i'm wondering if it is just a product of whatever program you guys
are using on the shirts but all the designs look like they could be
lowered down the shirt a bit. they seem to close to the neck line.





Yeah, showing a design mocked up on a flat shirt image doesn't really look right, but if you take a look at the printed t-shirts you have in your closet, you'll find that in most cases the design is quite high. There are a couple of reasons for this... Some folks tuck in their shirt so that means (as far as these mock ups are concerned) that you should visually chop off the bottom 1/4 to 1/3 of the shirt. Also, you want to have the image appear on the chest, not the belly, unless it's a large design, in which case you might cover both...

The bottom line is that t-shirts look better (in my opinion) if the image is higher (chest), then if lower (belly). It's sort of the same principle as when you frame a photograph or drawing. You make the bottom dimension of the mat slightly deeper than the other 3 dimensions... it visually appears more balanced and correct.

All this being said, like with anything there are personal preferences. The image below might give you a better idea of how the image might appear on a shirt being worn...

EDIT: I can't speak for JackJack, but based on his fine mock ups, I'd say we probably think alike in terms of placement...



Edited by - robertsart on 11/18/2009 18:44:06

schlange - Posted - 11/18/2009:  20:22:10


JackJack--is that good ol' "Bleeding Cowboys"? I like that font. :-)

JackJack - Posted - 11/18/2009:  20:46:37


Good eye, Eric. Good eye.

dmiller - Posted - 11/18/2009:  23:18:08





This one gets my vote hands down.

Both the word BANJO and a banjo itself are both prominently displayed. They catch the eye immediately.
The colors (colours for those of you in other countries), work very well together too.

Robertsart - - - no offense meant (I can't do design worth beans), but I'm thinking your emphasis in your design for this year puts more focus on the person carrying the banjo, rather than the banjo itself. And I'm not sure that is a good thing, when it comes to a Hangout Union Member shirt.



The focus of attention in your current design (imo) is more towards the guy nonchalantly carrying the banjo over his shoulder, and it seems (to me) to be more "stereotypical" of how folks look at banjo pickers. Nother words - - - It looks to me like the banjo is more of a "casual" instrument that can be treated with disdain and indifference. Sorry - - - that's just me, and my opinion.

For what it's worth, I'm not a "bumper sticker" kinda guy, when it comes to my car, BUT - - - - - > > >
I have one bumper sticker, and one only on my car - - - dead center where all can see it.
It's the bumper sticker of your design for 2009. I'm proud to display it!!

Anyway - - - that's my 2 cents about this here.

Koala_in_pjs - Posted - 11/19/2009:  04:07:07


JackJack I think your design 3 looks great.

Except when I showed a work colleage who is not a banjo player he asked 'Why are there a heap of frying pans, or are they spoons? at the end of the word banjo.

Kip

beegee - Posted - 11/19/2009:  07:06:39


quote:
Originally posted by schlange

Since it's a screen printed shirt, the few colors the better. I've never done a shirt with more than 3 colors on it. I don't know what color shirt the design will be printed on, so that's open as well.

_eric
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I wonder if anybody else read this guideline? One thing about a logo is that it should be simple, easily recognizable from a long distance and distinctive and memorable

Banjo - Posted - 11/19/2009:  09:31:13


JackJack and Robertsart both have great designs.

If only one can make the finals for the Banjo Union shirt the runner up should get their design printed up for sale here as well.

I'm sure both designers will be successful.

Let the people decide through the sale of the shirt itself.




WHOOPS, needs to be 2010

schlange - Posted - 11/19/2009:  09:58:55


One day left to submit designs! Tomorrow is the last day.

I think what I'll do after tomorrow is set up a "poll" so people can vote for which design they want best, out of my favorite 2-4 designs. Great work so far, everyone.

un5trung - Posted - 11/19/2009:  10:56:39


I have no idea how I'd vote, given the quality of all the designs . . . much different than voting for the Governor of New Jersey, where I just held my nose and voted for the lesser of two evils . . .

wildboar - Posted - 11/19/2009:  11:02:19


I think the designs are getting too intricate... they look nice, but for a t-shirt I prefer something more basic (less fancy/frilly). In the case of the roberstart design, I much prefer the original. jackjack, I like the layout/concept of yours, but would prefer a more basic font and less details crammed in everywhere.

Good work has been submitted by several people so far... I'm just thinking about which would work best on a shirt.

omiimii - Posted - 11/19/2009:  11:32:04


quote:
Originally posted by dmiller




This one gets my vote hands down.

Both the word BANJO and a banjo itself are both prominently displayed. They catch the eye immediately.
The colors (colours for those of you in other countries), work very well together too.

Robertsart - - - no offense meant (I can't do design worth beans), but I'm thinking your emphasis in your design for this year puts more focus on the person carrying the banjo, rather than the banjo itself. And I'm not sure that is a good thing, when it comes to a Hangout Union Member shirt.



The focus of attention in your current design (imo) is more towards the guy nonchalantly carrying the banjo over his shoulder, and it seems (to me) to be more "stereotypical" of how folks look at banjo pickers. Nother words - - - It looks to me like the banjo is more of a "casual" instrument that can be treated with disdain and indifference. Sorry - - - that's just me, and my opinion.

For what it's worth, I'm not a "bumper sticker" kinda guy, when it comes to my car, BUT - - - - - > > >
I have one bumper sticker, and one only on my car - - - dead center where all can see it.
It's the bumper sticker of your design for 2009. I'm proud to display it!!

Anyway - - - that's my 2 cents about this here.



hmmm...that's an interesting and obviously well thought out opinion. however, i do disagree.
i really, really like this design and think it find a nice balance between simplicity and beauty.
i don't quite see what the issue is with the image focusing on the banjo player as well as the
banjo. we are all banjo players and what good is a banjo without someone to play it (although i must
admit that i disagree with myself here because i sure do like to look at banjos even when someone
isn't playing them).

p.s. to eric. are we going to get to vote on colors too? i know i have mentioned it a ton but is there
any chance that we might get a more basic shirt color to choose from this year, such as black, white or grey?


Edited by - omiimii on 11/19/2009 11:33:39

Jaminbanjo - Posted - 11/19/2009:  12:02:15


I change my vote to JackJack's Design 3 on black shirt.

wildboar - Posted - 11/19/2009:  12:56:28


As for the 'banjo' vs 'banjo player' focus, I hadn't even thought about that... but now I think I like the design that portrays and actual banjo player even more.


Edited by - wildboar on 11/19/2009 12:57:33

Banjo - Posted - 11/19/2009:  13:14:31


I could visualize Robertsart design with this option on the front.



Along with his first design on the back of the shirt.


Edited by - Banjo on 11/19/2009 13:20:45

fishnfule - Posted - 11/19/2009:  20:58:23


I've always wanted to learn to play the banjo and finally went out and got one last week. Found this site, which is great! and just joined a couple days ago. Saw the logo contest and thought I'd throw in my vision of a Banjo Hangout.

Banjo - Posted - 11/19/2009:  22:03:04


quote:
Originally posted by fishnfule

I've always wanted to learn to play the banjo and finally went out and got one last week. Found this site, which is great! and just joined a couple days ago. Saw the logo contest and thought I'd throw in my vision of a Banjo Hangout.



Well for a last minute newbie it's a pretty darn good submission.

janolov - Posted - 11/20/2009:  01:03:32


My idea is to just have a simple banjo with a world map on the head. I have no worked up graphic presentation, I just have made a very simple outline to illustrate what I mean. It needs a lot of refining before it can be used.



The idea is to demonstrate the international dimensions of the banjo. The banjo was brought to America from Africa. Primitive banjo-like instruments have been found in many cultures all over the word. The banjo today is played all over the world, and BanjoHangout is an international forum.

Jan-Olov

Banjo - Posted - 11/25/2009:  11:02:43


I think you're going to have a good challenge picking out a winner this year Eric.

KE - Posted - 11/25/2009:  11:57:02


Excellent recent submissions!

Welcome to the forum, fishnfule.

fishnfule - Posted - 11/25/2009:  17:38:41


Thank You. It's not quite done, but I wanted to get it in before the deadline so it was a little rushed, but Thanks again.

bluemule_77 - Posted - 11/25/2009:  22:02:14


Scott Roberts is the man! My only complaint is that, for me, t-shirt = undershirt. How about some long sleeved, button-down shirts?

BConk - Posted - 11/26/2009:  05:59:28





This one still has my vote

Mainechowder - Posted - 11/26/2009:  07:24:36


quote:
Originally posted by Banjo

I could visualize Robertsart design with this option on the front.



Along with his first design on the back of the shirt.





Although I am not a "Union" member, this shirt gets my vote. I love the "feel" of it. If this design wins I may have to breakdown and become a "Players Union" member.

JackJack's 2B design gets runner up. It was a tough decision between the two. Either way, I would be happy to wear either shirt.

As far as the other designs, Great job guys, they all look great. "A" for effort on everyones part.

Don

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