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Sep 20, 2026 - 10:47:02 AM
9 posts since 9/3/2026

For the grass community - What playing skill takes the longest to develop?

Sep 20, 2026 - 11:02:59 AM
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Owen

Canada

19796 posts since 6/5/2011

Well, I've been told that "figure it out" and "things come together"  will happen eventually.  Dunno just what the future holds, but I can attest that eventually is/can be w-a-y longer than 15 years.  wink

Sep 20, 2026 - 11:13:37 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

33222 posts since 8/3/2003

I think that would depend upon the person learning. Some learn quickly, some slower and some it takes a while for certain techniques to click and work for them.

Some of my students complained about the difficulty of getting good, clear, clean pull-offs, others had problems with chokes. Many of them had a problem keeping the time and the tempo where it was supposed to be for their expertise level. It just depended on the student.

Sep 20, 2026 - 11:50:33 AM
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170 posts since 6/30/2020

I’ve found the skill that has taken the longest to develop for me is the ability to improvise a break that has a clear melody in it.

In jams I’ve found it relatively easy to improvise licks over a chord structure, but it’s a lot harder to make the melody pop within the licks and rolls if I’ve never heard it or played it before.

Sep 20, 2026 - 12:19:20 PM

Nopix

USA

528 posts since 6/11/2025

For me it's the picks. I can sort of deal with them, but after 50 years, it's just easier not to. I don't have to prove anything.

Sep 20, 2026 - 3:05:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by ScruggsMcGee

For the grass community - What playing skill takes the longest to develop?


Taste!

Sep 20, 2026 - 3:24:02 PM
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17717 posts since 6/2/2008

Expressiveness.

As to technique and playing skill, in my personal case it's improvising with single-string. 54 years in, I'm nowhere close.

Sep 20, 2026 - 3:27:42 PM
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RB-1

Netherlands

4362 posts since 6/17/2003

quote:
Originally posted by ScruggsMcGee

For the grass community - What playing skill takes the longest to develop?


Skill? Skills! Do you have a minute? In no particular order:

Playing in time. Playing with precision. Being able to play any string with any finger at any time.  Being able to play a melody note, standing out (just a bit louder and maybe a hair before the time). Playing back up while singing. Listening while playing, so you know what your band mates are doing, making playing together possible.

This all will take time. Enjoy the ride!

Sep 20, 2026 - 4:00:09 PM
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144 posts since 6/18/2017

Uh….patience….and the ability to not say what you think…..

Sep 20, 2026 - 5:05:37 PM
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Nopix

USA

528 posts since 6/11/2025

I like to paraphrase Sheriff Wiggins, from the Simpsons:
"Learning the banjo is no picnic, y'know. It's one solid weekend of hard work."

Sep 21, 2026 - 3:21:25 AM
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banjoy

USA

12051 posts since 7/1/2006

For me, I could get the technical stuff and reading tablature down pretty quickly when I started at age 17. But all these tunes were new to me, I had never heard most of them before and this was before the internet days. So what took the longest to come to me was being able to hear the melody line pop out of all those rolls. Once that started happening, for me, everything else got a lot easier.

Sep 21, 2026 - 5:12:58 AM
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774 posts since 4/14/2014

Honestly, practicing is a skill in-and-of itself. How structured is your practice? How slowly are you doing it? Are you making real effort to slowly incorporate new skills/ideas?

Ironically, learning to slow down, REALLY slow down when I practice accelerated my playing so much that more than a couple of people around me commented on it.

I don't know why it took me so long to take the advice.

Sep 21, 2026 - 5:43:30 AM

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Thats a pretty wide area to cover.
If youre talking basics then id say learning the various major and minor chord shapes and being able to smoothly switch from one to the other at various locations on the fretboard.
Beginners tend to just want to learn roll patterns at the expense of vamping and rolling thru chord shapes.

Sep 21, 2026 - 5:49:43 AM
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82456 posts since 5/9/2007

Hearing the chord and key changes in the moment.

Sep 21, 2026 - 7:12:48 AM
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cevant

USA

529 posts since 2/5/2020

When to shut up. You don’t always have to be the biggest noise in the room.

Sep 21, 2026 - 9:11:57 AM
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Dean T

USA

4314 posts since 4/18/2024

At almost 66, after a career in mechanics, my tired old hands are really slowing down. I was diagnosed with onset osteo arthritis in my hands and knees 19 years ago already. So unequivocally, the skill that’s taking the longest to develop by far, is the ability to keep what I have, and minimize the decline. Some days, playing feels like running in a dream. Very frustrating. BUT… it’s not all bad, as it’s forced me to simplify stuff, and play less/easier back up… which is also a good skill to keep developing, weather I want to or not.

Sep 21, 2026 - 6:33:24 PM
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3393 posts since 10/10/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Dean T

At almost 66, after a career in mechanics, my tired old hands are really slowing down. I was diagnosed with onset osteo arthritis in my hands and knees 19 years ago already. So unequivocally, the skill that’s taking the longest to develop by far, is the ability to keep what I have, and minimize the decline. Some days, playing feels like running in a dream. Very frustrating. BUT… it’s not all bad, as it’s forced me to simplify stuff, and play less/easier back up… which is also a good skill to keep developing, weather I want to or not.


Me to ... I'm 70 and my left wrist is gone. 
but !! I'm having a new procedure that is available ... lo dose radiation. It's basically a cancer therapy that has great success in arthritic joints and connective tissue. 
im hopeful but skeptical. 
I still play multiple gigs per week, but the after effects pain is tough. 
trying to keep the old man away.??

Sep 21, 2026 - 7:10:05 PM
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7101 posts since 3/6/2006

I think it depends. But there’s some skills that you develop when playing with a band that you absolutely can’t acquire any other way. I’m talking about the chemistry that develops when you play with the same people over and over for a long period of time. Could also be a jam if you meet with the same people often enough.

Sep 21, 2026 - 9:50:14 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ScruggsMcGee

For the grass community - What playing skill takes the longest to develop?


Some skills to consider.


Sep 22, 2026 - 5:06:51 AM

9 posts since 9/3/2026

What is Circle of Pain?

Sep 22, 2026 - 3:55:04 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ScruggsMcGee

What is Circle of Pain?


My own devious chart that exposed weakness when a student said they kenw all the Major & minor chords. It's purposely in a most ramdom order!


Edited by - mmuussiiccaall on 09/22/2026 15:56:43

Sep 22, 2026 - 3:58:34 PM

17717 posts since 6/2/2008

So with Rick's table we now have a list of every skill and area of musical knowledge it takes -- in varying degrees -- to become not just a good player but a good musician.

But I think we're nowhere closer to answering the original question: which skill takes the longest.

I think the answers are we don't know and it's different for everybody.

Most of us probably agree that recognizing and anticipating chords by ear and reading them from guitar playersa are necessary skills to be the type of player who can go to jams or fill in on gigs without necessarily having practiced/worked out versions of the repertoire. Most of us have seen posts from people who think that skill is one step removed from magic or mind reading and they can't see themselves ever getting there.

Sep 22, 2026 - 4:00:17 PM

17717 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall
My own devious chart that exposed weakness when a student said they kenw all the Major & minor chords. It's purposely in a most ramdom order!

Is "m" (for "minor") part of name for notes? Or triads?

Sep 22, 2026 - 4:58:35 PM

Nopix

USA

528 posts since 6/11/2025

Gotta throw in your diminished, augmented and suspended chords too.

Edited by - Nopix on 09/22/2026 17:00:19

Sep 22, 2026 - 7:49:26 PM

chuckv97

Canada

80286 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Nopix

Gotta throw in your diminished, augmented and suspended chords too.


I only use them every Dec. 25

Sep 23, 2026 - 4:10:24 AM

9 posts since 9/3/2026

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall
quote:
Originally posted by ScruggsMcGee

What is Circle of Pain?


My own devious chart that exposed weakness when a student said they kenw all the Major & minor chords. It's purposely in a most ramdom order!


So I passed the test? haha

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