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Aug 11, 2026 - 5:15:34 PM
30045 posts since 6/25/2005

A paper plate labled “Compostable—Except in CA” Some strange bureaucratic rule? I don’’t get it. I’m pretty sure CA means California, not Canada..

Aug 11, 2026 - 5:41:58 PM

donc

Canada

7802 posts since 2/9/2010

Does that mean that all the smog in L.A. is making it difficult for bacteria to survive ? Maybe it could mean 'Canada'. ?

Aug 11, 2026 - 5:53 PM

Owen

Canada

19614 posts since 6/5/2011

Do lower life-forms [whatever that means] adapt/evolve better than higher life forms [whatever that means]?

Aug 11, 2026 - 6:11:45 PM
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banjonz

New Zealand

12898 posts since 6/29/2003

This is America! Why should anything make sense?

Aug 11, 2026 - 8:16:02 PM

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I already knew from labels in general--everything gives a person cancer in california

Aug 12, 2026 - 6:50:23 AM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

14479 posts since 2/22/2007

According to grok: California standards for what is compostable are higher than the Federal standards and common industry practices, so that label is modified so their products can be sold in California with getting fines. The products are not required to be compostable but if they are labeled as such then they must meet these higher standards.

Aug 12, 2026 - 7:25:39 AM

9849 posts since 9/21/2007
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A little deeper.

California prop 65 has a "bounty hunter" provision that allows individuals to sue (extort) companies that might make a mistake and not properly label their products (according to California).

This is why buildings in CA have warnings about "cancer causing chemicals" by the front door.

IMO, such regulation is not exactly bad but prop 65 goes a bit far and the bounty hunter provision opens the door for bad actors.

So, the addendum to the "compostable" is to prevent prop 65 bounty hunters from causing the manufacturer financial problems.

That said, prop 65 (and similar) are expressly political so I am surprised that Bill Rogers would post about it.

Aug 12, 2026 - 10:16:55 AM

Buddur

USA

4436 posts since 10/23/2004

I bet it'll compost in CA...

...I say you try it and prove 'em wrong.

Aug 12, 2026 - 10:21:54 AM
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Owen

Canada

19614 posts since 6/5/2011

Politicians [and those they're beholden to] coming up with something inexplicable??  That's quite a stretch, don't you thinK?  wink

Edited by - Owen on 08/12/2026 10:34:07

Aug 12, 2026 - 10:59:05 AM

BobbyE

USA

3912 posts since 11/29/2007

Has anyone ever run some sort of reliable test to see if the people in California have a longer lifespan considering all the restrictions they have in place regarding health hazards?

Bobby

Aug 12, 2026 - 11:03:22 AM

9849 posts since 9/21/2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Politicians [and those they're beholden to] coming up with something inexplicable??  That's quite a stretch, don't you thinK?  wink


"Politicians" (and Jane Fonda) came up with it in 1985 and voters passed it.

Again, this is political.

Aug 12, 2026 - 11:09:50 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by BobbyE

Has anyone ever run some sort of reliable test to see if the people in California have a longer lifespan considering all the restrictions they have in place regarding health hazards?

Bobby


Aside from preventing people and companies from pouring or dumping chemicals that are on the list into water supplies (which is a good thing), prop 65 is not a "restriction".  It is transparancy.  If you are a company that produces or sells a product with any of the chemicals on the list you have to tell potential consumers that your product has those chemicals.  You can still make and sell the product, you just have to be transparant about what is in that product that could potentially be harmful.

Aug 12, 2026 - 12:29:49 PM

30045 posts since 6/25/2005

Bottom line: “Compostable” is not an objective standard.

Aug 13, 2026 - 7:27:11 AM

Buddur

USA

4436 posts since 10/23/2004

You'd be surprised what people compost....

Aug 14, 2026 - 10:55:23 AM
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RB3

USA

2823 posts since 4/12/2004

Below is a link to a Dixie brand paper plate available at Walmart. If you zoom in on the paper plate images on that Walmart webpage, you’ll see that it says, “BPI Compostable - compostable except in CA”. BPI refers to the Biodegradable Products Institute. BPI is an organization that certifies that products meet biodegradable standards. My chatbot advised me that BPI’s certification is based upon compliance with biodegradable standards, such as ASTM D6400 and ASTM D6868 that are maintained by the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM). Accordingly, in most States, that means that there is an objective standard for compostability.

It appears, however, that California has chosen not to recognize the BPI certification or the ASTM standards or both.

Dixie Paper Plate - Walmart

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