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Originally posted by Don BorcheltThat Earl invented three finger picking.
I think even he said lots of folks where he was from played that way. Whats the earliest known recording of 3 finger though
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Originally posted by BuddurWe drool from both sides of our mouth.
Only when in level spots tho....
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Originally posted by 86OmniGLHAre these replies "attempts" at humor?
Absolutely not. In fact in my reply, I am in fact the aforementioned bass player. (when i'm not playing banjer, pianer, fiddle or something else)
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Originally posted by 86OmniGLHAre these replies "attempts" at humor?
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Originally posted by steve davisI find the references to the blind people to be rather cold.
Stop sitting on the toilet when urinating. "Man-up!!"
Much like this kind of humor..'eh..
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Originally posted by pghmattquote:
Originally posted by Don BorcheltThat Earl invented three finger picking.
I think even he said lots of folks where he was from played that way. Whats the earliest known recording of 3 finger though
Define "recording" and "3 finger".
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Originally posted by BuddurWe drool from both sides of our mouth.
That’s only when the stage is level ![]()
ossman and van epps recorded a finger style in the late 1800s on cylinders and some disc.
as far as southern style 3 finger,, frank jenkins recorded baptist shout,, home sweet home,, and wandering boy in 1927. it has a lot of syncopation 3 finger style mixed with single string too. he may not be the first but it was early on. around the same time the carter family recorded their first stuff.
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Originally posted by Joel Hooksquote:
Originally posted by pghmattquote:
Originally posted by Don BorcheltThat Earl invented three finger picking.
I think even he said lots of folks where he was from played that way. Whats the earliest known recording of 3 finger though
Define "recording" and "3 finger".
Audio recording of any sort, and talking about recognizable "bluegrass 3 finger" I suppose. Not ragtime. I know alot of folks say Snuffy Jenkins. I feel like Frank Jenkins (no relation to my knowledge) could be considered just because it sounds close enough to be an influence to whomever then influenced Scruggs playing. This is not something I feel strongly about at all. More curiosity on what folks consider the first instance that is recorded. The original "banjo myth" I was asking about was that earl didnt event 3 finger, which I am pretty sure he said lots of folks from where he was from played that style. He mentioned plenty of people as influences. This feels like trying to determine who invented travis style picking (was it Arbold Schultz, was it Alice DeArmond Jones, someone else?)
Some other 1920's-vintage 3-finger recordings which point toward Scruggs from a direction different from Jenkins':
Walter Liggett (sp?) (of Humphrey Bates' Possum Hunters), and Wilmer Watts, both played (mostly open-position) chord backup using a straight-ahead index-lead roll.
Uncle Dave played 3-finger stuff that wasn't quite like anyone else's! The intro he picks to "Down the Old Plank Road" (c.1928?) is closer to the spirit of Scruggs style than anything else I can think of that early. Kirk McGee did some Uncle Dave-inspired fingerpicking, though I can't recall if he recorded any of that until later.
Charlie Poole's repertoire had a clear influence on bluegrass, but his banjo playing was much more his take on the ragtime era "classic" style, and later players who emulated his style IMO were trying to sound DIFFERENT from Scruggs! The Bucklebusters/Hill Billies' banjo(s), and overall band sound, had a lot more of the drive of bluegrass than did the NC Ramblers' more laid-back, pop-influenced approach.
Hey now, don't laugh... I think at some point John Lennon's banjo (a tenor banjo of some sort that he got from his mother?) did go up for sale at some point... Not terribly hard to believe. BUT what's interesting is exactly how much said instrument might fetch..... or whether the fact (?) that it had been owned by John Lennon actually affected the value OR the asking price. A LOT no doubt, even though it can be argued that it actually, in reality, did not offer or add 1 cents worth of value to the instrument.....
Its just such a silly thing. As you say, what does it add? Very little. But there have been all sorts of stories and claims, I recall one news article where a banjo that a young John Lennon was photographed holding, accompanied by I think Paul McCartney and some others, was up for sale. The story was he was borrowing it from a mate, said mate was now selling it.
Another interview about the Beatles and banjos I dimly recall Paul McCartney said the 5 string that was in a photo of them rehearsing somewhere in the mid/late 60's wasn't John's at all but his, and he can't remember what happened to it.
Its just, for me, like, we'll never know and it doesn't matter. They were not banjo innovators or virtuoso's. I'd rather see value added to, say, Billy Connolly's instruments, who could play and was known for it.
Rant over.
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Originally posted by 86OmniGLHAre these replies "attempts" at humor?
Yes, they certainly are! "Attempts" being the
key word there.
Proof.....once again.... that fact is stranger
than fiction!
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Originally posted by TuedelbandThis is an original Musima Remo Weather King Banjo, made in the U.S.
Good one.
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