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26 vs 25 tone rings

From gdoc on 7/19/2011 8:07:00 AM

This question is multiple  Tone-rings.

Other than the scalloping on the 25 and the non scalloped on the 26, (plus holes in the hoop on the 25), what is the difference between the two years.

As with the posting by Wes Lassiter of the 26 yesterday, I've seen it stated a few times before that the 26 will accept a drop in tone ring without modification.

What else is different between the 2 years?  What is different that the 25 won't accept the same tone ring?

Why would anyone want to change such a beautiful sounding banjo anyway?  (I know, personal taste).  It's just to me, the BB banjos sound so perfect as they are. 

8 Comments

gailg64 says:
7/19/2011 12:54:20 PM

They're great for old-time music but I'm told they lack volume and low end compared with flatheads.

gdoc says:
7/19/2011 3:09:21 PM

I've played one for 15 years, then switched to a Stelling, then to a Deering Deluxe, and now I'm back to the 26 Ball Bearing.

Granted it's not as loud as some like the Stelling, but then again why does it have to ? If I'm in a band, and on stage, there is the mic to boast the volumn. In a group situation, I'm louder than the mandolin and fiddle, and can come close in volumn to the guitar.

I think too many people get caught up in "you always have to scream to be heard". Dynamics! One of the last things a musican learns.

jimh269b says:
7/19/2011 3:48:05 PM

well my 25 granada head is all orginal,those little holes lets a lot of sound out,mine is as sweet as you ever heard i think,and just great to play,i will never change it,so may it be

Wes Lassiter says:
7/19/2011 3:49:42 PM

I have never experinced a banjo that sounds as good as my 26. Hands down it is amazing. A conversion ring would ruin the sweet tone this banjo has. I would put it up with any flat head including my 1933 style 2. Crazy good banjo

gdoc says:
7/19/2011 7:16:31 PM

Well the other part of the question remains, (thanks for the support guys, I was beginning to think only I thought the BB was loud enough).

Scalloped ring / non scallooped ring, obivous differrence, no big deal. Probably, in my mind, cut labor cost by not cutting the scallops.

Holes in the hoop, same thing, no biggie, again probably cut labor costs.

But what is different that they say a 26 would take a drop in ring where a 25 won't? I have both, and can't see a difference.

Fathand says:
9/7/2011 3:17:56 PM

Yes my 1925 is not quite as loud as a flathead ( my wife says it is too loud anyway) and has a little less bass response but I think it has more bass response than an archtop. If you play in C Tuning I think the Bass comes alive.

At one time I flipped the tone ring upside down for a larger area, I think I got a little more bass response that way. Anyone else try it?

gdoc says:
9/9/2011 4:44:46 PM

I flipped mine over a few times, but my ear wasn't good enough to really hear a big difference, and my mind not good enough to remember the little differences. To me, it basiclly sounded the same. However, now with a lot more years of listening under my belt, I may try it again. Back then I really didn't know what I was listening for.

Kurt Kemp says:
9/17/2011 4:03:47 AM

"Crazy good banjo" is good description. I have not played my flathead since putting this 26 together. I love it, can't put it down! Once you get past the "gotta have a flathead" stigma you just can't beat these things.


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