Posted a short roll in my music. The discussion about maxing out her metronome has me just rolling my eyes. The forward roll that was posted "sounds like a 3 legged horse falling down the stairs"
At least my horse has all 4 legs and it is falling down an escalator.
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 | mcaple says:
3/19/2013 4:18:40 PM
Excellent loukii but how do you keep a track if you're on the beat when playing at that speed. It just sounds so fast.
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 | loukiii says:
3/19/2013 4:49:28 PM
Practice. I had to work my way up gradually. It is still not real comfortable either. I try to subtly accentuate the beat and count 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a. Also the upbeat after 4 (the and) kind of springboards into the next measure.
Al calls that the Ricky Bobby exercise for building speed and smoothing out your roll.
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 | daytripper says:
3/19/2013 5:07:30 PM
I keep expecting it to drop into a D lick and finish the song :) . sounds good.
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| daytripper says:
3/19/2013 5:14:53 PM
I keep expecting it to drop into a D lick and finish the song :) . sounds good.
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 | G says:
3/19/2013 7:09:45 PM
Nice! I just started on that also. You're pretty even on the timing and note emphasis ... except as you pointed out, at the end, where you slowed, but that's a minor thing.
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 | MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 2:07:28 AM
I spent 6 years in high school band. I have to count it like this...
1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4-a-up-a. That's the way my band director taught us to count 16th notes and I never could convert over to the way Earl did it (1-e-and-a-2).
The main thing is 16 notes to 4 beats.
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 5:00:26 AM
Listening to Lou's sound file again I noticed he was playing 12 16th notes and 2 8th notes.
1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4--up--1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4--up--
The rolls don't HAVE to be all 16th notes.
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 5:14:43 AM
Listening to Lou's sound file again I noticed he was playing 12 16th notes and 2 8th notes.
1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4--up--1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4--up--
The rolls don't HAVE to be all 16th notes.
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 6:01:49 AM
I have no idea how the above got posted twice 14 minutes apart. I do wish we could go back and edit / delete posts.
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| loukiii says:
3/20/2013 7:49:25 AM
there are 16 notes. I'm just not getting equal emphasis on those notes because of the thumb drop to the 4th string of the 'up' in the 4th beat.
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| loukiii says:
3/20/2013 8:00:27 AM
the roll is 3 1 5 3 1 5 3 1 5 3 1 5 3 1 4 1
t m t i m t i m t i m t i m t m
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 9:27:54 AM
Yes. I hear it now. Al is constantly preaching at me to make that first string sound as loud as the others. I didn't hear it in the flurry of notes.
The 3 1 4 1 (3)
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| mcaple says:
3/20/2013 4:23:00 PM
Sorry guys but are you saying on a roll you count either using
1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a
or
1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4-a-up-a
as I am simply doing
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & .....
So taking "1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a" you pick on the "1", the "e", the "and" ...
or
"1-a-up-a-2-a-up-a-3-a-up-a-4-a-up-a" you pick on the "1", the "a", the "up" ...
Not sure the benefit of this but that's because I am new. I read someone talk about using "Cha-ta-noo-gah" as a count or method of driving the banjo but got a bit confused with that also. :(
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 5:40:49 PM
Cha-ta-noo-gah, one-a-up-a It's the same thing. 4 notes per one beat. 16 notes per 4 beats which is a measure. If you look at Al's tabs they are notes with a double bar or 16th notes.
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| loukiii says:
3/20/2013 6:19:20 PM
If you count 1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8& then you are correct.
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| mcaple says:
3/20/2013 6:21:25 PM
I guess I didn't realise the significance of the 16 and hence thought I only needed to count 4 beats. Thanks Mopick.
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| mcaple says:
3/20/2013 6:22:39 PM
Sorry and thanks loukii. Your message came in just after posting.
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| MoPac fan says:
3/20/2013 7:19:04 PM
I don't know how many lessons you've had, but Al will get to it. He'll have you counting rolls.
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| daytripper says:
3/21/2013 5:11:07 AM
That's where it all goes wrong.
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