Posted by schlange on Monday, June 28, 2010
This option helps protect your MP3 from being downloaded (and possibly distributed) by others. Checking this box removes the "Download" link and podcast listings for your MP3, while still allowing people to stream your MP3 from the jukebox player.
The feature was implemented at the request of professional artists who want to post tracks from their albums while still controlling the distribution of their music.
Monday, June 28, 2010 @3:43:11 PM
Nice option Eric. Glad to see these types of request getting attention. Thanks for all you do.
Monday, June 28, 2010 @6:34:59 PM
Are you serious?
Anyone who knows how can just record it in real time with minimal loss of quality. To make this effective, you should make the quality so low that nobody would actually want to listen to it.
Maybe some day artists will figure out how to market their product. This sort of fake-tech solution is not the answer.
Monday, June 28, 2010 @8:21:56 PM
Of course I'm serious. It's not like BHO is the first site to offer music in "streaming only" format to avoid having people download files.
Sure, it's not foolproof--but it's enough of a barrier to entry for 95% of folks, methinks. And if it results in some new, quality stuff being uploaded that wouldn't have been otherwise, I think that's a good thing.
Monday, June 28, 2010 @10:17:29 PM
I suppose it depends on whether you post noises (as I do) so that people can help me improve my playing, or music, which you deserve your rewards for (be they cash or kudos).
Personally, I understand musicians wanting some copyright protection, and I really think the more sensible option is that the two are kept seperate. Those who are happy for their picking to be downloaded should be able to, and those who don't won't.
I don't object to this, but I do agree with J-Walk: this is still a community, rather than a marketplace, isn't it?
Monday, June 28, 2010 @11:05:23 PM
Sure it's a community. But what do you do with the professional players who are part of our community? In my mind, this is a way for them to participate by posting top-notch recordings without fearing mass downloading and loss of income from doing so. I believe this allows our professionals to participate in a way that wasn't feasible before. And I think that's a good thing.
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @8:13:55 AM
"fearing mass downloading and loss of income" ???
Have you been reading that RIAA propaganda?
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @9:03:43 AM
J-Walk... no, I haven't been. Have you been drinking the "give you music away so you can get more fans" firewater? :-)
Marc Nerenberg Says:
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @9:19:32 AM
It's an excellent option. I'm hoping plenty of people who have music for sale will take advantage of it so we can hear their stuff here without stealing it.
I released an album in 1985 on cassette (the preferred format at that transitional moment between LPs and CDs). The Ontario Library Association bought copies for every library in Ontario. i was pretty pleased with that, until people kept telling me they had a copy. "Where's you buy it?" I would naively ask ... "Oh, I didn't buy it...I took it out of the library and copied it" was the discouraging reply. I haven't bothered to release anything commercially since.
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @10:00:09 AM
I take your point Eric, and it's a valid one. No harm in posting tasters though is there? And if you like this 30 second snippet... type of thing.
Like previous, I don't object in any way to this - more participation has to be a good thing, right?
And Marc, that's a very valid point and I sympathise with you. Not guilty!
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @11:23:04 AM
Yeah, 30-second "teaser" could be posted as well, but I'd much rather have a full-length song that I can't download than a 30-second teaser I don't want to download (because it's only 30 seconds long).
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @12:59:30 PM
It's a fair point well put.
It don't make no-never-mind to me! I'm just hoping one-day I'll need the 'Disable Download' button! lol!
Laurence Diehl Says:
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @3:32:44 PM
Nice feature Eric. Personally, I would be tickled to death to think that somebody wanted to download my stuff - even originals - and if they happened to make money off it, nobody would be more shocked than I would! But for guys that are seriously trying to market some merch - this would be a very useful tool
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 @5:45:27 PM
Its a choise , I cant fault having another option.......Steve
Thursday, July 1, 2010 @5:29:22 AM
I would never use it, but understand the need for it. i download to my Mp3 for my own enjoyment and education. I can undersand professionals needing this option. I would like to suggest that those who do have CD's make a note of it on their sound postings so that we know it is available.
I know that there is objection to it, but having been a Teddy Bear artist and supporting the family with it, only to have the market destroyed by cheap Chinese rip offs, the protection isnecessary.
Laurence, I think I have ALL of your music on my mp3, same with Elwood. But I would never dream of trying to make money on it. It gives me great joy to listen to banjo music whenever I want. I even listen to my own stuff!
Thursday, July 1, 2010 @5:43:12 AM
As a "pro" I have always felt that when I post something on the hangout it is a given that folks might (will) download it. It is not a big concern for me. Usually only a few parts of the commercial recording (I have 8 plus a couple of others that I play heavily on) or a tune posted as example of something (and not on a commercial recording) and of lower quality than the commercial version would be. In most cases I think folks want more and better so it leads them to my site or cd baby to get the "real deal"
So, while this may help some folks it won't really change what I do. Better to have it though for those it helps. More tools, use a we like.
Just Bill Says:
Saturday, July 3, 2010 @7:30:43 AM
It's always nice to have options. Thanks, Eric!
Saturday, July 3, 2010 @3:57:50 PM
Thanks for letting us continue to download your BHO sound posts, Dan. BTW, I can't think of a single pro who's posted tunes here that I've downloaded, and then HAVEN'T gone and purchased their music. I might not though, if I can't download them to listen repeatedly on my iPod and computer. It's simply a matter of out of sight (or sound), out of mind. So, while this might be an attractive option for pros, I'm not so sure it would be a wise option to use.
Saturday, July 3, 2010 @7:26:34 PM
Before I wanted to download an MP3, it would have to be better audio quality than most of postings here. The 'option' would not stop me, nor anyone else I know. It is just to easy to record it as it plays.
Sunday, July 4, 2010 @1:10:04 PM
Good feature, Eric. Keep it up.
Monday, July 5, 2010 @12:07:22 AM
I think the concept is a great one and everyone will have their own thoughts on the subject but my believes state your are in the right. If someone wants to go through the lengths in order to record the audio and keep it then they can do so, yes it possible but when someone is trying to claim rights to the song you will not be held in the middle. For all those that do know how to play better than I, everyone else, I appreciate all the songs, roles and everything you upload on this site in order to help me become a better picker. Great effort though and awesome idea maybe one day I will be able to upload a song that people will want to go through all the trouble to record it. Good pickin to all of you and the days brighter than the next.
Thursday, July 8, 2010 @5:42:54 AM
If a professional wants you to buy there stuff surely there are other outlets for him or her, I can't see any need to upload it on the HO other than for "free"advertising, perhaps a fee would be appropriate.
Back Yard Picker Says:
Monday, July 12, 2010 @12:23:05 PM
We need to be careful...I mean there are literally Tens of dollars to be made in the Banjo Music Market
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @7:49:09 PM
Given the ease of recording the audio (as J-Walk and others have mentioned), it seems unlikely to me that this is going to encourage recording professionals to post very many more of their tracks than they would otherwise. This is wholly different from what Marc described in his tale of the copied tape -- imagine if it had been feasible to have available a never-ending stack of tapes that contained two of his tunes to give away with the rest available for purchase.
If these professionals aren't willing to share a few tunes with people who have demonstrated themselves (through their membership here) to be a component of their target audience, then to heck with 'em. I'll be sure not to buy anything from someone who streams but doesn't allow downloads on the BHO jukebox.
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