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Yopparai - Posted - 05/16/2006: 09:54:47
Not to mention that if everyone had just played the instruments the way they were intended, there wouldn't have been any electric guitars, no jazz violin, no funky slap bass. There are people who like a particular type of music or a particular tradition of music and they focus on that. There are also people who like Music. Experimenting and creating, finding out what happens if you play honky tonk on a harpsicord, or bottleneck blues on a banjo.
Its pretty easy to find someone that can reel off a set of bluegrass standards on a 5 string. On the other hand, finding someone that can express any musical idea, whether it springs from their own mind or from ideas expressed by others, on their banjo and do it well are much rarer. I wish I was one of them and I applaud anyone that is.
Boog is clearly a rare bird, and in this I am unanimous!
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jimbo78 - Posted - 05/16/2006: 11:36:47
quote:
Originally posted by tIM01
wats the point of playing 'extreme banjo.' play the banjo how it is ment 2 be played.
if u want 2 play extreme banjo u should think again and try the electric guitar !!!!!!
tIM
How is the banjo meant to be played?
In that case ,"if I do remember correctly;" this instrument "should" be playing some African ritual, rain bringing, fire dance tunes!
JimBo
Thor - Posted - 05/16/2006: 12:02:09
quote:
Originally posted by Yopparai
Not to mention that if everyone had just played the instruments the way they were intended, there wouldn't have been any electric guitars, no jazz violin, no funky slap bass.
Also not to mention bluegrass banjo and bluegrass mandolin... heck, there 'd be no bluegrass music at all. 
jimbo78 - Posted - 05/16/2006: 12:08:29
Oh yeah, and The BooG's the MAN!!
JimBo
salvatone - Posted - 05/16/2006: 14:57:35
Mary Z.
That's great. You must be really thrilled to be able to colaborate with your son that way. Sounds good too.
Salvatone
banjoman50 - Posted - 05/21/2006: 19:11:49
The most extreme banjo that I could recommend would be CD's that have Bela Fleck playing in them. ( New Grass Revival )
Rick Harmon banjoman50@adelphia.net
newbanjoman - Posted - 05/23/2006: 02:29:53
I don't know if it counts as extreme or not, but it's certainly under the punk/folk heading....I'm talking about the Pogues...one of my fave bands of the 80's.
Definitely, an exciting entry into the folk scene....
Other than that, I am currently working on a solid body electric banjo...And although, I do agree that if it's the traditional banjo sound your looking for, this isn't the way to go, I'm excited about the possiblities of using banjo tuning and picking with electric guitar type sound.
This doesn't mean I don't like the traditional sound...I'm just always looking for more possibilities...
Eric
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TheBoog - Posted - 05/23/2006: 08:17:34
quote:
Other than that, I am currently working on a solid body electric banjo...
Hi Eric:
What make of electric banjo are you playing? I like the Pouges as well ... sure'd like to hear some
Cheers,
Ian
Bryan - Posted - 05/23/2006: 19:47:57
Hi guys and gals
this is a most interesting thread. I am a lurker rather than a contributor to this site and I dont regularly check into BH
I have been looking and listening to these sites and links offered on this thread. Some great stuff. i still like traditional bluegrass but I agree totally about pushing the boundaries. After all, even Earl did it. The outlaw family? This is great. And the others too
I play pretty much ahead Earl/Ralph but the people I play with in a band envirement these days arent into bluegrass as such, but we always play a couple of bluegrass flavored (ie, contains banjo picking) in most of our sets. I usually play bass guitar when we are playing rock or electric blues stuff and then swap with our lead guitar player for the accoustic stuff. Recently we were priviledged to have a very well known local bluesman play with us at a bar gig , and at our practise session it had been agreed he would play a (plugged in) accoustic on the songs I played banjo on. Fine, but at the gig, on the very first banjo driven song the pickup failed on his accoustic and so he grabbed one of several electrics he had with him and let rip at appropriate times. I was playing a Nechville Meteor so keeping balanced was no problem, and it was a lot of fun ,hearing how a change of instruments can change the feel of a song quite dramatically. Like every thing in music, dont overdo it.
By the way Mary Z, my wife heads our band and guess what the name of the band is: The Mary Cox Band. Yep, way down here in New Zealand we have a lot in common with all you good people. Keep it up
Cheers from down under
Bryan Cox
newbanjoman - Posted - 05/24/2006: 05:58:42
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Originally posted by TheBoog
quote:
Other than that, I am currently working on a solid body electric banjo...
Hi Eric:
What make of electric banjo are you playing? I like the Pouges as well ... sure'd like to hear some
Cheers,
Ian
I don't have the electric yet...I'm currently building one...so, it might be a few months before it's ready. Right now, I'm playing a $150 Kona banjo, and having a blast doing it. I've been working on my bluegrass picking, and also fooling with minor latin sounding chording and picking. Turns out that the banjo is a pretty cool sounding instrument for that.
I've built electric guitars before, so I'm modeling the banjo from that knowledge and adjusting everything to be banjo. I'm expecting it to sound like an electric guitar. I'm not trying to electrify a skinhead. Although, I would like to try an electrified acoustic as well. Mostly, I want the banjo scale and tuning, so I can play electric with that approach.
It's really all about me coming up with more ideas....
I
newbanjoman - Posted - 05/24/2006: 06:19:59
quote:
Originally posted by banjobiotic
I was in a band in Seattle for awhile called The Bond and I played a combination of heavily distorted electric banjo and acoustic banjo depending on what the song called for. Also a great band from Seattle called Guardian Alien did the distorted electric banjo thing and they were great. If you distort the banjo (or anything for that matter) a whole lot then you run into a problem with overtones and sustain making fast picking sound like a big mess, so you end up getting alot of single string guitar type stuff instead of a lot of rolls.
I'm curious about the rolls issue....
What did you do to get a better sound? I was thinking of possibly using a gate to clip the sustain and give a sharper attack sound. Of course, chording shouldn't be an issue....but definitely, I can see your point about the rolls getting ll muddied up.
Eric
TheBoog - Posted - 05/24/2006: 08:33:07
Hi Eric:
quote:
I'm expecting it to sound like an electric guitar. I'm not trying to electrify a skinhead. Although, I would like to try an electrified acoustic as well. Mostly, I want the banjo scale and tuning, so I can play electric with that approach.
I think that's a really good way to go, it's exactly how I'd do it if I knew how to do it myself - solid body .... and humbuckers
Cheers,
Ian
banjobiotic - Posted - 05/24/2006: 16:05:50
I was using the Deering Crossfire for the heavy distortion stuff and that particular banjo works very well with distortion. The head is muted so it makes for better sustain and less overtones. Other electric banjos like the nechville and goldtone don't mute the head and distortion can sound very tinny and gross. For distortion I would recommend the Crossfire or a solid body electric like the banjoblaster.
P.J.
5th season - Posted - 05/26/2006: 14:13:55
I think if you are playing from the deep soul, that is what your creative center wants to hear and do, then you will might deviate from the expected sound that people think of as usual. The norms that we are structured by (overstructured?).
I remember on one occassion Tony Trischka suggested that one could randomly place your fingers anywhere on the neck and strum, wait, and listen. It is then that you can hear things about that particular collection of notes that might sound nice, or sad, or tense- that could stimulate your creative path in special way. Not to mention also that less is often more. I think those are momments of true creativity spawning new musical knowledge.
Keep on plucking and let it flow!
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Yopparai - Posted - 05/27/2006: 00:00:15
*CACKLE* *GLEE*
Darzak - Posted - 05/27/2006: 22:49:17
hey everyone Darzak Rose here
I have been playing guitar for over 3 years now and I'm about to begin banjo.I am the vocalist and guitarist for a Death metal/country/bluegrass band.We are probably the most extreme band you will ever hear that involves a banjo.We are called trailorpark thrash you can visit us at
http://myspace.com/trailorparkthrash
by the way we are probably the first band ever that is a death metal/country/bluegrass band .People have told us that it is a stupid idea to combine these forms of music together but we sound pretty good and maybe one day our band will inspire a new genre of music.
METAL TIL' DEATH
TheBoog - Posted - 05/27/2006: 23:14:02
Hi Darzak:
Have you got any mp3's posted. I tried to find some but couldn't
Thanks.,
Ian
Yopparai - Posted - 05/27/2006: 23:17:04
Ok, Darzak, ya got me curious. Post up some tunage! "They" may be right, it may be completely insane to try and bridge the gap between death metal and bluegrass, but in my experience its best not to let "Them" decide that for you. Give it a shot, both barrels, and see what happens.
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TheBoog - Posted - 05/28/2006: 00:05:25
Give it your best shot Darzak, me and Yoppy can take it 
Actually if you can pull it off, I think that's great .. I'd love to hear some.
Boog
jimbo78 - Posted - 05/28/2006: 11:49:31
Hey Darzak!! You ever heard of this band????????????????
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...ndid=3869957
Hey BooG ,Check these folk out,if you want something a little different!?
Oh Welcome to the HangOut Darzak!
JimBo
Edited by - jimbo78 on 05/28/2006 11:53:07
TheBoog - Posted - 05/28/2006: 12:12:22
Hi JimBo:
"Psychohillbilly" 
That fiddle player looks dangerous 
Cheers,
Ian
Edited by - TheBoog on 05/28/2006 12:13:05
TheBoog - Posted - 05/28/2006: 12:15:47
It just occurred to me. Maybe we need an "Electric Banjo" section on the BHO 
Cheers,
Ian
jimbo78 - Posted - 05/28/2006: 12:31:55
Yeah Right! That'll be the day!
JimBo
Darzak - Posted - 05/28/2006: 19:03:11
It's me again I'm new to myspace ,but I'm trying to put up some of our stuff on the site I'll let you guys know when I figure it out.
METAL TIL' DEATH
microtone - Posted - 06/02/2006: 10:44:38
don't think Anyone has mentioned Neil Haverstick; He has a Banjo with 19 equal tones per octave instead of 12 but I don't think he's recorded on it - theres a tiny pic on his site tho. There are also a couple of just intonation (harmonically pure) tuned banjos out there - no idea how they look just intonation guitars often have partial & bent frets as well as a good many of them too
newbanjoman - Posted - 06/12/2006: 04:20:34
quote:
Originally posted by TheBoog
quote:
Other than that, I am currently working on a solid body electric banjo...
Hi Eric:
What make of electric banjo are you playing? I like the Pouges as well ... sure'd like to hear some
Cheers,
Ian
Hey Ian and the rest of the banjo gang...
Just a progress update....finally got a bit organized and spent more money I have no business spending on more instruments....LOL
The new electric solidbody is under way....called the Celtic Cross because of the wood inlay pattern. The design is thru the body neck, made of sandwiched mahogany and oak (truss rod channel). the body is sandwiched mahogany and basswood with a bird's eye maple inlay.
The fretboard is bocote...first time I've worked with this wood, so wish me luck ;).
It helps a lot that I have a buddy giving me his mahogany discards from his ChrisCraft restoration project. It's all thin stuff, so that means that everything is laminated.
And, you all know how it goes once you get started....(and make the mistake of going to the local WoodCraft)....
Weeeeelll, I now own a small table saw and a bandsaw (Rikon...great bang for the buck!), and around $60 worth of curly and bird's eye maple, along with some bocote and basswood...LOL
I've got some hardware ordered...found an odd five string Strat type bridge on ebay...We'll see how that goes.
I'm still on the lookout for a cheap drill press and a bench sander...LOL.
I can see that my "free materials" electric is gonna wind up at around a grand....LOL
No worries though, the tools won't go to waste...There's plenty else that I SHOULD be fixing up around here.
Eric
PS...I'll try to get some pics up before too long. Is there a separate forum for banjo builders and projects?
I
TheBoog - Posted - 06/12/2006: 09:01:31
Hi Eric:
Man, that sounds really cool! I'm really looking forward to seeing and hearing it. The Celtic cross pattern sounds very cool.
Don't know if you're married but when you wrote, "There's plenty else that I SHOULD be fixing up around here.", it sounded stangely familiar ... Remember that all this new equipment needs to be carefully tested, and who knows, maybe even ... "calibrated" . That could take months of "thinking about" and of course you'll need to do a few "smaller projects" along the way, just to make sure everything's 100%.
Cheers,
Ian
newbanjoman - Posted - 06/17/2006: 11:34:34
Okay, I read through the forum help files, but I don't get how to add an image at all....
Is there no way just to insert by browsing and uploading?
Eric....
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Bloodybill - Posted - 06/17/2006: 16:17:17
quote:
Originally posted by Tor
I´ve found that the "bum-titty" rythm works really well for playing hardcore punk such as minor threat. I figured out how to play their "I don´t wanna hear it".
I'd love to hear what you've come up with.
Edit: Oh yeah, Hogscraper is awesome!
Also, I'd have to throw out "Flogging Molly" as a band with some extreme banjo.
I like all kinds of music, so if the banjo jams, that's extreme to me.
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you remembered to leave it behind.
The funny thing about me is,
I'm a member of the Right Brigade.
Edited by - Bloodybill on 06/17/2006 16:48:34
Yopparai - Posted - 06/18/2006: 01:05:01
quote:
Originally posted by Bloodybill
Also, I'd have to throw out "Flogging Molly" as a band with some extreme banjo.
My kids' number one requested drive time album?
Drunken Lullabies.
phischer - Posted - 06/21/2006: 06:28:16
Grunjo?
C Fischer
Jon Eric - Posted - 06/21/2006: 12:41:57
I agree we need an electric banjo section to BHO as well as others who have posted wonderful inovative music branching out a little on what the banjo can express in other styles of music as well. Be it Jazz, fusion, jamgrass, or whatever style. My sincere respect for each and every one of you for testing and going beyond the boundries of what this instrument can possibly do. There are banjo players who only want to play traditional bluegrass- and hey , that's fine- everyone needs a nitch- However I will be still looking for mine and I believe that with enough practice I will be heading into the electric world VERY soon.
Jon Eric
http://www.myspace.com/gr8vox
TheBoog - Posted - 06/21/2006: 15:06:47
quote:
I agree we need an electric banjo section to BHO
Hi Jon:
I agree
Ian
SonicGrass - Posted - 06/29/2006: 13:40:07
Yep I would love an electric banjo section we could at least start a thread
The thing ya can't remember tells the thing ya can't forget -Tom Waits
1four5 - Posted - 06/30/2006: 15:51:54
An electric banjo section gets my vote as well
Dean
Not Worthy
danny boy 47 - Posted - 07/05/2006: 13:41:34
Greetings, I'm new to the banjo, and this topic is mostly why I even picked it up. Primus had a large influence. I did take a few lessons, but the teacher is taking my in the wrong direction, and denies the ability do teach me what I want. I guess,long story short, how should I tune a 5 string to play typical guitar music, and more heavy music? Thanks
"God didn't do it, you did!" Raoul Duke
Bloodybill - Posted - 07/05/2006: 14:05:54
I figure you should get one of those 6 string banjo/guitars if you want to play it like a guitar.
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But the funny thing about you is,
you remembered to leave it behind.
The funny thing about me is,
I'm a member of the Right Brigade.
danny boy 47 - Posted - 07/05/2006: 20:22:19
Maybe, a six string would be easier, but it can't be that hard to do something with a 5 string. A frontier of sound awaits.
I'll mess with it alittle, and I'm sure I'll figure it out. Thanks.
"God didn't do it, you did!" Raoul Duke
1four5 - Posted - 07/05/2006: 21:14:16
Open G tuning kicks butt for heavy stuff, my gosh...who wouldn't want to thrash with straight bar chords and pentatonic notes all layed out nice and easy and great and simple hammer and pull riffs alll over the place...then throw that high G string in there to throw everyone off...like "where did that come from"? Especially if you're rocking with a guitar player and bass to hold the low end, and you can let the high end rip!
Dean
Not Worthy
SonicGrass - Posted - 07/10/2006: 13:32:46
"Greetings, I'm new to the banjo, and this topic is mostly why I even picked it up. Primus had a large influence. I did take a few lessons, but the teacher is taking my in the wrong direction, and denies the ability do teach me what I want. I guess,long story short, how should I tune a 5 string to play typical guitar music, and more heavy music? Thanks"
You can tune the banjo any way that you want that's part of the beauty of the thing. You could quickly tune up like the high end of a guitar by changing your High D or 1st string to E and change the 5th string to A or B. You will be set up just like the first four strings of a guitar.
The thing ya can't remember tells the thing ya can't forget -Tom Waits
Reverend Mediocre - Posted - 07/18/2006: 21:18:34
I might recommend Trollfest. Polka/Humppa influenced metal from Norway.
The banjo isn't a prominent instrument, accordians and fiddle are usually more audible then the banjo. The banjo is usually either not there at all, relegated to the far background, or only in breakdowns.
You can check them out at http://www.myspace.com/trollfest - Particularly the tracks "Helvetes Hunden GARM" and "den apne sjo" has a prominent banjo in a couple parts.
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