finger-picker - Posted - 11/23/2022:  16:46:21

In fancy music terminology, slides are glissandos, pull offs and hammer ons are ways to play legato / types of slurs, I assume a choke is a type of slur too but is there a name for is in the orchestral world?

Main reason for asking is I'm trying to figure out if I can find a way to put in chokes in my music software (MuseScore).

Noodlin - Posted - 11/23/2022:  17:42:08

What’s a choke? Is that related to vamping?

thisoldman - Posted - 11/23/2022:  18:08:07

I think this may answer your question. 

Old Hickory - Posted - 11/23/2022:  18:59:17

I agree with "bend," the subject of the link posted above. Bend is perhaps not any more of a "musical" term than "choke," but it's what guitarists call it. Choke never struck me as an appropriate description of what's happening.

Edited by - Old Hickory on 11/23/2022 18:59:42

TreyDBanjoKS - Posted - 11/23/2022:  19:12:05

I'd say bend is the most common term used for that effect. Guitarists, harmonica players, and brass & woodwind players also use the term bend for the same type of musical effect. Many electronic keyboards have a bend (or shift) dial to achieve this effect too. I also agree that the commonly used "choke" is an odd term that doesn't really seem right for what's happening on the instrument.

-TD

Old Hickory - Posted - 11/23/2022:  19:13:43

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What’s a choke? Is that related to vamping?

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It's what Earl does when he jumps to 2nd string 10th fret:

Noodlin - Posted - 11/23/2022:  19:27:58

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Originally posted by Old Hickory

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Originally posted by Noodlin

What’s a choke? Is that related to vamping?

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It's what Earl does when he jumps to 2nd string 10th fret:

Oh, interesting!  I would have just called that bending. 

G Edward Porgie - Posted - 11/23/2022:  19:32:31

There are terms used with many instruments that are specific to one family of instruments and are meanignless to others. An example would be the term "col legno," which applies to a bowing style and would have no meaning to a trumpeter or flutist. I belive "choke' or "bend "are the same; they don't apply to orchestral music. Even if a banjo became part of an orchestra, "choke" may not have any meaning except to the banjo guy, and a composer or arranger would have to familiarize himself with all the odd terms of that instrument, just as he must have earlier learned "col legno," "overblowing," and other instrument-specific notations.

Old Hickory - Posted - 11/23/2022:  20:01:48

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Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

There are terms used with many instruments that are specific to one family of instruments and are meanignless to others.

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Exactly.

Not only words, but symbols. Some guitar music -- both tab and standard notation -- has symbols to indicate up-pick and down-pick. No meaning or use to most other instruments.

trapdoor2 - Posted - 11/23/2022:  20:20:07

Musescore supports a wide variety of bends, aka "chokes". Look in the manual to see how they are applied, modified, etc.

Greg Denton - Posted - 11/24/2022:  04:29:35

portamento maybe?

Greg Denton - Posted - 11/24/2022:  04:38:08

In this wikipedia article on Finger Vibrato, if you see the section on "radial pitch-shifting (string bending)" they refer to it as a way of making a portamento transition between notes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_v...-shifting

plars - Posted - 11/24/2022:  05:19:21

I have heard that called “the banjo mating call….”

I don’t remember where I heard that but it seems appropriate.

-Paul

janolov - Posted - 11/24/2022:  05:25:33

In TablEdit there is a difference between choke and bend. The choke will always rise the pitch 1/4 tone, and in the bend you decide yourself how far you can bend (for example a half tone step (corresponds to one fret) or two tone steps (two frets).