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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: TOTW 6/30/2017 - Buffalo Gals (John Hatcher version)


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jack_beuthin - Posted - 06/30/2017:  06:21:39


This is a last minute fill-in for TOTW, so I won't get windy here.



Buffalo Gals sourced to John Hatcher is not quite the same as the well known Buffalo Gals of American folk music tradition.  This tune is often called the Mississippi version of Buffalo Gals (Hatcher was from Mississippi).  I have also heard it called the Kentucky version, but I’m not sure why (any clues out there?).  Also, it is sometimes called Buffalo Girls.



I don’t have much tune background—I just love this tune and it is popular in jams in my area.  John Hatcher (1886-1958) was from Iuka, Tishimingo County, Mississippi. He was recorded playing Buffalo Gals in 1939 by Herbert Halpert for the Library of Congress (it is archived in the LOC of as Buffalo Gals).  The tune is notated in the Milliner-Koken Collection of American Fiddle Tunes.



On to the music then.



The John Hatcher recording: slippery-hill.com/recording/buffalo-gals-0



Chirps Smith: fieldrecorder.bandcamp.com/tra...n-hatcher



The Ubiquitones (with Adam Hurt on fiddle and Pete Peterson on banjo): youtube.com/watch?v=SWH_Vnr_iwY



The Canote Brothers: stringband.mossyroof.com/BuffaloGals.mp3



BanjoHangout’s J-Walk and one of his Tuscon jams: soundcloud.com/walkenbach/buff...n-hatcher



BanjoHangout’s Ron Novit: banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...archived=



BanjoHangout’s Scott Phillips (also of The Morgantown Rounders): banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...archived=



A tab by Ken Torke at Tater Joes: taterjoes.com/banjo/BuffaloGir...tcher.pdf



And lastly, my hasty recording along with tab.



 



Okay, now jump in with anything you have!


Edited by - jack_beuthin on 06/30/2017 06:38:24


banjukebox - Posted - 06/30/2017:  06:54:38


Thanks for jumping in on short notice, Jack. This is a tune that comes up every once in a while in our jams. People distinguish it from the more popular "song" by calling one "Buffalo Gals" and the other "Buffalo Girls" (though I'm not sure which is which). I never knew the source.



Here's the version I came up with:





youtube.com/watch?v=GwHwZGKi-Q8



I'm out of town at the moment, but I'll try to post a tab once I return to the homestead.

cmic - Posted - 06/30/2017:  07:23:29


Cool ! This is the version I know, as played by Cathy Fink and Marcy Marxer

You can hear them on you tube youtube.com/watch?v=NOYYCheJV3

or on the CD "Old Time Banjo Festival". Enjoy !



I'm gonna try this one (with my ear and tab from Jack).



 

Davidprat - Posted - 06/30/2017:  09:15:05


m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPf37HqsCo8Here We are playing the tune at Al ras festival in Barcelona , is a great tune We love it



 


vrteach - Posted - 06/30/2017:  14:07:49


I learned this as "Old-Time Buffalo Gals" from the Bloomington Indiana crowd at Battle Ground a few years ago.



Our band moved it to G, and combined it with the more common Buffalo Girl, which made a nice intro medley for the second act of a play.

carlb - Posted - 07/01/2017:  06:38:39


quote:

Originally posted by jack_beuthin

Buffalo Gals sourced to John Hatcher is not quite the same as the well known Buffalo Gals of American folk music tradition.  This tune is often called the Mississippi version of Buffalo Gals (Hatcher was from Mississippi).  I have also heard it called the Kentucky version, but I’m not sure why (any clues out there?).  Also, it is sometimes called Buffalo Girls.

I don’t have much tune background—I just love this tune and it is popular in jams in my area.  John Hatcher (1886-1958) was from Iuka, Tishimingo County, Mississippi. He was recorded playing Buffalo Gals in 1939 by Herbert Halpert for the Library of Congress (it is archived in the LOC of as Buffalo Gals).






A notation for the Hatcher version titled "Buffalo Girl" also appears in "Mississippi Fiddle Tunes and Songs from the 1930s" by Harry Bolick and Stephen T. Austin, University Press of Mississippi, 2015, p. 289. A page about John Hatcher is on p. 283.



The tune we know well as "Buffalo Gals" was published in 1844 under the title "Lubly Fan Will You Come Out Tonight?" by Cool White.

levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/cat...y:020.028

blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2014/08...alo-gals/

JanetB - Posted - 07/01/2017:  17:09:54


That was a nice one from you, Jack.  I like how you begin the tune with the "Galax lick."  I used John Hatcher's 1939 recording and added the traditional melody to it.  Some information about his life is in the attachment from the long liner notes of Great Big Yam Potatoes.





  



 


Edited by - JanetB on 07/01/2017 17:15:55


Cyndy - Posted - 07/02/2017:  10:19:23


When I think of the tune, this video comes to mind!




Edited by - Cyndy on 07/02/2017 10:20:51

Yigal Zan - Posted - 07/05/2017:  19:37:29


Versions of the tune which in most cases goes by the name Buffalo Gals goes also by other names. One example is Maxwell Girl by the Taylor's Kentucky boys. Some material about the band is in 



africanbluegrass.com/content/t...ucky-boys

 



One can listen to the band's rendition on Youtube at: youtube.com/watch?v=EMGk29UJOno

 

Chadbanjo - Posted - 07/05/2017:  20:15:44


Love this tune. Jammed with an accordian player and came up with a version based on his to play along with. Don't think I had the chance to play along with him after. Here it is, posted it awhile back. This is the first tune of the week in awhile I've recognized the tune. To many tunes. ha



youtu.be/77TUc8HNJrQ



 


Edited by - Chadbanjo on 07/05/2017 20:21:46

gailg64 - Posted - 07/06/2017:  07:52:27


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quote:


Originally posted by Yigal Zan

 

Versions of the tune which in most cases goes by the name Buffalo Gals goes also by other names. One example is Maxwell Girl by the Taylor's Kentucky boys. Some material about the band is in 



africanbluegrass.com/content/t...ucky-boys

 




One can listen to the band's rendition on Youtube at: youtube.com/watch?v=EMGk29UJOno

 







 

Yigal Zan - Posted - 07/06/2017:  11:10:44


I am glad you said it. The banjo playing is indeed amazing. 

 

Cyndy - Posted - 07/09/2017:  06:11:13


Nice choice! Thanks for the nudge to make this one of my porch tunes. I've been having a lot of fun experimenting with it. I don't have a polished version but I'll add a short practice recording as my contribution to the thread. 



soundcloud.com/vitularia/buffalo-gals


Edited by - Cyndy on 07/09/2017 06:14:18

Chadbanjo - Posted - 07/09/2017:  11:54:49


The version I learned from the acordian player is definitely the other version after listening to a few more takes, The A parts are pretty much the same..the B part is a little different, The lyrics seems to fit both parts of each version though.

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