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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Fiebing's dye for skin head coloration?


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MusicManMike - Posted - 12/09/2016:  05:30:45


Has anyone tried to color skin heads with this stuff? I would assume if you did do it, it would have to be a dip method. 


Lyndon Smith - Posted - 12/09/2016:  06:18:21


I have and I have to say that in my opinion, it's the best way. It's also great for dyeing wood.



One of the advantages of alcohol based dyes is it can be thinned with clear alcohol and colour washed onto the hide head. It dries quicky and you can see if it needs to go a little darker just ad a drop more dye and redo.



All the other methods involve wetting the hide and not being able to redo several times in a short period of time.



The picture below shows red rimmed black fret markers I made. The red is maple dyed with Feibings leather dye (the black is ebony)...



Edited by - Lyndon Smith on 12/09/2016 06:20:01


 
 
 

MusicManMike - Posted - 12/09/2016:  06:57:15


Thank you very much for the info Lyndon. Cant wait to try it out. BTW, those fret markers look great! 


Dan Drabek - Posted - 12/09/2016:  10:34:21


Will the dye rub off on to your shirt sleeves?  You may need to give it a light coat of workable or matte spray fixative.



DD


Fathand - Posted - 12/10/2016:  07:18:53


I have a belt I dyed with this and the black has not come off on my pants. I dyed a white Harley seat to black once and it never came off on my pants. That said I would let it wait a day before putting it to the test.



I also use it for wood and I always apply it with one of the little wool daubers that come with it. They also sell bags of 10 of the daubers separate. I think the dipping method would be wasteful and overly soak your project.  On a guess, you could do about 5 heads with one bottle. I do not wet leather or wood when using this.



Be aware when buying black that they make a "black" and a "USMC black". I have found the USMC version to contain a hint of blue.



Edited by - Fathand on 12/10/2016 07:20:29

Fathand - Posted - 12/13/2016:  10:52:18


Since this post I asked the Feibing company about the difference between Black and USMC Black. Here is their answer.



"USMC black and regular Black Leather Dye are both considered charcoal blacks.  The only real difference is the amount of gloss produced by these dyes on certain leathers.  Usually, the difference is tough to even notice but the USMC dye is a little duller.



The Pro Dye black is blue black color."


desert rose - Posted - 12/13/2016:  23:18:44


VERY IMPORTANT



 



They make alcohol AND oil dye, they are NOT interchangeable in their application and characteristics



 



Scott


MusicManMike - Posted - 12/14/2016:  05:56:15


Im very familiar with the dyes (I do a lot of leather work). Thank you all for your input. If anyone is still reading this that has commented would the dip method be best or would the daubers work here as well?


BDCA - Posted - 12/28/2016:  02:55:26


I am also a leather worker and make instrument cases and straps. I have a spray gun for applying even coats of alcohol based dyes thinned 1:1. You can also purchase the compressed air sprayers at Home Depot and they work well for small jobs. It may take a few coats and dry between coats.



I did try Vinagaroon, an archaic method of chemically dying veg tanned leather and some woods. It reacts with the tannins and can be instant and dramatic. I tested some samples from John but there was very little reaction due to the lack of tannins from the tanning process used. It may be a way of enhancing tea stains as it will react with the tannins in tea.



Bob


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