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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Bacon style donut Tone Ring


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jmoathout - Posted - 10/01/2013:  06:44:30


For those seeking a Bacon style tone ring which fits atop a Whyte Laydie tone ring such as found in Reiter Whyte Laydie, Galax, etc. I've just listed one in the classified. I had it on a Reiter which sold, but the buyer didn't opt for the Bacon. These have been very hard to get from Stew Mac.  I got it a year or so ago from Stew Mac but had to pay $124 for an unplated one. I then had it Ni-plated at Nashville Plating. I haven't set the price to re-coup any of the plating cost. The Bacon on the WL fives a full rich tone, not necessarily louder. Very pleasing.


jbalch - Posted - 10/01/2013:  07:09:31


These rings are no longer listed in the Stew Mac catalog.  From what I understand they are not in regular production.



This "plus" combination is my personal favorite.  I think the Bacon ring adds a dobson-like finish to the punchy W.L sound. There is a subtle "warm" sustain that is not brash or harsh. The sound is somewhere between a standard Whyte Laydie &  a tubaphone.  I use this configuration on my 1994 custom grand concert and two (2) Bacophone-plus banjos. There are several sound samples and videos of these on my BHO homepage (links attached too).  



I have no financial interest in this transaction.  But I know (and recommend)  the seller and am familiar with this tone ring.  This is a GREAT opportunity for someone to try the "plus" configuration on a Reiter banjo that already has a Whyte Laydie tone ring installed. This Bacon ring simply replaces the W.L. sleeve - no modification required - as easy as changing the head.



See the photos....



Edited by - jbalch on 10/01/2013 07:22:11



PLUS - Bacon ring added on top of WL scallop


Stewart MacDonald Whyte Laydie tone ring



Grand Concert-plus w/ Bacon tone ring



VIDEO: John Balch ~ Sassafras
(click to view)


VIDEO: John Balch ~ Capshaw
(click to view)


VIDEO: John Balch ~ Walter Hill
(click to view)


VIDEO: John Balch ~ Soldiers' Joy
(click to view)


Lost Cherokee -Reiter bacophone-plus #3575 sample

Andrew Roblin - Posted - 10/01/2013:  08:32:33


My compliments on Lost Cherokee, John. Your playing--and the banjo's tone--are just fabulous.



You have a fine, creative take on the melody.



If I may ask, how does the Bacon donut tone ring differ from the Washburn donut?  I play a Washburn Style C tenor and like the tone very much.



Andrew Roblin



Edited by - Andrew Roblin on 10/01/2013 08:33:01

Pickin furry paws - Posted - 10/01/2013:  09:08:47


Very interesting!


BDCA - Posted - 10/01/2013:  09:48:10


PM Sent..I'll take it.



 



Cya!



Bob


jmoathout - Posted - 10/01/2013:  11:08:38


Bob, if you sent ME a private message, I haven't received it yet.  However, I have a "taker" who sent me a note at 0915. If that falls through, I'll let you know. Thanks.



 



I've been away from the house and computer since about 0930 and haven't had a chance to update the classified to indicate ON HOLD.  Will do now.



Edited by - jmoathout on 10/01/2013 11:09:53

jbalch - Posted - 10/01/2013:  11:10:19


quote:

Originally posted by aroblin

 

My compliments on Lost Cherokee, John. Your playing--and the banjo's tone--are just fabulous.



You have a fine, creative take on the melody.



If I may ask, how does the Bacon donut tone ring differ from the Washburn donut?  I play a Washburn Style C tenor and like the tone very much.



Andrew Roblin






 I have seen a couple of  Washburn banjos - with slightly different spun tone rings.  One was very similar to the Bacon - the flange portion inside the rim was maybe not quite as wide.     Another version had a deeper concave curve to the flange. I think the sound is probably quite similar.



JB



 



 


skip sail - Posted - 10/01/2013:  14:20:03


This is the sort of thing Bill Rickard might make,if he doesnt,then I hope he's reading this!

tiband - Posted - 10/01/2013:  16:17:49


MayBell Slingerland used the exact same tone ring on their MayBell walnut model. I have restore and converted 6 of those banjos and they sound fantastic.



   

Crusty - Posted - 10/01/2013:  16:27:49


Bill makes and sells 'em.


jbalch - Posted - 10/01/2013:  16:28:40


quote:

Originally posted by skip sail

 

This is the sort of thing Bill Rickard might make,if he doesnt,then I hope he's reading this!






I think Bill's rings may be designed to fit together in this way -  but you should confirm that with him.  Also - I have no idea if they are interchangeable with the Stew-Mac W.L. rings that Bart has traditionally used.



Some of his rings are made to fit Keller drum shells - which are not exactly 11" in diameter.  So it is a good idea to confirm the details before assuming that they will work on your banjo.



From another thread, I know that Bart is now using tubaphone rings sourcedh from Bill Rickard.  There is a new Reiter tubaphone-plus (Bacon ring over a tubaphone ring)  for sale at Elderly.com. I assume this is made using all Rickard parts  (not sure).



elderly.com/new_instruments/na...APLUS.htm



 



Edited by - jbalch on 10/01/2013 16:38:21

jbalch - Posted - 10/01/2013:  16:33:29


quote:

Originally posted by tiband

 

MayBell Slingerland used the exact same tone ring on their MayBell walnut model. I have restore and converted 6 of those banjos and they sound fantastic.






 I've had a couple of those tenors too. that do sound very good.






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