Stiv_MacRae - Posted - 06/12/2013:  06:49:40

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Originally posted by tjmangum

 

A friend of mine who was a producer for 60 Minutes, years ago, once told me, "Never meet your heroes - chances are they won't be after you do."  

Terry

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A lot of truth here.  I've been reading Dave Van Ronk's book "Mayor of MacDougal Street", which emphasizes the extent to which performers assertively seek out a successful stage persona that is often very different from their real selves.  The object case in the book was Bob Dylan, who was essentially a fictional character when compared to the real Bob Zimmerman.

dmiller - Posted - 06/16/2013:  18:00:13

Butch Robbins with Bill, Kenny, Wayne, and Mark (Austin City Limits) :

Edited by - dmiller on 06/16/2013 18:01:20

pick it - Posted - 06/16/2013:  18:42:10

Seen him so many times, there was never a doubt that he was the master and in control on stage, guys you can judge professionalism by him.

bbanjoboy - Posted - 06/16/2013:  18:59:17

The thing was that he was well aware of what he did. Not many people can claim to a completely new form of music. Even Elvis was indebted to him. Even Earl, as great as he was, basically did one thing.. create 3 finger 'scruggs style' of banjo playing.. After he did, he didn't do much else.. especially after he left Lester.. Monroe had already invented Bluegrass when he met Earl and kept on creating until his death. Like I said earlier, the Master album was the pinnacle of his carreer if you ask me and that was very close to the end... He was truly one of a kind and the world and it's music is a much better place because of him.

skevincampbell - Posted - 06/16/2013:  22:08:53

Thanks for the video. That was awesome. I love Bill Monroe, and Kenny Baker.

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  06:46:24

A happier question  would have been "What kind of musician was Bill Monroe?"

You probably wouldn't get as many fights over that.

Edited by - steve davis on 06/17/2013 06:47:59

pick it - Posted - 06/17/2013:  08:00:50

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Originally posted by bbanjoboy

 

The thing was that he was well aware of what he did. Not many people can claim to a completely new form of music. Even Elvis was indebted to him. Even Earl, as great as he was, basically did one thing.. create 3 finger 'scruggs style' of banjo playing.. After he did, he didn't do much else.. especially after he left Lester.. Monroe had already invented Bluegrass when he met Earl and kept on creating until his death. Like I said earlier, the Master album was the pinnacle of his carreer if you ask me and that was very close to the end... He was truly one of a kind and the world and it's music is a much better place because of him.

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Really  Earl didn't entirely invent 3 finger style by himself there was a banjo picker in the area named Snuffy Jenkins that created 3 finger style.of course we know what Earl did to improve and refine it  but nevertheless,it was Snuffy.

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  09:13:01

Oh.good.
Now lets argue about Snuffy vs. Earl.

eralbert - Posted - 06/17/2013:  09:22:05

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Originally posted by steve davis

 

Oh.good.

Now lets argue about Snuffy vs. Earl.

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Well said, Steve......some on this thread like to pick at scabs just to make them bleed.....sorta like a troll....what else can be said that hasn't already except....this pick at it syndrome.

Edited by - eralbert on 06/17/2013 09:25:53

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  09:38:05

pick it should maybe be aka as "the final answer man".

budbennett - Posted - 06/17/2013:  11:42:57

What is the name of that first sone Bill and the boys are playing in DMiller's video up there?  it's on the top of my brain but I just can't remember it.

arnie fleischer - Posted - 06/17/2013:  11:58:22

The tune is Kentucky Mandolin.

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  12:39:33

What a wonderful sound Butch and that RB-4 make!

dmiller - Posted - 06/17/2013:  12:40:35

Arnie's right.  Kentucky Mandolin

Played in Gm (tune your B string down one fret to a Bb).

arnie fleischer - Posted - 06/17/2013:  13:18:42

I saw this version of the Blue Grass Boys that same year, 1981, at Lincoln Center in Manhattan.  The vibe coming from the stage was so tangible that I felt I could reach out and touch it.  This band had such amazing presence, matched by only a handful of other bands I've seen over the years.

budbennett - Posted - 06/17/2013:  13:32:38

Thanks.  I had just heard that song last week but couldn't remember the name of it.

budbennett - Posted - 06/17/2013:  13:35:16

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Originally posted by steve davis

 

What a wonderful sound Butch and that RB-4 make!

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A few weeks ago I was with Butch and he was playing that banjo without picks across the room from me.  Such a FANTASTIC tone and volume that thing has.  There is truly no shortage of volume, tone, and an all around good vibe coming out of that thing.

pick it - Posted - 06/17/2013:  14:40:04

For all you' know it all experts about banjo picking" its  time to go to school. in Earls words."AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED SMITH HAMMETT WAS THE FIRST MAN TO COME OUT WITH 3 FINGER PLAYING.Earl goes on to say there were several people in my area in fact who were playing in a 3 finger style there was Smith Hammett so did Snuffy Jenkins and Fisher Hendly.now I say to Steve,and earlbert I hope you learned something from pick-it school of" banjo education" and earlbert ,you know where  you can put your troll comment.now all this can be looked up  if you REALLY WANT to know what you are talking about".schools out" OBTW sometimes I see where banjo pickers get the reputation we have.

Edited by - pick it on 06/17/2013 14:41:47

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  14:42:06

It was a real treat to see Butch on those early Cumberland Highlanders and get to see and hear him play that banjo.
You are very lucky to live where you do,Bud.

I heard Butch play in Massachusetts in the 80s and that banjo just rippled the air around it.

Ebanjo - Posted - 06/17/2013:  15:04:44

In my opinion, Bluegrass music as we know it was invented by Bill Monroe and four other men: Earl Scruggs, Lester Flatt, Chubby Wise, and Howard Watts (aka Cedric Rainwater).
Eric Ellis

bbanjoboy - Posted - 06/17/2013:  16:06:30

cool! we've discussed Earl VS Snuffy, now we can discuss what Bluegrass is...LOL..

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  16:31:16

Thousands of people play bluegrass now.
That's great!

lazyarcher - Posted - 06/17/2013:  16:53:30

That cut of John Henry is just absolute classic...the man had a ton of soul.

TNCowboy - Posted - 06/17/2013:  17:34:53

Man, is this thread itchin' for a padlock....It's disintegrated to the food fight scene from "Blazing Saddles"

pick it - Posted - 06/17/2013:  18:18:30

why, how ?

steve davis - Posted - 06/17/2013:  18:21:44

I thought the seas had calmed,somewhat.

bbanjoboy - Posted - 06/17/2013:  20:00:29

Yes, me too.. nobody has mentioned groping in a page or two now.........LOL

Goldstarman - Posted - 06/17/2013:  20:16:16

I know, its been a kick just sitting back and watching to see what was said, he has been accused of sexual misconduct and being a saint, I'm sure the truth is in between and he was human like the rest of us.