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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Tune of the Week 12/31/2010: Walking In My Sleep


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janolov - Posted - 12/31/2010:  03:23:00




Sleepwalking
Sleepwalking, also known as somnambulism, is a sleep disorder belonging to the parasomnia family. Sleepwalkers arise from the slow wave sleep stage in a state of low consciousness and perform activities that are usually performed during a state of full consciousness. These activities can be as benign as sitting up in bed, walking to the bathroom, and cleaning, or as hazardous as cooking, driving, extremely violent gestures, grabbing at hallucinated objects, or even homicide.

Although generally sleepwalking cases consist of simple, repeated behaviours, there are occasionally reports of people performing complex behaviours while asleep, although their legitimacy is often disputed. Sleepwalkers often have little or no memory of the incident, as they are not truly conscious. Although their eyes are open, their expression is dim and glazed over. Sleepwalking may last as little as 30 seconds or as long as 30 minutes.

Walking In My Sleep – the tune
I try to google and youtube a lot on Old-Time music. Sometimes I find tunes that goes directly to my heart, and that is easy to learn and memorize. Other tunes may go directly to my heart, but may be impossible to learn. And still other tunes don’t go to my heart and is impossible to learn...... Walking In My Sleep belongs to the first category.

I think Walking In My Sleep is from the beginning a fiddle tune (or a fiddle tune for string band), but I think it goes well on the banjo, too.

I found an earlier discussion of the tune in the BHO archive: banjohangout.org/archive/79726

I first heard Walking In My Sleep on an old record from Galax Old Fiddler’s Convention. Here you can hear 30 seconds of it: emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...72888.m3u

At the same time I bought Kirk Sutphin’s Old Roots & New Branches where he plays where he plays a thrilling fiddle version:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...94526.m3u
or
amazon.co.uk/gp/dmusic/media/s...003Y6TRMY

The tune has also been recorded by Tommy Jarrel on The Legacy Of Tommy Jarrell, Volume 4: Pickin' On Tommy's Porch. Here is a 30 seconds clip of it:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...22288.m3u


Another good version is on the CD “Bull Plus 10%” by The Whitetop Mountain Band:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/11...01001.m3u

At BHO I have found a good banjo and guitar version by frfiddle (Dave Allen) with banjo and guitar: banjohangout.org/myhangout/mus...t=Search#

There are also some versions on Youtube:
youtube.com/watch?v=zJ9moXw9p8g
youtube.com/watch?v=1G072us38Bs
youtube.com/watch?v=rTquvHBqpTo (Roy Acuff)

I have also recorded a poor audio version on BHO, where I play it both clawhammer and thumb lead:
hangoutstorage.com/banjohangou...22010.mp3

(I was awake when making the recording, but it was early this morning and I felt like walking in my sleep.

Tuning
Walking In My Sleep is a G tune, that goes well in the ordinary G tuning (gDGBD). I think it is an example of “chord tune” where the chords should be played more or less. It is the G chord and D chord that is used.

Style
As I mentioned above, it seems to be a fiddle tune. The banjo versions I have heard is clawhammer (but there are also a Scruggs style tab in BHO Tab archive).

I play it the tune both two-finger thumb lead and clawhammer. I have focused a lot on the thumb lead style the last years and I want to demonstrate that the thumb lead style is well suited for fiddle tunes.

Tabs
Clawhammer tabs can be found in Brad Leftwich book Round Peak Style Clawhammer Banjo: melbay.com/product.asp?Product...de=author.

There is also a tab version in Dan Levenson’s Old Time Festival Tunes for Clawhammer Banjo (clawdan.com/index.php/products...er_banjo/ ).

I have tabbed down my own version (clawhammer and thumb lead) as attachment to this post (there is also an older version posted by me in the BHO tab archive).

History of the tune
The Fiddler’s Companion give this information:

quote:
WALKING IN MY SLEEP Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; western North Carolina, southwest Virginia, east Kentucky. G Major. Standard tuning. AB (Silberberg): AABB (Phillips). The tune has been called a Blue Ridge area standard, though Tom Carter and Barry Poss (1977) believe it was a relatively late addition to the traditional fiddler's repertoire of Patrick County, Va., "though one which most of the older fiddlers learned." It is known as a Surry County, North Carolina, regional tune, and was, for example, in the repertoire of Otis Burris; a rather "powerful and pretty" version was collected from Esker Hutchins of Dobson, North Carolina.
***
Pain in my fingers, pain in my toes;
Pain in my ankle bone, I ain't a-gonna work no more.
Walkin' in my sleep, baby, walkin' in my sleep;
Just down the Dixie line, just walkin'in my sleep.
When you see that gal of mine, just tell her if you can,
..............pick up bread, and wash those dirty hands.
When you see that gal of mine, just tell her if you please,
Its whener'd you go to make up dough, roll those dirty sleeves.
(Tommy Jarrell, 1981)
***
Composition of “Walking in My Sleep” has been credited to Tennessee’s Fiddlin’ Arthur Smith (e.g. S. Songer), who recorded it in 1930, but the song was recorded by several performers in the 78 RPM era. Mark Wilson is of the opinion “Walking in My Sleep” may have been derived from a Missouri tune called “Brown Leaf Rag.” Other related melodies (listed by Jane Keefer) include Snuffy Jenkins & Pappy Shirrell’s “Boggy Road to Texas,” Ohio musician Cecil Plum’s “Trumpey’s Hornpipe,” Tommy Jackson’s “When the Leaves Begin to Turn Brown,” and Herman Johnson’s generically-titled “Just an Old Rag in G.” Source for notated version: Dudley Spangler (Va.) [Phillips].



Happy New Year all sleepwalkers!


Edited by - janolov on 12/31/2010 07:15:13



Walking In My Sleep

   

bluemule_77 - Posted - 12/31/2010:  05:04:05


Great job, janolov. The first time I heard "Walking in My Sleep" I told my wife, "That first part sounds a lot like 'When the Leaves Turn Brown,'" which is a tune played around here (see last week's TOTW for more about 'around here'). I see now on the Fiddler's Companion reference that they say it may have been derived from a Missouri tune called "Brown Leaf Rag" and mentions Tommy Jackson playing "When the Leaves Begin to Turn Brown."

Isn't this stuff fun?

I've played the "Leaves" variant for a while now -- but "Walking" is still quite a bit different and a great tune, so I'll endeavor to learn it as well.

Brian

hendrid - Posted - 12/31/2010:  05:58:12


Interesting, keep thinking about Wabash Cannonball some.

Roy Acuff version also: youtube.com/watch?v=rTquvHBqpT...e=related

Kenny Baker: youtube.com/watch?v=PVAnjBuREr...e=related


Edited by - hendrid on 12/31/2010 08:30:57

RG - Posted - 12/31/2010:  23:56:38


Jan-great choice for TOTW, one of my all time favorites!

ndlxs - Posted - 01/01/2011:  10:10:15


It works good on fingerpicked guitar in G, too, slower and funkier.

Viper - Posted - 01/03/2011:  10:49:59


I love the version on the Field Recorders Collective Tommy Jarrell, Volume 1 (FRC211: fieldrecorder.com/docs/store20...tm#frc211). Thanks for your tab.

BANJOJUDY - Posted - 01/28/2011:  16:14:17


Did anyone notice that Walking In My Sleep is not archived in the Index To TOTW?

AND...here's a plea, and a thank you to all who have been so great about volunteering.

I need MORE volunteers - email me at inquiry@siliconheights.com if you can help with this ongoing thread - how many years strong/long is it?

vrteach - Posted - 01/29/2011:  07:08:21


Oops, I must have been enjoying my New Years too much.

gailg64 - Posted - 01/29/2011:  13:43:54


The fiddler on that Galax Walking in My Sleep clip sounded to me like Kyle Creed, though there were probably a number of fiddlers around that had that sound. Kyle Creed loved to fiddle with b-g banjo players & the banjo (banjos?) you hear on the clip is the good old fashioned bluegrass picking you used to hear at Galax 40 years ago. I'll bet there are folks on here who would know exactly what the lineup was--hey Ken, was that you on the banjo?
G

quote:
Originally posted by janolov



Sleepwalking
Sleepwalking, also known as somnambulism, is a sleep disorder belonging to the parasomnia family. Sleepwalkers arise from the slow wave sleep stage in a state of low consciousness and perform activities that are usually performed during a state of full consciousness. These activities can be as benign as sitting up in bed, walking to the bathroom, and cleaning, or as hazardous as cooking, driving, extremely violent gestures, grabbing at hallucinated objects, or even homicide.

Although generally sleepwalking cases consist of simple, repeated behaviours, there are occasionally reports of people performing complex behaviours while asleep, although their legitimacy is often disputed. Sleepwalkers often have little or no memory of the incident, as they are not truly conscious. Although their eyes are open, their expression is dim and glazed over. Sleepwalking may last as little as 30 seconds or as long as 30 minutes.

Walking In My Sleep – the tune
I try to google and youtube a lot on Old-Time music. Sometimes I find tunes that goes directly to my heart, and that is easy to learn and memorize. Other tunes may go directly to my heart, but may be impossible to learn. And still other tunes don’t go to my heart and is impossible to learn...... Walking In My Sleep belongs to the first category.

I think Walking In My Sleep is from the beginning a fiddle tune (or a fiddle tune for string band), but I think it goes well on the banjo, too.

I found an earlier discussion of the tune in the BHO archive: banjohangout.org/archive/79726

I first heard Walking In My Sleep on an old record from Galax Old Fiddler’s Convention. Here you can hear 30 seconds of it: emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...72888.m3u

At the same time I bought Kirk Sutphin’s Old Roots & New Branches where he plays where he plays a thrilling fiddle version:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...94526.m3u
or
amazon.co.uk/gp/dmusic/media/s...003Y6TRMY

The tune has also been recorded by Tommy Jarrel on The Legacy Of Tommy Jarrell, Volume 4: Pickin' On Tommy's Porch. Here is a 30 seconds clip of it:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/10...22288.m3u


Another good version is on the CD “Bull Plus 10%” by The Whitetop Mountain Band:
emusic.com/samples/m3u/song/11...01001.m3u

At BHO I have found a good banjo and guitar version by frfiddle (Dave Allen) with banjo and guitar: banjohangout.org/myhangout/mus...t=Search#

There are also some versions on Youtube:
youtube.com/watch?v=zJ9moXw9p8g
youtube.com/watch?v=1G072us38Bs
youtube.com/watch?v=rTquvHBqpTo (Roy Acuff)

I have also recorded a poor audio version on BHO, where I play it both clawhammer and thumb lead:
hangoutstorage.com/banjohangou...22010.mp3

(I was awake when making the recording, but it was early this morning and I felt like walking in my sleep.

Tuning
Walking In My Sleep is a G tune, that goes well in the ordinary G tuning (gDGBD). I think it is an example of “chord tune” where the chords should be played more or less. It is the G chord and D chord that is used.

Style
As I mentioned above, it seems to be a fiddle tune. The banjo versions I have heard is clawhammer (but there are also a Scruggs style tab in BHO Tab archive).

I play it the tune both two-finger thumb lead and clawhammer. I have focused a lot on the thumb lead style the last years and I want to demonstrate that the thumb lead style is well suited for fiddle tunes.

Tabs
Clawhammer tabs can be found in Brad Leftwich book Round Peak Style Clawhammer Banjo: melbay.com/product.asp?Product...e=author.

There is also a tab version in Dan Levenson’s Old Time Festival Tunes for Clawhammer Banjo (clawdan.com/index.php/products...er_banjo/ ).

I have tabbed down my own version (clawhammer and thumb lead) as attachment to this post (there is also an older version posted by me in the BHO tab archive).

History of the tune
The Fiddler’s Companion give this information:
quote:
WALKING IN MY SLEEP Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; western North Carolina, southwest Virginia, east Kentucky. G Major. Standard tuning. AB (Silberberg): AABB (Phillips). The tune has been called a Blue Ridge area standard, though Tom Carter and Barry Poss (1977) believe it was a relatively late addition to the traditional fiddler's repertoire of Patrick County, Va., "though one which most of the older fiddlers learned." It is known as a Surry County, North Carolina, regional tune, and was, for example, in the repertoire of Otis Burris; a rather "powerful and pretty" version was collected from Esker Hutchins of Dobson, North Carolina.
***
Pain in my fingers, pain in my toes;
Pain in my ankle bone, I ain't a-gonna work no more.
Walkin' in my sleep, baby, walkin' in my sleep;
Just down the Dixie line, just walkin'in my sleep.
When you see that gal of mine, just tell her if you can,
..............pick up bread, and wash those dirty hands.
When you see that gal of mine, just tell her if you please,
Its whener'd you go to make up dough, roll those dirty sleeves.
(Tommy Jarrell, 1981)
***
Composition of “Walking in My Sleep” has been credited to Tennessee’s Fiddlin’ Arthur Smith (e.g. S. Songer), who recorded it in 1930, but the song was recorded by several performers in the 78 RPM era. Mark Wilson is of the opinion “Walking in My Sleep” may have been derived from a Missouri tune called “Brown Leaf Rag.” Other related melodies (listed by Jane Keefer) include Snuffy Jenkins & Pappy Shirrell’s “Boggy Road to Texas,” Ohio musician Cecil Plum’s “Trumpey’s Hornpipe,” Tommy Jackson’s “When the Leaves Begin to Turn Brown,” and Herman Johnson’s generically-titled “Just an Old Rag in G.” Source for notated version: Dudley Spangler (Va.) [Phillips].



Happy New Year all sleepwalkers!


vrteach - Posted - 03/27/2011:  15:01:23


So, I've always meant to go back and "learn" each TOTW. And by "learn" I mean manage to play it at least once. I doubt that I'll manage it, but I did just make a try at Walking in My Sleep.

It's more like RUNNING in my sleep, but that seems to be a common tempo.



Walking in My Sleep

   

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