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Oct 12, 2026 - 10:31:38 PM
38 posts since 6/29/2016

I have a set of older Dunlop “pat pend” picks in 025 that I tried and compared them to a new set without the pat pend note of the same thickness. The older ones sound vastly different and better to my ears (darker, warmer, rounder). Did they change the Dunlop pick make up over the years, and am I doomed to have to seek out these vintage picks if I lose this pair?!

Oct 13, 2026 - 3:48:46 AM

4733 posts since 7/12/2006

I would think the older ones are just broke in , fit your fingers better and obviously are worn where they hit the strings. If the new dunlops are basically the same picks they too will just have to get broke in

Oct 13, 2026 - 6:38:09 AM
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The rules in bluegrass dictate that the old one is always better.

Oct 13, 2026 - 6:46:09 AM
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Dean T

USA

4503 posts since 4/18/2024

Compare the side profile, to see how the curve matches. Especially the angle of the very tip. Different curves and tip angle sound different. Even the band fit and how far you push them on your fingers can make them sound different. Pick twist also makes a difference, I always twist mine slightly with needle nose pliers, to hit the strings more squarely. And you can make new picks sound better faster, by sanding the manufacturing edge off the tip, rounding, and polishing the tip.

Oct 13, 2026 - 7:20:36 AM
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7015 posts since 5/29/2011

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Originally posted by Laurence Diehl

The rules in bluegrass dictate that the old one is always better.


Especially if they don't make them like that anymore.

Oct 13, 2026 - 8:50:28 AM

16818 posts since 10/30/2008

Are the news one same gauge as the old one? 0.025"?

Oct 13, 2026 - 9:15:05 AM

38 posts since 6/29/2016

Yes they are the same gauge. I also think the old ones were essentially unused, just tarnished.

Oct 14, 2026 - 4:22 PM

3741 posts since 4/7/2004

One thing I notice with the old Nationals as compared to the newer ones, besides that they do sound better, is the sound they make when dropped onto a hard surface from about 10 inches. The old ones have a nicer ring. I have a bunch of Dunlops that I bought back in the '70's and '80's.

Edited by - banjoken on 10/14/2026 16:23:57

Oct 14, 2026 - 6:10:27 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by banjoken

One thing I notice with the old Nationals as compared to the newer ones, besides that they do sound better, is the sound they make when dropped onto a hard surface from about 10 inches. The old ones have a nicer ring. I have a bunch of Dunlops that I bought back in the '70's and '80's.


Higher lead content, most likley.

Oct 14, 2026 - 6:13:50 PM

chuckv97

Canada

80550 posts since 10/5/2013

I’m no metallurgist , but i would think stainless steel rings more than lead ingredients.

Oct 14, 2026 - 7:35:12 PM

Dean T

USA

4503 posts since 4/18/2024

I just got a set of stainless steel Propiks, and they do sound good. I’m still dialing them in, and it’s too soon to say they are better than my standard Propiks. But they are easily as bright. I like the Propiks better than the dunlops, to the point I gave my old dunlops away to a student.

Oct 14, 2026 - 7:58:40 PM

38 posts since 6/29/2016

Interesting. Maybe I need to futz with the propiks more. I have a ton from a music store going out of business. I really like the brass #3, but these dunlops are magic somehow.

When you’re dialing them in, how much angle of attack do you make on the spoon/ striking surface?

Oct 15, 2026 - 8:37:22 AM

Dean T

USA

4503 posts since 4/18/2024

quote:
Originally posted by krfoss

Interesting. Maybe I need to futz with the propiks more. I have a ton from a music store going out of business. I really like the brass #3, but these dunlops are magic somehow.

When you’re dialing them in, how much angle of attack do you make on the spoon/ striking surface?


Here's a photo. 


Oct 15, 2026 - 12:48:32 PM

chuckv97

Canada

80550 posts since 10/5/2013

Ive used National NP2’s for years. I tried Hoffmeyers, but their blades are too narrow for my liking,, Dunlops don’s go up my fingers far enough, they fell wobbly whhen i hit the strings. Propiks feel weird but maybe after a while I’d get used to them.

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