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Aug 21, 2026 - 6:43:41 AM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

My neighbor is looking to sell his banjo because of health reasons and doesn't play any more. He has had this banjo since I have known him which has been 30 years. He doesn't know the age of it. Bowtie flathead Mastertone with a one piece flange. The "serial" number is 39549 but maybe 139549 but the 1 might just be a scratch. The number is on the back of the peghead. I've included pics. Any help with identifying this banjo or worth will be appreciated. Pictures are in my members page under Eds Banjo folder, hope the link will work.

https://www.banjohangout.org/my/JHook

Aug 21, 2026 - 6:57:30 AM

6964 posts since 5/29/2011

139544 and 139545 were made in 1963 according to Banjophiles. This one is most likely from the same batch.

Aug 21, 2026 - 6:58:30 AM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

Also, there is no Mastertone sticker/label on the inside of the rim.

Aug 21, 2026 - 7:05:29 AM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

Thanks Colloden, that really helps! Ed thought it was from the late 40's. Do you have any idea of a ballpark worth?

Aug 21, 2026 - 9:50:43 AM
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3111 posts since 1/4/2009

i agree, 1963 RB-250. These sell for $3000, plus or minus $500. They didnt always have a mastertone decal in that era either, but also they had a thin rim and people replaced them. I dont think a replacement rim or a missing original stick would effect value too much. 

Edited by - kyleb on 08/21/2026 09:52:22

Aug 21, 2026 - 11:12:30 AM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

Thanks Kyle, I will let my neighbor Ed know, he will be happy to know that it is worth something. I really do appreciate the help and info that we can get here.

Aug 21, 2026 - 5:14:30 PM

3635 posts since 4/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by JHook

Thanks Colloden, that really helps! Ed thought it was from the late 40's. Do you have any idea of a ballpark worth?


Gibson reintroduced the flathead in 1958 (it was listed in the '57 catalog) with the style 250. So if it's an original flathead, it couldn't be from the 40s. 

Aug 22, 2026 - 5:41:59 AM

Brett

USA

2813 posts since 11/29/2005

The fatter brown rim banjos will bring more than thinner rim with inner tone ring skirt floating in air with no bearing ledge. First thing I’d do is remove resonator thumbscrews and see if tone ring inner ledge is seated or hanging out beyond the wooden rim into thin air.

Aug 22, 2026 - 6:18:11 PM

16695 posts since 10/30/2008

"Thin rim" is 7/16" thick at the bottom. Hangover of inner bottom of tone ring is obvious to Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder. This rim is usually stained/painted dead black.

"Regular rim" is 9/16" thick at bottom. Inner bottom of tone ring is flush/smooth to inner face of rim.  Stained a pleasant dark brown but you can still see the wood grain.

"Thin rim" made its appearance in 1964-65. 1963 would have brown regular rim.

The "thin rim" was another piece of genius by Gibson cutting costs. They looked for alternative rim benders and ask for a bid from their AMPLIFIER suppliers (amps used bent wood bodies). Their amp supplier said "Sure! But our wood bending equipment can only bend 7/16" not 9/16"." Gibson blithely said "Sure! You got the job!"

Edited by - The Old Timer on 08/22/2026 18:20:36

Aug 22, 2026 - 6:58:57 PM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

Sorry for the delayed response, got busy today. You guys are all great as usual! The rim is 9/16 and dark brown and the ring is not hanging over the rim, very slightly set inside the rim, but I can feel it. With the factory number of 1395-49 it looks to be an original 1963 RB 250.

Aug 23, 2026 - 5:16:23 AM

5823 posts since 11/20/2004

I have read that 1963 was the transition year from 3 ply to thinner rims and both were built that year. It sounds that you have the better rim.

Aug 23, 2026 - 8:42:21 AM
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16695 posts since 10/30/2008

If that banjo is in good clean shape you might find a buyer at $4000. Those banjos are not as plentiful as 4 hole arch tops and thin rim flatheads. They are "prized".

Aug 23, 2026 - 4:50:07 PM
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JHook

USA

187 posts since 7/17/2011

Thanks Dick and Bobby, I will let him know that. I'm sure he will be happy to hear that it is the more desirable ones from that year and more valuable. I cleaned it up and put on new strings and it sounds great!

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