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Aug 13, 2026 - 1:07:09 PM
16266 posts since 1/15/2005

OK ..... here goes. About 6 years ago we had the plumbing in the ceiling of our basement re-done with Pex pipe after a couple of leaks in the original copper piping. Since our 50 gallon water heater had about run its useful course, we put in a new State commercial grade water heater. In the past few months the water heater decides on its own when it will and will not work. The red reset switch on the top thermostat has to be pushed, every day or two, or every other week, or once a month ....... no particular pattern. I had to reset it this morning for the first time in several weeks. You never know, I may have t reset it in the next day or two.

About 3 weeks ago, I cut off the power, drained the tank (a bunch of the anode rod crystals came out). When the tank was drained I checked the continuity of the heating elements and both checked out. I was going to check and change, if necessary, the anode rod, but I could not get it to turn, even using a 2' extension on a 1/2" drive ratchet. I guess I'll need an impact wrench.

A couple of weeks before, my electrician checked out all of the connections and the thermostats and said he could not find anything wrong. Apparently, the water heater is the only thing on the circuit, so it is not another compliance for item triggering it. Anyone have any ideas?

Aug 13, 2026 - 3:23:42 PM
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J e f f

USA

3898 posts since 12/16/2009

Since it's intermittent, maybe the electrician checked it when it was working fine. Could still be a bad thermostat. I'm not a water heater expert, but I have worked on many intermittent electronics/computer problems before. Im working on one right now at work.

Aug 13, 2026 - 4:01:14 PM

DRL777

USA

479 posts since 12/12/2021

Drain tank, clean rust from heating element (R&R) and see how it goes. If it's not setting the breaker because of that, you likely have a faulty breaker. ...and keep a spare heating element for swap if you're in a high mineral area.

Aug 13, 2026 - 5:00:35 PM

1382 posts since 10/31/2007

I would suspect the thermostats. The red button is a high limit. That could be the issue or the "regular" thermostats might be failing and are overheating and tripping the high limit. They are not really high quality. They are, however, simple to replace.

Aug 13, 2026 - 5:29:57 PM

45541 posts since 3/5/2008

Can't fix what ain't broke..

Intermittent issues are a real pain sometimes.

Aug 13, 2026 - 10:23:15 PM
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rvrose

USA

1162 posts since 6/29/2007

It's likely the mechanism and electronics in the reset part of the thermostat. You could wait until it fails completely or just replace it.

Aug 14, 2026 - 5:50:33 AM

Buddur

USA

4447 posts since 10/23/2004

Good luck with the anode rod as they seem to be universally tight. I installed a new water heater tank last year and wished I would have loosened then tightened the anode to make its replacement much easier.

Aug 14, 2026 - 6:07:02 AM

16266 posts since 1/15/2005

I think Tom and Rick (and Jeff) are right on the money. I think I will just replace the top thermostat that has the reset button. They are not very expensive and easy to replace, so even if that is not the problem I will not have spent a lot of money. My electrician checked out the breaker and it is fine.

Thanks all that replied! I'll let you know the results!

Aug 14, 2026 - 7:01:35 AM
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rinemb

USA

17923 posts since 5/24/2005

Let us know your results. Good Luck. Brad

Aug 14, 2026 - 8:26:36 AM

3805 posts since 4/19/2008

My past experience with this was corroded heating elements, which can only be decipher by removing and taking a look physically

Aug 14, 2026 - 9:17:59 AM
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16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

My past experience with this was corroded heating elements, which can only be decipher by removing and taking a look physically


Rick ..... my electrician suggested that the only way to get a good reading for continuity is to drain the tank ...... which I did and they checked out fine.  I did not take them out.  Since the unit is barely six years old, and our water is extremely good here in upstate SC, I think the elements are probably ok.  If the thermostat doesn't solve it, I will drain it again and remove them.  The darn water heaters are really pretty simple, so I should be able to fix whatever is wrong ...... if I can figure it out ..... the hard part.

Aug 14, 2026 - 10:06:04 AM
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3805 posts since 4/19/2008

FYI, make sure you’re thermostat is hard pressed against the side of the tank or it won’t read the correct temperature and throw things out of whack also

Aug 14, 2026 - 2:42:35 PM

16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

FYI, make sure you’re thermostat is hard pressed against the side of the tank or it won’t read the correct temperature and throw things out of whack also


Something like that could be the problem.  I originall had the temp set up for about 140 and my electrician suggested that I turn it back down to 125, which I did.  Then I noticed one day last week that the water temp was much higher than 125 and wondered what was going on.

Aug 15, 2026 - 12:19:22 PM

9657 posts since 9/5/2006

sounds like thermostat to me also..... not too bad to replace (most of the time).

Aug 15, 2026 - 2:45:47 PM

2767 posts since 1/16/2010

Trash that hunk of junk and go with a wood fired water heater.

Aug 16, 2026 - 9:29:20 AM
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16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Texican65

Trash that hunk of junk and go with a wood fired water heater.


I'm with you Dow, but the Misses vetoed that idea immediately!smiley

Aug 17, 2026 - 8:30:44 AM

2767 posts since 1/16/2010

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by Texican65

Trash that hunk of junk and go with a wood fired water heater.


I'm with you Dow, but the Misses vetoed that idea immediately!smiley


Ha! Figures.

I tell mine that when I retire...in 17 years, if I can live that long...I want a small hand built cabin...by me...like Dick Proenneke's in Alaska....and I don't want any power, no running water, no plumbing. 
 

She says, "That's fine...go ahead...but I won't be coming with you." 

What's wrong with them? 

Aug 17, 2026 - 8:37:58 AM
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16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Texican65
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by Texican65

Trash that hunk of junk and go with a wood fired water heater.


I'm with you Dow, but the Misses vetoed that idea immediately!smiley


Ha! Figures.

I tell mine that when I retire...in 17 years, if I can live that long...I want a small hand built cabin...by me...like Dick Proenneke's in Alaska....and I don't want any power, no running water, no plumbing. 
 

She says, "That's fine...go ahead...but I won't be coming with you." 

What's wrong with them? 


They's wimmen ...... that's what!

Aug 17, 2026 - 8:59:55 AM
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Owen

Canada

19739 posts since 6/5/2011

Dow, from the Unsolicited Advice Dept.:  Do it while you're able.   [Not complainin', but I never did "get around to" a long-distance kayak trip that bounced around in my noggin m-a-n-y  years ago.]

I/we used to go camping .... real camping ... tent, sleeping bag on the ground, machete that served as a hammer/ax/can opener/etc.  Somewhere along the line the ground got too hard .... nowadays it's strictly top tier* for us .... a '75 SurfSide.  It's pretty basic, even though I sometimes call it glamping  .... and having "shore power" sure is nice!!

* so long as nobody cares about the +/-1/2 million dollar units a lot of other people apparently prefer.    A few years back we were already set up when a $$$$$ RV pulled in and stopped in front of our site while the guy got out to peruse the open sites.  As we exchanged pleasantries I observed that we pretty much had the two extremes sitting right there.   The guy's first job upon parking it was to get out and clean (?) bugs from the grill, mirrors, etc.**  We could see a TV set rotate down from the ceiling and somebody [his wife?] watching it ... we left mid-morning the next day and she still hadn't ventured out of the unit.

** What's wrong with him?!?!??  sad

Edited by - Owen on 08/17/2026 09:10:56

Aug 18, 2026 - 3:16:53 PM

82392 posts since 5/9/2007

I love my 1985 E.L.M Aquastar on-demand water heater.
I'll replace it if it ever needs it.

Aug 18, 2026 - 5:20:37 PM

16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I love my 1985 E.L.M Aquastar on-demand water heater.
I'll replace it if it ever needs it.


I may be mistaken but think on-demand water heaters are required to be mounted in an outside wall.  We didn't have an outside wall where it would have worked without a lot of modification and pipe rerouting.

Aug 19, 2026 - 5:39:05 AM

82392 posts since 5/9/2007

Mine has been inside (in the bathroom) since new and my friend's have theirs inside.
I've never seen one on an outside wall.
My propane delivery company hooked it up (along with my Rinnai heater) to their standards.

Aug 19, 2026 - 6:07:14 AM

Owen

Canada

19739 posts since 6/5/2011

I'm guessing you're referring to gas-fired ones.   My [limited] understanding is that locating them next to an outside wall is for ease of venting rather than the building code.

Aug 19, 2026 - 8:01:06 AM
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rinemb

USA

17923 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

I'm guessing you're referring to gas-fired ones.   My [limited] understanding is that locating them next to an outside wall is for ease of venting rather than the building code.


Conveniently, our hot water heater is vented through a basement flue hole that once vented the monster coal fired gravity furnace, in the middle of the room.  Brad

Aug 19, 2026 - 8:40:57 AM

16266 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

I'm guessing you're referring to gas-fired ones.   My [limited] understanding is that locating them next to an outside wall is for ease of venting rather than the building code.


I think that is correct Owen.  When I was referring to an "outside wall" I was referring placing it on the Inside of the outside wall ...... not placing on the outside portion of the wall.  In other words not placing it on an interior wall that is not an exterior wall.  I think that is because it has to be vented.  Now, I think it is OK to place them on any wall as long as they can be vented.

Aug 19, 2026 - 9:57:06 AM
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rinemb

USA

17923 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by Owen

I'm guessing you're referring to gas-fired ones.   My [limited] understanding is that locating them next to an outside wall is for ease of venting rather than the building code.


I think that is correct Owen.  When I was referring to an "outside wall" I was referring placing it on the Inside of the outside wall ...... not placing on the outside portion of the wall.  In other words not placing it on an interior wall that is not an exterior wall.  I think that is because it has to be vented.  Now, I think it is OK to place them on any wall as long as they can be vented.



 

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