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Most clawhammer players I see do not use a thumb pick. Sometimes I feel like it's harder to get the rhythm down because you don't get the "bounce back" after the thumb drop as much.
Are there many clawhammer players out there that use a thumb pick and I'm just not aware of it?
To provide a little context, I started learning to play Irish jigs and reels recently, and in doing so I've been doing more upstruming after my thumb drops. I downstroke with middle finger, thumb drop, upstream with pointer finger (using the upward momentum of the thumb drop, ideally). I've been playing exclusively melody, not doing any strumming of the chords. I figured I'd start trying to use a thumb piece because I'm just playing melody, but I'm feeling like I'm losing some natural clawhammer rhythm I have developed in the process.
The closest I have seen is folks using Fake nails from Ozark banjos
never the thumb though. Feel like it would get in the way any time you arent using the 5th string
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Originally posted by Bill RogersIn the 65 or so years I’ve played, I’ve never seen anyone use a thumbpick for clawhammer. Never occurred to me to even try it.
Roscoe Holcomb did use a thumbpick for clawhammer. You can see it in this video; it starts at 4:45 – the first song is up-picking (Little Birdie), but the clawhammer with thumbpick (Hook and Line) starts at 4:45.
I have a friend that uses a thumb pick. That said I'd never try to play clawhammer very much for Irish music with its usual 8 notes per measure, its speed, and changing keys for medleys. For me, I'd end up playing not very good clawhammer or Irish music. Irish songs work great with the banjo which I enjoyed a lot. But, best to you! banjered
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Originally posted by banjeredI have a friend that uses a thumb pick. That said I'd never try to play clawhammer very much for Irish music with its usual 8 notes per measure, its speed, and changing keys for medleys. For me, I'd end up playing not very good clawhammer or Irish music. Irish songs work great with the banjo which I enjoyed a lot. But, best to you! banjered
What kind of banjo do you play? a tenor banjo with a pick?
I mean, I'd like to think that I'm doing enough upstrumming that it's not really "clawhammer".
Culloden
Mark:
I met Art Chambers around 1969 or '70 at the Southern California Old-Time Fiddlers Association that met on Signal Hill in Long Beach. Mel Durham, Earl Collins, Ab Goebel, Roscoe and Ossdie White, and occasionally Ed Lowe (Round Peak Charlie Lowe's nephew) would show up. Also a college-aged Tom Sauber.
Art was from Georgia and, as above, used a plastic thumbpick worn as usual, and two plastic fingerpicks, one worn normally with the blade against the fleshy part of his index finger, and the other reversed so that the blade was against the nail of his middle finger.
He called his style "drop-thumb frailing". It was a sort of combination of two-finger and frailing. He used his thumb and index to play two-finger patterns (can't remember now if thumb or index lead, or both- I was 12 or 13 at the time). He used his middle finger for brushing with the thumb kicking off on the 5th string as in the usual "bum-ditty" rhythm.
The fiddler's club was very strict about allowing nothing but fiddle music ( they has some sort of official status with the state of California as their purpose was the preservation of Old-Time fiddle music). The fiddlers would each take turns playing three tunes. There was only one microphone, and that was for the fiddler. Even so, the fiddler was free to choose his own back-up which was usually a guitar(s) and occasionally the piano. Banjoes were not plentiful. Art was just about the only banjo player that was ever invited to provide back-up.
All that aside, there was lots of open jamming outside. It was a really great place to learn and hear music from some great musicians most of whom had immigrated to California from the South and Midwest. Each meeting would begin and end with all of the fiddlers playing "Liberty" together rotating up to the mike.
Hard to believe that was half a century ago!!!
Edited by - R.D. Lunceford on 08/12/2026 14:34:01
I'm sure they are out there, but I haven't seen anyone using a thumb pick. I'm just picking up clawhammer and I actually tried a thumb pick, being I'm used to playing with finger picks and a thumb pick, but one of the things that I like about clawhammer is that it doesn't require a lot of accoutrements, so I'm just going to stick with the basic fingers.
Edited by - BG Banjo on 08/13/2026 13:38:53
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